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Jade Star
Jul 15, 2002

It burns when I LP
Not likely. I don't have a way to cheat the game.

Also it may be less than necessary. There is, or was more likely, a multiplayer mode where we can play with all of the guns and bombs and everything in cool environments. I can easily make a video of shooting up a scene with the entire arsenal. And if somehow the multiplayer still works, we could make a video or two of shooting each other up and launching each other into space with sledgehammers.

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Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Crossposting from the schadenfreude thread

Karma Monkey posted:

Please enjoy these demolition fails - a testimony to superior construction or inferior explosives placement!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBPpfg_aWcE

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

You call them demolition failures, I call (some of) them engineering successes. That silo? Whoever built that should put the video on their resume.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

It's fairly easy to increase scrap with cheat engine. Shame that this game doesn't have the sheer breadth of cheats the SR games do.

Woebin
Feb 6, 2006

Jade Star posted:

Not likely. I don't have a way to cheat the game.

Also it may be less than necessary. There is, or was more likely, a multiplayer mode where we can play with all of the guns and bombs and everything in cool environments. I can easily make a video of shooting up a scene with the entire arsenal. And if somehow the multiplayer still works, we could make a video or two of shooting each other up and launching each other into space with sledgehammers.
Since the transition from GFWL there's no reason multiplayer shouldn't work.

Jade Star
Jul 15, 2002

It burns when I LP


In today's episode we rebuild from the rubble of the ruined Red Faction base, and we're going to need allies and new recruits.

We come in peace

Jade Star
Jul 15, 2002

It burns when I LP
gently caress. Edit=/=Quote mistake

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Ahriman - it still is possible to smell ozone around electronics. When they melt/explode.

Just as important as Ozone, does Mars even have a magnetosphere. Because those are also super handy for keeping deadly space radiation out. Which is why the whole shields issue has come up with manned missions to Mars.

CrazySalamander
Nov 5, 2009
The ozone layer helps block UV radiation which is honestly the least of your problems. What mars really needs is a nice magnetosphere to block radiation.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I'm pretty sure the news also said Alan Mason. They've got some top-rate intel, there.

AhrimanPK
Oct 9, 2012

'Ello 'Ello 'Ello

My name's Clive Owen!

CrazySalamander posted:

The ozone layer helps block UV radiation which is honestly the least of your problems. What mars really needs is a nice magnetosphere to block radiation.

Yeah, it doesn't have a magnetosphere. I thought I mentioned that earlier in the LP but I think it was in a recording where the audio messed up. This is thought to be one of the reasons for the relative lack of atmosphere on Mars, as cosmic rays and UV break water down into free Hydrogen and Oxygen, and Hydrogen is so light that the lower gravity means that most of it is lost into space, not to mention the losses from the solar wind just scraping the air off. I'm pretty sure that I mentioned that this constant loss of atmosphere is why they should still be having to smash comets into the surface fairly regularly to replenish it. One of the many reasons why disbelief has to be suspended to make the terraforming of Mars in this game credible.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

Violence and astrophysics are the only languages they understand.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I think the more inspiring message to the people of mars was the slow but steady stream of EDF men flying off a ridge at high velocity.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
The Marauders do get their origin explicitly spelled out if you have the Demons of the Badlands DLC where you play as Samanya in her Marauder days. Putting it in spoilers here in case you don't: They're the descendants of Ultor, the megacorp that was the main villain of Red Faction 1. When the EDF liberation force arrived, the surviving Ultor personnel - mainly the science team who had been under Capek - fled into the caverns and wastelands of Mars, and they want all the colonists off their planet.

Jade Star
Jul 15, 2002

It burns when I LP


Sometimes I play this game and am just giddy with how much fun blowing everything up is. And sometimes something magical happens besides that that makes me stop, stare, and laugh. This is one of those episodes.

Liberating Eos

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Ah good ole Dr. Wiley. (27:35)

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

That party got appropriately crazy and it was good.

Panboy
May 20, 2010

Le'me tell ya'll about them Apples.
Im pretty sure the notes your finding are from survivors of Redfaction one, Parker pretty much left Ultor as burning wreck, and then they became the Marauders, And that was generations ago, I'm not sure how long the time gap is though. Also im not sure the current marauders would really be scientists even if their grandparents were. More like a techno cult.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Panboy posted:

Im pretty sure the notes your finding are from survivors of Redfaction one, Parker pretty much left Ultor as burning wreck, and then they became the Marauders, And that was generations ago, I'm not sure how long the time gap is though. Also im not sure the current marauders would really be scientists even if their grandparents were. More like a techno cult.

