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Titan posted:I want more info on what Constantine is doing in Hell. Limbo would have been funnier.
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Darkh also had the worst stunt double. It was painfully obvious when he was throwing punches
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Feb 26, 2016 06:32
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Constantine has been in hell before and he will be there again.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:33
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Just watched this week's episode. Did the stunt coordinator just not show up or something? Atrocious action scenes. Damien Dahrk just Vader'ed really hard and when he did throw a punch you could clearly see the stunt double multiple times. Also some hilarious bits with the rest of the cast, with me spotting one soldier being touched by Thea and immediately went flying.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:35
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Lets be honest now. If any one of us could use magic to choke and throw people and things around, would you ever really bother learning how to properly fight? I wouldn't.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:49
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Titan posted:Lets be honest now. If any one of us could use magic to choke and throw people and things around, would you ever really bother learning how to properly fight? I wouldn't. If I had the power to make people stand still for a bit using my hand, I would shoot them with a gun in my other hand. As far as we can tell his power are almost harmless against good guys but instantly kill his allies.
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Feb 26, 2016 07:04
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Maybe if they rushed Darkh from the beginning with more than two people at once they could've won a long time ago. The guy only has two hands.
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Feb 26, 2016 11:10
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Krad posted:Maybe if they rushed Darkh from the beginning with more than two people at once they could've won a long time ago. The guy only has two hands. The truly sad thing is they were given this blueprint by that S1 or S2 villain whose (largely successful) strategy was to have more goons on hand than Ollie had arrows.
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Feb 26, 2016 11:20
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Chokes McGee posted:Laurel has been undergoing a steady development character arc for four goddamn seasons without backsliding which is more than twice over I can say for Felicity. The problem with Felicity is the same problem with every female character in this show after they start dating or having some sort of relation with Oliver. Their entire character is now written entirely around the CW relationship drama and they cease to exist otherwise. Felicity was a somewhat dorky and fun character before she fell for Oliver on-screen. Similarly, Laurel pretty much existed only as a dramatic drunk when she hated/cared romantically for Oliver, to the point that even the actress pointed out her character was taken to a bad direction and was being poorly used. After she became the Canary and it was Felicity's turn, that went away. I live in a country where people love both to produce and import a lot of soap operas and I think Arrow is pretty much the closest I've seen to a soap opera from these modern TV shows, and while CW shows try hard on that department, Arrow really shines. Everything happens for one reason - to produce short term drama. The characters are incredibly dumb and take decisions that are obviously wrong because it'll produce drama for the next 1 to 3 episodes and that's the reason behind almost every decision they take, especially Oliver. The others take turns between being level-headed and melodramatic, but every Oliver's decision exists to cause drama, regardless of whether the decision is right, wrong, smart or dumb. If he's doing the right thing he'll be misunderstood, if he's doing the wrong thing he'll torture himself. This cycles between every character - he'll do something right or wrong that will upset them, they will severely overblow it, they'll make peace after they learn the importance of trust and they'll now be supportive to Oliver while he deals with the next character he did just upset. And the problem with every romantic interest is that they're trapped in this CW melodrama hell forever until either of them break up. I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but I think the romantic interests that had real good chemistry with Oliver on-screen were Sara and that crazy assassin girl who wanted to kill her father, and he pretty much caused drama with both of them because they were assassins and the timing of their relationships was conveniently when Oliver decided that his frag count in the hundreds was good enough to call quits and he should now lecture people instead. I mean, what if he had met either of them as soon as he got back from the island? What if instead of killing Ras Al Ghul he had used his "poo poo I have to kill someone" card on Malcolm? What if he had disbanded the League of Assassins when he explicitly knew he could? What if he had never given the ring to Malcolm, one of the worst decisions imaginable? What if he had called the Flash almost every episode? He could just speed-blitz and steal the Idol away. Somehow in a show with metahumans, magic and spirits the true enemy of suspension of disbelief is basic logic and relationship drama. It's better just to shut your brain down and enjoy the show for the absurd it provides. Bottom line is, somehow we take great joy at watching these dumb characters doing dumb things. And they'll never stop. They won't stop. Elentor fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Feb 26, 2016 11:34
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Having said that, I was honestly impressed by the writing for Laurel in this episode. She understands that Oliver had been in the wrong and doesn't blame Samantha, in fact she's extremely compassionate to her throughout and makes an effort to comfort her. She doesn't get angry at Oliver because the guy suffered enough for his mistakes and has changed but she does still feel betrayed and hugs it out in an emotionally healthy way. She acted like a mature, reasonable adult and completely avoided the CW drama bullshit that they so easily could have leaped at. Everyone but Felicity reacted well to the situation, to their credit. Personally I thought this was a good episode in terms of the main cast with one frustrating exception.
