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LegoPirateNinja posted:I don't understand why eugenics people sterilized kids and stuff like nigga why bother if the supermen you're breeding will outcompete them anyway I just assumed it was White people who hate people of African origin 
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Sialia posted:It's pretty retarded, there is no way he will not be discovered in space anyway, and then he will be remembered as a criminal. Additionally, there was never any proof there wasn't a heart condition, we just didn't see it yet. He may well have developed something after launch You see the scene where he's on the treadmill?
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Applewhite posted:We can only hope. You'd think he could make up some excuse for that (say, forgetting to wear safety glasses while using power tools). And wouldn't contact lenses be just as detectable to anyone paying that level of attention to his eyes? Applewhite posted:Yeah seriously they should have sprung for the friggin' designer package. The movie did seem to imply that designer babies were more or less the norm (as opposed to being limited to the upper class as some people have feared) - that the only natural combinations of sperm and egg were from people with some philosophical objection to genetic engineering (as evidenced by the term "faith child"). Which does raise an interesting question: Is there any ethical excuse to let a child suffer from a debilitating condition because the only effective treatment to prevent it is too unnatural for your liking?
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Cockmaster posted:Which does raise an interesting question: Is there any ethical excuse to let a child suffer from a debilitating condition because the only effective treatment to prevent it is too unnatural for your liking? None that I can see. Objecting to designer babies is tantamount to saying you think it's good and right that some people be born with congenital disabilities.
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Applewhite posted:None that I can see. Objecting to designer babies is tantamount to saying you think it's good and right that some people be born with congenital disabilities. it's god's/satan's will, you heathen
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Apr 9, 2016 18:20
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GATTACA!
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cheerfullydrab posted:deception movies: the thread
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Sialia posted:You could almost end up with civil war or an illegality behind non-designer children. Then what happens when the 'accidents' come along? They are removed from the home, the family never to see them again, because if they are let live in the general community then you will get this poo poo happening. And it all starts because of one loving guy. We can already do in vivo gene modification thanks to recent technological developments. In the dystopian future we live in, your pathetic, inferior babies will be modified into ubermenschen before they're ever born!
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Apr 9, 2016 23:17
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Cockmaster posted:The movie did seem to imply that designer babies were more or less the norm (as opposed to being limited to the upper class as some people have feared) - that the only natural combinations of sperm and egg were from people with some philosophical objection to genetic engineering (as evidenced by the term "faith child"). There is no gene for the human (its a movie about "faith people" triumphing through deception.)
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So in Gattaca the guy's parents are like people who think vaccines cause autism, then they vaccinate their second child after the first gets whooping cough.
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Applewhite posted:Vincent Freeman was diagnosed with a congenital heart condition that could kill him at any time after the age of thirty, as well as nearsightedness. He hides these handicaps from his employers at the space program (by assuming the identity of someone with a more suitable genetic profile) and through hard work and determination, earns a spot on the Mars mission. Hooray! Triumph of the human spirit over cold genetic calculation, right? There was no evidence that he didn't bring any of that stuff. Plus he made it this far; you're telling me he isn't smart enough to figure out ways to survive a 8 year journey? Additionally one of the doctors knew so it's not ridiculous that someone might accommodate him. The world molds to the people who are determined enough to sculpt it. Have some faith man. I think you'll understand a bit better if you have some of my hair.
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I think worse than the parents using eugenics on Anton was not naming Vincent 'Anton' because he was gonna die. The dad was a huge dick.
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I think people should not make sci fi films where they take a modern social issue and invent a society what that issue is the only thing that matters
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That's 90% of Sci Fi, I think that's why Sci Fi exists in the first place
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I remember Gattaca being really loving boring. That is all I remember.
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Apr 10, 2016 01:15
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Honestly I don't think Ethan Hawke has ever been in anything that has been boring, even his critically acclaimed slice-of-life movies that on paper should be snooze-fests
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I saw this movie and don't remember ANYTHING about space or astronauts or anything of the sort. I mean it was like17 years ago and all but drat.
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They spend less than a minute in space, I didn't even remember there was a murder in it I mean I watched it 10 years ago but drat
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Apr 10, 2016 01:41
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I watched this movie in AP Biology class and also Jurassic Park That's my story, hope you liked it.
