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Do you guys have any suggestions for finding recruiters who might help with an upcoming job search? I want to get into Python/Django development but I'm not all that eager to enter my resume a dozen different ways for just as many application systems. I'm hoping that getting a real human involved this time around will help streamline the search process. Edit: Oh hey, apparently Cybercoders is a lovely company, go me 
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IAmKale posted:Do you guys have any suggestions for finding recruiters who might help with an upcoming job search? I want to get into Python/Django development but I'm not all that eager to enter my resume a dozen different ways for just as many application systems. I'm hoping that getting a real human involved this time around will help streamline the search process. I don't think recruiters are that good for entry level people - if it's not your first programming job, a recruiter is a fast way of getting another job, but if you don't have something lined up and you already graduated, you should either intern or work as a contractor.
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Mar 24, 2016 03:33
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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:I don't think recruiters are that good for entry level people - if it's not your first programming job, a recruiter is a fast way of getting another job, but if you don't have something lined up and you already graduated, you should either intern or work as a contractor.
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Mar 24, 2016 03:51
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Okay so this hypothetical contract position has morphed into a hypothetical consultant position. Any consultants want to let me know roughly what that entails?
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Mar 24, 2016 20:06
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Ten times as much money and more of an expectation that you're an expert at something (that something may be "convincing people to give you money").
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Mar 24, 2016 20:59
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Bongo Bill posted:Backend developers are paid more than full-stack ones. Reminds me of. btw, thank you for introducing me to PHP CEO. https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/711895081490518016 
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Mar 24, 2016 21:01
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ChickenWing posted:Okay so this hypothetical contract position has morphed into a hypothetical consultant position. Any consultants want to let me know roughly what that entails? As in working for an agency?
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Mar 24, 2016 22:07
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Munkeymon posted:As in working for an agency? Yes
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Mar 25, 2016 00:06
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It sounds to me like your W-2 position has turned into a 1099 instead, with increased tax liability for you. Was it W-2 or 1099 before?
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Mar 25, 2016 01:18
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Plorkyeran posted:Ten times as much money and more of an expectation that you're an expert at something (that something may be "convincing people to give you money"). And they can make you go away in a heartbeat, so make sure you charge accordingly.
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Mar 25, 2016 01:24
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Vulture Culture posted:It sounds to me like your W-2 position has turned into a 1099 instead, with increased tax liability for you. Was it W-2 or 1099 before? Not necessarily. I'm a consultant employed full time by one company and working at a different company, as in I show up at the client and put in eight hour days that my company bills the client for. If I'm not billing hours I'm supposed to show up at the home office and work on something relevant to my professional education, which can be getting paid to tinker with personal projects if you want it to be. I'm pretty happy with the arrangement so far because I can change jobs often without the stupid bullshit involved in actually changing jobs in America or the resume stains and that's been great for networking so far. I'm sure all of this varies by agency but I don't have to travel and I get paid for overtime if the client is even willing to allow overtime - so far they haven't and I'm enjoying my actual 40 hour weeks. The downsides are that I feel like a temp in that I have a hard time caring a lot about stuff like culture, socializing and team building and generally am not treated quite as well as the FTEs as far as office furniture and equipment, but some places are penny wise pound foolish like that.
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Mar 25, 2016 04:55
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ChickenWing posted:I didn't realize that you were expected to pay for all your own devices, huh. Depends on the job. Just as often people will say you have to use their laptop and only their laptop to access their network. Put they aren't going to buy you a printer or mouse or anything.
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Mar 29, 2016 02:25
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Munkeymon posted:Not necessarily. I'm a consultant employed full time by one company and working at a different company, as in I show up at the client and put in eight hour days that my company bills the client for. If I'm not billing hours I'm supposed to show up at the home office and work on something relevant to my professional education, which can be getting paid to tinker with personal projects if you want it to be. I'm pretty happy with the arrangement so far because I can change jobs often without the stupid bullshit involved in actually changing jobs in America or the resume stains and that's been great for networking so far. I'm sure all of this varies by agency but I don't have to travel and I get paid for overtime if the client is even willing to allow overtime - so far they haven't and I'm enjoying my actual 40 hour weeks. The downsides are that I feel like a temp in that I have a hard time caring a lot about stuff like culture, socializing and team building and generally am not treated quite as well as the FTEs as far as office furniture and equipment, but some places are penny wise pound foolish like that.
