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Folt The Bolt
Feb 21, 2012

Nothing exciting to see here. Move along.

Dizz posted:

And people like this garbage!?

Yes, because the grinding is kept to a minimum through carefully spreading the content over Legend Mode and the Adventure Maps and a return to the Lv. 99 cap.

EDIT: Also gotta say, the Trident is kind of disappointing me.

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Dunban
Jul 4, 2012

OH MY GOD GLOVER

LOCUST FART HELL posted:

linkle's second mission is some bullshit, darunia storms the enemy base to get wrecked by volga and a couple dozen lizalfos, and if he dies it's game over. you gotta storm it as quick as you can and there's practically no chance to explore and get all the keeps and keep him alive at the same time, because even if you leave just volga alone with him he goes down like a sack of potatoes, and of course defeating volga completes the mission

I dunno, I had time to get everything and finish the mission on my first try. I think all the chests are in the keeps at the top anyway, so it shouldn't take too long to take a quick trip to restore Darunia's health if you need to.

TacticalNecromancy
May 25, 2015

As a fan of both Legend of Zelda and the [Franchise] Warriors series, finding this on the 3DS has been an absolute blast. Just got to Linkle's first mission and thus far it feels right, both as a Warriors game and as a Zelda game. I'm not exactly expecting it to change the world, but it's solid and entertaining so far and I'm looking forward to seeing what odd weapons and characters pop up and whether anything's going to top crossbow gun-kata. (Yes, I'm guessing.)

Already made the mistake of punting a Cucco in the middle of a mission that was going badly. This is fine.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
I've never played a Musou game before, is there a "Hyrule Warriors (Legends) for Idiots" guide out there?

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

TacticalNecromancy posted:

Already made the mistake of punting a Cucco in the middle of a mission that was going badly. This is fine.

Cuccos are kinda bullshit because the follow you around, stay as close to you as possible, can't be hurt by enemies, and there's no way to make them leave. When a Cucco shows up it's just a matter of when, not if, you're going to smack it enough to make it mad.

YggiDee posted:

I've never played a Musou game before, is there a "Hyrule Warriors (Legends) for Idiots" guide out there?

As a Musou veteran I can give you some quick tips. First, officers are what are really important. Don't spend your time standing around smacking grunts since it won't accomplish your objectives. Find out which officers are important as far as missions and head for them. If you're not sure what your current mission is, on the pause screen there's an option called "Battle Log" that lists your current objectives and it will highlight which officers are important to the mission, whether it's a red officer you need to beat, a keep you need to take, or a blue officer you need to keep alive/escort somewhere.

Remember that you have combos that use the Strong Attack button, don't just mash Y all the time if you can help it, as most characters get more out of their Strong Attack combos (but it's personal preference, for example I hardly ever use Link's sword Strong Attacks, I just mash Y for him constantly). In general, your C2 combo (Y then X) is a juggle that launches enemies in the air, C3 (Y Y X) is usually (though in this game, not always) a multi-hit attack, and C4/C5 are almost always for clearing crowds.

You probably won't use the block button much, as dodging is faster and puts you in better position to attack the enemy. Generally the block button is used purely to center the camera behind your character. Speaking of dodging, on most enemy officers, you'll probably only be able to get in a 3 hit combo before they start blocking your attacks, so the best strategy for them is usually to hit three times, dodge around behind them, and then attack 3 more times, and keep that up, usually only stopping if they're about to expose their weak point or about to use a strong attack (like when the Moblin starts charging up to spin).

Make sure you keep an eye on your status messages, I know it's easy to miss them while you're beating up bad guys, but the two most important ones to watch for are reports that the allied base is under attack, or that your commander is under attack, because if either of those fall you lose. You will also get messages that generic officers (like the Hylian Captain) or keeps are in danger. Unless a particular generic officer/keep is marked as important (such as messengers in some missions, or ones where you are required to take specific keeps), feel free to ignore them, don't rush across the battlefield to help them because all it does is slow you down.

That should be enough to get you started, I can't think of much else basic info that's important though I'm sure others will be able to add more/correct me on some points.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



All of that is really good advice, and you can use it in any future Warriors games you try.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009
That's a really good newbie guide.

One thing to note which Twelve briefly touches on at the end of their post: Musou games love to déluge you in objectives and NPCs screaming for help, which can be quite intimidating, but don't panic. As Twelve mentioned, feel free to ignore any non-critical NPCs calling for help. Your playable characters can generally take care of themselves, but definitely have a tendency to just take way more damage than they should, so it's often beneficial to just switch to a character on low health and help them find a heart pot or kill whatever officer is causing them problems, then switch back, since most of the time, any of them dying means you lose.

As far as objectives go, you should prioritise - objectives like killing specific officers who are starting to move will draw their route on the map when they spawn in, so you can quickly see how far they are from their destination. If their destination is a keep, you can always send one of your characters to that keep to tie them up while you do other stuff by using command mode. Once they start fighting the character you sent to their destination, switch to that character, kick their asses, then switch back to your other character (don't forget to issue a move order to the character you leave behind so they don't go running off in the wrong direction).