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Professor Shark posted:Honestly I don't think Ethan Hawke has ever been in anything that has been boring, even his critically acclaimed slice-of-life movies that on paper should be snooze-fests Gattaca came out in a year where I was a freshman in high school (so a dumb rear end in a top hat) and when I was living on an Airforce base in South Korea. I hit the theater on base 3+ times a week, hit the awesome Korean arcades downtown, spent tons of time at the gym and pool and rec center, worked construction for less than the Federal minimum wage for the Department of Defense (their excuse was that they only had so much money to pay the military dependent workers, so the more who applied, the less everyone got paid. So my $4.25/hour funded all of this) and had started to realize that girls made me feel funny. Gattaca was a boring piece of trash at the time. I imagine I'd find it quite engaging these days.
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It's on Shomi, go watch it
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Applewhite posted:Vincent Freeman was diagnosed with a congenital heart condition that could kill him at any time after the age of thirty, as well as nearsightedness. He hides these handicaps from his employers at the space program (by assuming the identity of someone with a more suitable genetic profile) and through hard work and determination, earns a spot on the Mars mission. Hooray! Triumph of the human spirit over cold genetic calculation, right? Honestly you're right
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Jimmy the Greek realized that America did its own form of gene modification without science and it took under a century.
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What are they gunna do? Turn the shuttle back? Do you have any idea how much it costs to launch a shuttle to mars? Even in the future, they'd be like *ehh*, gently caress it. Then they would crack down on testing 10x as hard on the rest of the workers LOL
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Pawn 17 posted:What are they gunna do? Turn the shuttle back? Do you have any idea how much it costs to launch a shuttle to mars? Even in the future, they'd be like *ehh*, gently caress it. Then they would crack down on testing 10x as hard on the rest of the workers LOL Exactly, Vincent's little stunt basically hosed everyone over on the ship and Earth. Congratulations on being the last in-valid who will ever even get to look at a spaceship, dickhead.
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I don't know about anyone else but it seems like climbing into and incinerator and burning yourself to death isn't the best way to commit suicide.
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i don't respect the movie of Gattaca, and i don't respect jude law
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nomadologique posted:i don't respect the movie of Gattaca, and i don't respect jude law Jiggalo Joe, what'd ya know
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Gattaca is probably my favorite movie ever, but yes Vincent definitely had his fatal heart attack during the mission and maybe caused the death of everyone on board since he was supposed to be their navigator I'm pretty sure, what a dick
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Aralan posted:Gattaca is probably my favorite movie ever, but yes Vincent definitely had his fatal heart attack during the mission and maybe caused the death of everyone on board since he was supposed to be their navigator I'm pretty sure, what a dick Same here. I loving loved this movie, but Vincent was a dick.
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Gattaca 2: The In-Valid WarsZippy the Bummer posted:I don't know about anyone else but it seems like climbing into and incinerator and burning yourself to death isn't the best way to commit suicide. No but it's the manliest.
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the one thing gattica did bring to the table is you can use invalid as an insult to strangers on the internet
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Zippy the Bummer posted:I don't know about anyone else but it seems like climbing into and incinerator and burning yourself to death isn't the best way to commit suicide. paging Enfield
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Why did they scan everyone every day? People usually don't have to show their ID every day in case someone shows up at the office and starts pretending to be them while no one else notices.
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MeLKoR posted:Why did they scan everyone every day? People usually don't have to show their ID every day in case someone shows up at the office and starts pretending to be them while no one else notices. The movie takes place in the same shared universe and at the same time as Minority Report. It's just neither movie bothers to mention the other so it's not obvious.
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You can read all about it in my fanfiction: the Gattaca Report on Fanfiction.net.
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The only thing Gattaca did wrong was not giving the genetic underclass something to do so they wouldn't just be hanging out in slums all day. Give them an opportunity to do honest, fulfilling work through a Civilian Conservation Corps kind of program. You don't need to be a genetically engineered superman to plant trees.
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cheerfullydrab posted:So in Gattaca the guy's parents are like people who think vaccines cause autism, then they vaccinate their second child after the first gets whooping cough. no thanks i'd rather not 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Pvt.Scott posted:I remember Gattaca being really loving boring. That is all I remember. we watched it in school and it was 
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