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Mar 29, 2016 18:22
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Consultant job just called and we're setting up a meeting with some of the people I'd potentially be working with. come on  The person who called asked me for my salary and I said I'd prefer not to disclose right now. This is the correct answer, y/n? Everything I've heard makes it sound like I shouldn't ever let them know what I'm currently making so I don't get lowballed on a salary, but the caller made it sound like it was required information.
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Mar 30, 2016 17:06
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ChickenWing posted:Consultant job just called and we're setting up a meeting with some of the people I'd potentially be working with.
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Mar 30, 2016 17:51
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Vulture Culture posted:They always will, to try and pry it out of you. My stock answer is usually something like "I'd prefer any compensation discussions be based on the value I can bring to your company, not some other company." Bleh. I felt so combative when I said even that. This is going to be a difficult process, especially given that I technically haven't even graduated university yet so I'm sitting here talking a big game meanwhile my resume is flashing a big "PLEASE LOWBALL ME" sign. Luckily the glassdoor salaries look better than my current one to start with, so hopefully there won't be too much in the realm of negotiation.
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Mar 30, 2016 18:00
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IAmKale posted:Do you guys have any suggestions for finding recruiters who might help with an upcoming job search? I want to get into Python/Django development but I'm not all that eager to enter my resume a dozen different ways for just as many application systems. I'm hoping that getting a real human involved this time around will help streamline the search process. You need to sign up for a lot of different job search sites, with your resume, and a recruiter will find you eventually.
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Mar 30, 2016 18:27
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Stinky_Pete posted:You need to sign up for a lot of different job search sites, with your resume, and a recruiter will find you eventually. Simply exist on linkedin, have anything related to tech in your profile, and they will be in constant contact.
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Mar 31, 2016 11:31
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So a pile of people were laid off yesterday and one of them was celebrating her birthday. Good planning, management.
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Mar 31, 2016 15:22
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lol what's morale
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Mar 31, 2016 15:28
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CPColin posted:So a pile of people were laid off yesterday and one of them was celebrating her birthday. Good planning, management. What's the problem? Would it be better if it were the day before or after? The one time I got fired from a job, it was a week after I bought a new car.
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Mar 31, 2016 15:39
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CPColin posted:So a pile of people were laid off yesterday and one of them was celebrating her birthday. Good planning, management. Please say there was a cake sitting in the break room, but she was already gone. Also, who was the first one to dig into it? That's the sociopath of the office.
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Mar 31, 2016 16:14
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Gounads posted:Please say there was a cake sitting in the break room, but she was already gone. Also, who was the first one to dig into it? That's the sociopath of the office. We both know it was the CEO
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Mar 31, 2016 16:19
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piratepilates posted:We both know it was the CEO That, or someone from HR.
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Mar 31, 2016 16:20
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Ithaqua posted:What's the problem? Would it be better if it were the day before or after? The one time I got fired from a job, it was a week after I bought a new car. This is not the first time it's happened! Sadly, there wasn't a cake anywhere. We have enough people where there's only one cake per month. The person whose birthday it was was the person who usually orders it, so there probably won't be an April cake for a while.
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Mar 31, 2016 19:25
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CPColin posted:This is not the first time it's happened! Clearly you can't have layoffs if you have more than 400 employees.
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Mar 31, 2016 19:47
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CPColin posted:This is not the first time it's happened! Again: So what? Being fired sucks no matter what day it is. It's sort of lovely if you're firing one person and it's their birthday, but it's firing them the day before or the day after (or even +/- a week) really makes no difference in terms of how bad they'll feel about it. If it's a mass layoff situation, what are they supposed to do? Schedule around every employee's birthday?
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Mar 31, 2016 19:49
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I'm not going to try to convince you that it was lovely.