In general, command mode is really powerful and you should be using it frequently! Playable characters can almost always take care of an objective without needing backup as long as you are actively controlling them, so you can station characters in different parts of the map so that you can instantly respond to an objective by just switching to the nearest character.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Another note for various characters: on top of the basic weapon combos, some of them have gimmicks. Whenever you get a new person check their combo list to see if they have multi-press abilities like Lana (YXXX with more unlocked later) or the Fire Rod. As for gimmicks, sometimes a new weapon will explain them but some of them can be easy to miss. Shiek, for example; each of her combos has a different element, and your C1 strong attack will change depending on the element of the last combo you did. Water makes a shield, fire a delayed-blast mine, lightning a whirling knockback aura, et cetera. She seems pretty lackluster without knowing about those, but she becomes VERY powerful if you learn how to use them (though their power/duration seems to have been nerfed in Legends).

That's stuff you can learn later, though, once you get used to the basics. Mainly be willing to play around with different combos. Every weapon seems to have one that's above-and-beyond the others in usefulness, but it's not always in the same way and people may disagree on which one it is for any given character.

Edit: oh, one more thing that's handy to know, Hyrule Warriors has two button configs that different people prefer, so you'll likely see combos like BBBY or YYYX used interchangeably. Also the standard combo notation is C1 for X, C2 for YX, C3 for YYX et cetera but some people start at C0 using the number for the number of weak attacks before a strong. If something doesn't work in-game like folks online say it should, check if it was transposed a notch.

Bruceski fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Mar 25, 2016

Ronnie
May 13, 2009

Just in case.
So I beat the story mode a few days ago and am currently trying to complete the adventure map. I heard this game has tons of content would it be a smart move to purchase the DLC packages or will the in game content suffice me enough?

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
Just downloaded the update and redeemed my Legends code on Wii U, I can confirm that the Toon Link and Wolf Link amiibo give weapons for the appropriate characters now (looks like Wolf Link is random odds between a weapon for Midna and Twili Midna)

Bleusilences
Jun 23, 2004

Be careful for what you wish for.

Do you get the code for the eshop version?

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Bleusilences posted:

Do you get the code for the eshop version?

Yeah, my receipt had codes for a 3DS theme and the Wii U character pack.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Another tip that is very useful. While you will start auto running after five seconds, you can immediately run if you hold down the dodge button.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



My physical copy didn't include a code to get stuff in the Wii U version.:smith:

Where is the new Linkle/Wind Waker stuff integrated? Is it mixed into Legends mode or what?

SeANMcBAY fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Mar 26, 2016

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

SeANMcBAY posted:

My physical copy didn't include a code to get stuff in the Wii U version.:smith: If anyone has one they aren't using that would be cool if I could have it.

Where is the new Linkle/Wind Waker stuff integrated? Is it mixed into Legends mode or what?

It's definitely supposed to include a code...exchange your copy with the retailer if you don't have one in the box.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

SeANMcBAY posted:

My physical copy didn't include a code to get stuff in the Wii U version.:smith: If anyone has one they aren't using that would be cool if I could have it.

Where is the new Linkle/Wind Waker stuff integrated? Is it mixed into Legends mode or what?

Your copy did not include an insert for the download codes for the 3DS theme and the Wii U version characters? Maybe you should call up Nintendo about that.

The new Legend Mode stuff is integrated in. The first Linkle level appears after the third level.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

SeANMcBAY posted:

My physical copy didn't include a code to get stuff in the Wii U version.:smith:

It should absolutely have one, it's in the box as a piece of paper:



If it's not in there, either someone tampered with the game before you got it or the packaging plant hosed up, so maybe the retailer or Nintendo's support can help.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Unlucky7 posted:

The new Legend Mode stuff is integrated in. The first Linkle level appears after the third level.

When do the Cia levels from Legend Mode appear, do you have to unlock her from the Adventure map first?

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Lemon-Lime posted:

It should absolutely have one, it's in the box as a piece of paper:



If it's not in there, either someone tampered with the game before you got it or the packaging plant hosed up, so maybe the retailer or Nintendo's support can help.

Yeah, I didn't get any insert. Not even the one behind your code. I'll try calling Nintendo.

SeANMcBAY fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Mar 26, 2016

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Twelve by Pies posted:

When do the Cia levels from Legend Mode appear, do you have to unlock her from the Adventure map first?

I do not know yet, but I think you had to clear the campaign first in the Wii U version, so that may be the case here.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

SeANMcBAY posted:

Yeah, I didn't get any insert. Not even the one behind your code. I'll try calling Nintendo.

Yeah, if the box was still shrink-wrapped when you got it, the packaging plant hosed up. If it wasn't shrink-wrapped, someone obviously stole the code and the place you bought it from is being poo poo. :(

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

I'm going to enter a void of darkness for the next 800 hours and unlock everything in this game.

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

mabels big day posted:

I'm going to enter a void of darkness for the next 800 hours and unlock everything in this game.

It is hosed up that I have other responsibilities in life because I am going to do this for both games. My life is over.