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Feb 26, 2016 11:59
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Even Damien Darhk handled William more rationally than Felicity. Maybe Felicity will peace out for a few episodes and we can get more Speedy and Canary being the best team. Thea's shot from the motorcycle was definitely the best part of an action-weak episode. I wasn't paying close enough attention to the few times Diggle showed up in uniform. Did he gave the improved Spartan helmet?
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Feb 26, 2016 13:57
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I'm pretty sure that at one point when Speedy and Canary were fighting henchmen in the hallway, a goon slammed his head sideways into a vase on a table, smashing it and knocking himself unconscious, without being touched. And I don't mean like "oh Thea swung but you could see it didn't connect." I mean "there wasn't even a motion from the person he was fighting and he still went sideways."
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Feb 26, 2016 14:45
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It was also either this episode or last episode where Thea did some halfhearted wallpunch that seemed almost counterproductive but knocked a guy twice her size across the room. They could stand to step it up a bit.
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Feb 26, 2016 16:10
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Thea is the true Ra's Al Ghul. Wasn't feeling this episode either, for the same reasons explained thoroughly throughout the thread. I suppose they're reopening Laurel and Oliver's relationship, based on her reaction to Samantha. Probably not going to be handled well, because CW. void_serfer fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Feb 26, 2016 16:16
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Titan posted:I want more info on what Constantine is doing in Hell. Well Lucifer left hell so might be filling in.
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Feb 26, 2016 16:36
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Narcissus1916 posted:Just watched this week's episode. This got me interested, and I looked up the crew on IMDB. Looks like Bamford wasn't even a part of this episode, and yeah, by God it shows. Every fight scene looked piss poor, unfortunately. I'm not sure exactly why you wouldn't have your head stunt choreographer on every episode unless he has some sort of obligation that he can't make it the week they're shooting. It's definitely noticeable when he's gone. ShakeZula posted:The truly sad thing is they were given this blueprint by that S1 or S2 villain whose (largely successful) strategy was to have more goons on hand than Ollie had arrows. That guy was the coolest. I don't remember what his name was, but I remember the actor well and thought he was a really well done villain. I think he got killed so we'll never see him again, but I remember when I was watching that his "more goons than arrows" gimmick was actually pretty smart. I mean, Ollie could have just fought some with his bow, but back then I don't think he did that as much.
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The good news is the actor (David Anders) has a role as a main antagonist in the excellent TV show iZombie.
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He'll never top the OG Count Vertigo though. No one will. 
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Krad posted:He'll never top the OG Count Vertigo though. He should've been the Joker to Ollie's Batman. Anarky might fill that role instead.
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Feb 26, 2016 21:32
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So what was the point of Dharhk being able to cure Thea's bloodlust?
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Feb 27, 2016 01:49
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nooneofconsequence posted:So what was the point of Dharhk being able to cure Thea's bloodlust? Based on what that other poster said, I'm gonna say: short-term drama.
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Feb 27, 2016 02:33
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nooneofconsequence posted:So what was the point of Dharhk being able to cure Thea's bloodlust? what's the point of anything, when you really think about it
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Feb 27, 2016 04:25
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nooneofconsequence posted:So what was the point of Dharhk being able to cure Thea's bloodlust? I think the writers forgot about that. I'm ready for Felicity to go away and Ollie to shack up with Laurel.
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Rhyno posted:I'm ready for Felicity to go away and Ollie to shack up with Laurel. Well then I hope you're all prepared for 6 eps-½ season's worth of hand wringing and kvetching about omg why we can't be together when really we can but we can't cause omg AGAIN
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Feb 27, 2016 05:34
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Oliver and the Canary Sarah made the best couple. It was a remarkably drama-free relationship.
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Feb 27, 2016 05:50
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nooneofconsequence posted:So what was the point of Dharhk being able to cure Thea's bloodlust? To give Thea hope about being able to avoid killing people. I mean realistically even if they had the ability to confine Dharhk indefinitely it wouldn't really work that well.
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Feb 27, 2016 05:58
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enraged_camel posted:
He also laughed last year about the guy heaving a mop around as an improvised weapon during the big street brawl against Brick. (The mop was Laurel.) I keep accidentally watching every other episode because of busy schedules. Nobody here notices.