Guerrilla takes place in 2125, while the original Red Faction was in 2075. It's been 50 years since Ultor was blown to poo poo and the EDF took over control of Mars. This means the current Marauders are likely the children and grandchildren of the original Ultor scientists, while the elderly would be the original scientists themselves.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


There actually was a way to get that first rocket mech up the ravine, you just missed the path, barely.

The next mission is simultaneously my most and least favorite mission in the game.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
The edf had high quality satellite spotting tech that can deliver an artillery shot within a half second of being called in, but literally never used that for any of their mason red alerts in the first half of the game.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


At first, Mason wasn't worth the effort. Then, it's assumed he's out of range. Then he just blows the drat things up.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Kwyndig posted:

At first, Mason wasn't worth the effort. Then, it's assumed he's out of range. Then he just blows the drat things up.

They blow up all of oasis with the guns. At no point between "meh" and "blow up everything" did anyone say "hey maybe that guy we're chasing with our armored vehicles, let's hit it with our perfect artillery"

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.
I have an inkling you might be thinking about the plot in this game about exploding and/or sledgehammering everything in sight a little bit too hard

Jade Star
Jul 15, 2002

It burns when I LP


There are so many things potentially wrong with the events that are about to transpire. What the hell happened to Mason at the beginning of the video? Is Mason cool with the gigantic body count he is about to have? Who will actually govern Mars once it's free? Will Mason be the Martian secretary of rear end kicking? Why didn't the Hydra have escorts? Or any sort of point defense systems? Why the hell did Earth need a ship like that to begin with? How will the EDF fight the Zerg with out the Hydra?

The Last Stand

Panboy
May 20, 2010

Le'me tell ya'll about them Apples.
That was a pretty good play trough, quite enjoyed it had fun GG.

The pick axe is a call back to the original game.

Also you should play the first one know its also a good game, not as much exploding mind you, its very much an early 2000s shooter with the great gimmick that is the geo mod. Ive been trying to play redfaction 2 to complete my experience of the full franchise its got more geomod that i recalled but its quite a slog so i cant really recommend it. Also Armageddon is a decent game not really deserving of the bad rep it got its a fun shooter it just has a very different feel being a linear game coming after a sand box.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Panboy posted:

That was a pretty good play trough, quite enjoyed it had fun GG.

The pick axe is a call back to the original game.

Also you should play the first one know its also a good game, not as much exploding mind you, its very much an early 2000s shooter with the great gimmick that is the geo mod. Ive been trying to play redfaction 2 to complete my experience of the full franchise its got more geomod that i recalled but its quite a slog so i cant really recommend it. Also Armageddon is a decent game not really deserving of the bad rep it got its a fun shooter it just has a very different feel being a linear game coming after a sand box.

I'm of the opinion that Armageddon would have been very well received if it was standing alone on its own merits. Unfortunately, it was coming off the back of a sandbox game that prided itself on heavy use of a really unique destruction mechanic that still hasn't really been replicated on the same scale in a big budget game. The only way Armageddon could have gotten a good reaction would be to build on it and go bigger. Instead, it tried to apply the exact same mechanics to a linear corridor shooter in primarily non-destructible environments.

It's like going from eating really great, fresh Thai food to eating a frozen Thai entree from Walmart: it's the same ingredients, but not presented as well and only comes off worse by comparing it to what you had before.

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Good game, good LP

Any plans to show off the DLC? It's worth a look for the new weapons, if nothing else.

Jade Star
Jul 15, 2002

It burns when I LP
Oh right, there is the Sam's story DLC or something. I'll have to double check that I have it and will totally do that if I do.

Woebin
Feb 6, 2006

A thing I noticed during the satellite bits is the scrolling text on the left:

It reads "Text that you can not read goes here." over and over.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Jade Star posted:

There are so many things potentially wrong with the events that are about to transpire. What the hell happened to Mason at the beginning of the video? Is Mason cool with the gigantic body count he is about to have? Who will actually govern Mars once it's free? Will Mason be the Martian secretary of rear end kicking? Why didn't the Hydra have escorts? Or any sort of point defense systems? Why the hell did Earth need a ship like that to begin with? How will the EDF fight the Zerg with out the Hydra?