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Mar 31, 2016 19:59
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CPColin posted:I'm not going to try to convince you that it was lovely. Of course it's lovely! Layoffs are lovely. They're a dehumanizing response to poor planning - but I agree with Ithaqua, the actual day it happens is less of a thing for the person that it happens to than the fact that it happened at all. Odds are in fact that someone involved with a layoff event will be having a birthday, or their significant other will be, or their children will be, or some similarly supposed-to-be-fun thing will be going on. There is simply no good time to be laid off for the employee getting laid off. Plus you have to be realistic: if a company is prone to doing layoffs at all, no organizer of a layoff going to reconfigure it because the day of the year is significant to someone being affected. That's just the cold nature of it. Here are the reasons HR might decide that someone should not be involved in a layoff event:
And both of those have a big fat MAYBE riding alongside. At the big company I used to work for as a manager I'd only ever seen layoff lists be questioned for the first reason and all it did was slow HR down while the company made sure their asses were covered. That was one reason among many that I got out 
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Apr 1, 2016 00:32
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I was gonna bring in cupcakes on my birthday in 2014, but forgot to bring them, and I felt a little bad for not sharing them with my workmates. Then I got fired, and then I ate all of them when I got back home. Anyway yeah I got fired on my birthday too and it sucks.
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Apr 1, 2016 01:34
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On the other hand I was only there for like two months and the company folded a month afterwards so 
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Apr 1, 2016 01:35
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Alright, interview is on thursday - I'm interviewing for a consultant that primarily works with financial systems, what sort of stuff should I be focusing my studying on. I'm a little rusty on my algorithms and I'm guessing a bit of encryption wouldn't go amiss. I haven't started yet because I've been busy studying for exams 
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Apr 6, 2016 03:03
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ChickenWing posted:Alright, interview is on thursday - I'm interviewing for a consultant that primarily works with financial systems, what sort of stuff should I be focusing my studying on. I'm a little rusty on my algorithms and I'm guessing a bit of encryption wouldn't go amiss. I haven't started yet because I've been busy studying for exams Having worked at a large financial firm, I'd focus more on Excel and CSV files...
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Apr 6, 2016 03:10
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ChickenWing posted:Alright, interview is on thursday - I'm interviewing for a consultant that primarily works with financial systems, what sort of stuff should I be focusing my studying on. I'm a little rusty on my algorithms and I'm guessing a bit of encryption wouldn't go amiss. I haven't started yet because I've been busy studying for exams What's the job? It should have reqs etc.
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Apr 6, 2016 03:25
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Skandranon posted:Having worked at a large financial firm, I'd focus more on Excel and CSV files... Truth. Get ready for some old rear end code that somehow manages to work, and that everyone is afraid to touch. Data integration, that is, the ETL/flat file parsing side of it, is probably going to be the bread and butter of most financial systems. Modern, clean REST APIs are nowhere to be found. Some of this stuff is highly specific to the industry, but a brush up on regular expressions, SOAP, and some of the popular Java/.NET (guessing it's one of these) parsing/Excel libraries wouldn't hurt.
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Apr 6, 2016 03:31
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If the company has been around for long enough, expect some COBOL and mainframes, too.
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Apr 10, 2016 20:14
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Well into the process of negotiating a price with a design firm to help with a set of new features. CEO sends email suggesting we also do X, Y and Z X+Y+Z is probably 50x the scope of work of those features.
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Apr 11, 2016 00:27
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Do you guys have any good resources for practicing for technical interviews? I'm trying to make a slight career adjustment away from overly broad "do everything IT-related" into a more backend development-oriented line of work, but I've never never had to face interviews more suitable for programming jobs.
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Apr 11, 2016 06:18
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IAmKale posted:Do you guys have any good resources for practicing for technical interviews? I'm trying to make a slight career adjustment away from overly broad "do everything IT-related" into a more backend development-oriented line of work, but I've never never had to face interviews more suitable for programming jobs. Cracking the Coding Interview is usually the first go-to suggested around here. https://www.amazon.ca/Cracking-Coding-Interview-Programming-Questions/dp/098478280X I've found the most important part is not panicking. Especially when whiteboarding. Pretend that you are already hired, and you and the interviewers are working on the problem together, and you're just holding the pen.
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I think we need to implement code reviews for the solely so the other developers will spell their class/file names correctly and tab poo poo in consistently. God drat.
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