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Feb 27, 2016 06:23
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I don't know if this theory has been brought up yet, but it's something that's been on my mind since I saw people guessing that it was Felicity's mom in the coffin. So many posts are about guessing who is in the coffin, but I think the real swerve is going to be who Oliver means when he says "I'm going to have to kill him" since right now I get the impression most people assume it's Damian Darhk. I'm thinking that this scene is going to go down after Damian is already taken care of, and that Felicity's father either deliberately or indirectly kills her mother by...hacking the internet or something. It really would be the most drama CW could wring out of that relationship to have Ollie want murderous revenge on one of her parents for killing the other one. I mostly just think bringing her dad in seemed really out of place to begin with. The amount of emphasis oh how "He's so evil and bad things happen when he comes around" from the mom during that episode it has to be setting up something.
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Feb 27, 2016 06:56
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Blotto Battalion posted:I don't know if this theory has been brought up yet, but it's something that's been on my mind since I saw people guessing that it was Felicity's mom in the coffin. So many posts are about guessing who is in the coffin, but I think the real swerve is going to be who Oliver means when he says "I'm going to have to kill him" since right now I get the impression most people assume it's Damian Darhk. I'm thinking that this scene is going to go down after Damian is already taken care of, and that Felicity's father either deliberately or indirectly kills her mother by...hacking the internet or something. I don't think it's anyone close to Felicity because why would she wait in the car while Oliver visited the grave?
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Feb 27, 2016 07:00
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Could be anyone in there really. My point is more that I think Oliver is going to have her father on the murder-list.
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Feb 27, 2016 07:09
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enraged_camel posted:I don't think it's anyone close to Felicity because why would she wait in the car while Oliver visited the grave? She could have gone back while he stayed.
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We've still got a bunch of episodes to go in the season, so either Darhk has to escape, and find another way to get magic powers (since he doesn't appear to be any particular threat without them) or we're headed for a big reveal that he wasn't actually the big bad for the season like we thought he was - kinda like season 2 where we thought Blood was going to be the big bad, but then Slade was revealed - around this time of the season too IIRC. They may even be aiming to redeem Damien and turn him into the new Malcolm style frenemy.
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enraged_camel posted:I don't think it's anyone close to Felicity because why would she wait in the car while Oliver visited the grave? Why would they be sharing a car at all if they're in the midst of an emotionally-taxing breakup?
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Feb 27, 2016 09:02
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I liked Dahrk's powers when they seemed governed by some sort of logic. Last week he was just force choking people left and right for no real reason.
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Blotto Battalion posted:I don't know if this theory has been brought up yet, but it's something that's been on my mind since I saw people guessing that it was Felicity's mom in the coffin. So many posts are about guessing who is in the coffin, but I think the real swerve is going to be who Oliver means when he says "I'm going to have to kill him" since right now I get the impression most people assume it's Damian Darhk. I'm thinking that this scene is going to go down after Damian is already taken care of, and that Felicity's father either deliberately or indirectly kills her mother by...hacking the internet or something. Barry's lead in line was "Darhk?" "Yeah, I'm gonna kill him." So maybe it was Darhk in the grave, Barrowman killed him and is running Hive, and did it in a messy enough way that he FINALLY gets put down.
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The Lord Bude posted:We've still got a bunch of episodes to go in the season, so either Darhk has to escape, and find another way to get magic powers (since he doesn't appear to be any particular threat without them) or we're headed for a big reveal that he wasn't actually the big bad for the season like we thought he was - kinda like season 2 where we thought Blood was going to be the big bad, but then Slade was revealed - around this time of the season too IIRC. They may even be aiming to redeem Damien and turn him into the new Malcolm style frenemy. We do know that he's part of a larger organization and he seems to answer to them to some degree. It might be someone higher up the chain that's revealed or it may be Dahrk's wife taking a more active role.
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Narcissus1916 posted:I liked Dahrk's powers when they seemed governed by some sort of logic. Last week he was just force choking people left and right for no real reason. It's been telekinesis from his first appearance.
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Feb 27, 2016 12:44
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Xelkelvos posted:We do know that he's part of a larger organization and he seems to answer to them to some degree. It might be someone higher up the chain that's revealed or it may be Dahrk's wife taking a more active role. The twist will be that the real big bad is either the mystical dude or the woman from this season's flashbacks.
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Feb 27, 2016 14:24
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Blotto Battalion posted:Could be anyone in there really. My point is more that I think Oliver is going to have her father on the murder-list. I miss the murder list from time to time. I was all for Oliver and Felicity being a couple until they decided to make Felicity's only purpose to find ways to destroy the relationship, they took away everything that made her great. She was supposed to be a foil for Ollie and Dig, someone who advocates for normal people and can tell them both to gently caress off. Now it's some weird spineless Felicity.
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