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

Did they give Volga new attacks in Legends? I don't remember that long-range three prong projectile attack of his. He keeps spamming it and it wrecks me and gently caress you Volga I didn't want A rank anyway! :argh:

A Great Big Bee!
Mar 8, 2007

Grimey Drawer
boy, that volga! what a dick

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

LOCUST FART HELL posted:

boy, that volga! what a dick

Let's go kick his rear end.

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

LOCUST FART HELL posted:

boy, that volga! what a dick

He's a real piece of poo poo.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Lemon-Lime posted:

Yeah, if the box was still shrink-wrapped when you got it, the packaging plant hosed up. If it wasn't shrink-wrapped, someone obviously stole the code and the place you bought it from is being poo poo. :(

It was shrink wrapped. Nintendo wouldn't help me either.:smith:

I think I'm just going to try to do the new content in this game since the thought of unlocking and leveling up everything again makes me sick. Please tell me the Wind Waker adventure map is easy to unlock.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Silver Falcon posted:

Did they give Volga new attacks in Legends? I don't remember that long-range three prong projectile attack of his. He keeps spamming it and it wrecks me and gently caress you Volga I didn't want A rank anyway! :argh:

Pretty sure that three prong projectile attack is his C3. I used to use it a fair bit when I played as him.

Volga actually seems easier in Legends to me, that move where he jumps at you in like half a second doesn't seem to have a shockwave on it anymore so it doesn't hurt and make him a pain like in the Wii U version.

GeekTheMage
May 20, 2001
The description of the 3DS/Wii U combo DLC pack says that the Wii U content comes as a separate code. Nintendo wouldn't lock this code to the NNID account that purchased it, would they? Asking for a friend, and also myself since we own one copy each of the 3DS and Wii U versions between us.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

GeekTheMage posted:

The description of the 3DS/Wii U combo DLC pack says that the Wii U content comes as a separate code. Nintendo wouldn't lock this code to the NNID account that purchased it, would they? Asking for a friend, and also myself since we own one copy each of the 3DS and Wii U versions between us.

None of the other purchases like this (Mario tipping stars, Smash Bros DLC, etc) has been locked like that.

Unless they do something radically different this time around, you'll be able to give away the spare codes with no problem.

SeANMcBAY posted:

It was shrink wrapped. Nintendo wouldn't help me either.:smith:

Exchange your copy at wherever you bought it from.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Man this version is so fun. The graphic hit is oddly more noticeable in the menus then anything, but man the gameplay is so drat fun I don't care. I just love the hot swapping and owl statues in maps, since between those and directing people to points making taking keeps and grabbing skullatas so much more reasonable now.

GeekTheMage
May 20, 2001

jivjov posted:

None of the other purchases like this (Mario tipping stars, Smash Bros DLC, etc) has been locked like that.

Unless they do something radically different this time around, you'll be able to give away the spare codes with no problem.

It worked exactly as you said. Now I'm imagining some sort of ridiculous Hyrule Warriors DLC black market springing up since the Wii U DLC isn't sold by itself yet.

Doctor Hospital
Jul 16, 2011

what





Jesus Christ Linkle is ridiculous :stare:

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I did like "Grandma told me I was actually the legendary hero!" "Everybody's grandma says that." It's a nice nod to how ingrained the Zelda Cycle has become.

A Great Big Bee!
Mar 8, 2007

Grimey Drawer
linkle is a lot of fun and i like that they based a moveset around bomb arrows. she's very good at taking out clustered enemies as a combo will fill her rapid fire gauge, rapid firing will fill her special gauge, then using special will finish off the higher level enemies caught in your fire, which adds to your rapid fire gauge. it's a good positive feedback loop

i'm just starting to play with toon link, i love that he keeps his roll for his dodge. he has a great air game with the deku leaf, midair he can combo with y and do a big ground pound with x. his basic strong attack is a leap to set that up and a lot of his strong combo finishers launch him and his enemies. also having aryll as his partner who speaks for him is extremely cute and good. he has a fair amount of cooldown on his bigger attacks though (his special especially)

Bruceski posted:

I did like "Grandma told me I was actually the legendary hero!" "Everybody's grandma says that." It's a nice nod to how ingrained the Zelda Cycle has become.

yeah it adds a nice little bit of flavour to the setting

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
Linkle is basically Max Payne. She owns.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Friends, I still don't have Hyrule Warrior legends because i preordered online and it's not due to arrived until next week for some reason

instead I'm playing my new hyrule warriors special edition 3ds xl and playing a link between worlds for the first time instead.

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

i know this has been asked and answered before, but are the DLC maps in Legends? the majoras mask map, the twilight princess map, etc. and, if they're not, are the costumes/8-bit weapons you get in those maps still available through other means?

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Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

mabels big day posted:

i know this has been asked and answered before, but are the DLC maps in Legends? the majoras mask map, the twilight princess map, etc. and, if they're not, are the costumes/8-bit weapons you get in those maps still available through other means?

Yes. When you beat the boss of one map, you unlock the next in line.

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