Mason is totally fine with the body count. This is a man who did not hesitate one bit before starting to cave in faces with a sledgehammer or stick demolition charge to people and watch as they desperately flail around before blowing them up. Or, you know, disintegrate them despite their horrible screams every time he does it.

As for who will govern Mars and all that, obviously Mason is going to be the King of Mars.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Wanamingo posted:

Any plans to show off the DLC? It's worth a look for the new weapons, if nothing else.

Also a couple of demolitions challenges I found harder than anything in the base game. :v: One seems to be predicated on setting up a gas can chain reaction that you have to set off by hitting a thrown can with a rail driver just right to make use of its armor-piercing properties to set off two simultaneous chain reactions.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

YeOldeButchere posted:

Mason is totally fine with the body count. This is a man who did not hesitate one bit before starting to cave in faces with a sledgehammer or stick demolition charge to people and watch as they desperately flail around before blowing them up. Or, you know, disintegrate them despite their horrible screams every time he does it.

As for who will govern Mars and all that, obviously Mason is going to be the King of Mars.

There's actually between-games canon material that covers exactly what goes on in the buildup to Armageddon. The Red Faction and Marauders divide Mars between them, with the Marauder state in the Badlands and the Red Faction state based in Eos, with disputed territory between them. The remnants of Earth Government are hunted down, but enough survive to form their own White Faction that becomes the new rebellion against the Martian government.

Alec Mason and Samanya settle down and have kids, but only 5 years after the revolution Samanya gets assassinated by a White Faction strike team disguised as Marauders and their daughter is kidnapped. Alec falls into depression and alcoholism for the next 20 years as the attack is blamed on the Marauders. 25 years after the revolution, the Hydra wreckage exits orbit and crashes on Mars and the White Faction kills the Marauder scout team sent to investigate, blaming it on the colonists. Alec Mason's son, Jake (a soldier in the Red Faction), witnesses the White Faction and just barely manages to prove their existence before Red Faction and the Marauders engage in open warfare. The White Faction reveals that they have another ship of the same model as the Hydra, but Alec Mason sacrifices himself by crashing a ship into it and destroying it. Jake also rescues his sister from the White Faction.

Jake Mason becomes the leader of a new Red Faction government of both colonists and Marauders, hoping to lead to an era of peace and understanding between the peoples. Adam Hale, the young leader of the White Faction (thrust into the position after the original head was killed in battle), survives the destruction of his ship and forms a cult based on an offshoot of Marauder culture. He goes completely insane and in 2170 (45 years after the revolution) destroys the Terraformer, setting up the events of Armageddon.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


One of the fun things about the last mission is if you're fast enough with that rail gun sniper rifle you can murder the general in his tank before he gets a chance to talk.

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Sep 6, 2006

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chitoryu12 posted:

There's actually between-games canon material that covers exactly what goes on in the buildup to Armageddon.

[buncha stuff]

Nope, don't care. Mason became King of Mars. Samanya became Queen. Jenkins became the Minister of Martian Purity, heading the brutal and universally feared Martian inquisition to root out all influence from "those drat oxygen breathing Earth pansies".

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

The real question regarding all that backstory is how come Armageddon wasn't about that instead?

Bobbin Threadbare fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Apr 21, 2016

Woebin
Feb 6, 2006

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

The real question regarding all that backstory is how come Armageddon wasn't about that instead?
It's been discussed earlier in the thread, but tl;dr: marketing demanded aliens and poo poo.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

It all got put into Red Faction Origins, a SyFy movie that they were hoping could act as a TV pilot. As far as I know, the movie wasn't too popular and they're not currently going forward with a Red Faction TV series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CESsM9ia-rk

Edit: Yes, that is loving old man Robert Patrick as Alec Mason.

chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Apr 22, 2016

Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


chitoryu12 posted:

... The remnants of Earth Government are hunted down, but enough survive to form their own White Faction that becomes the new rebellion against the Martian government.
... The White Faction reveals that they have another ship of the same model as the Hydra, ...

I'm curious how the martians managed to depose earth's government from mars. Mars is far away from earth, last I checked.
Also I would have thought small matters like 'number of space battleships in service' would be easy to keep straight.

It's all fairly non-sense though.

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Teledahn posted:

I'm curious how the martians managed to depose earth's government from mars. Mars is far away from earth, last I checked.
Also I would have thought small matters like 'number of space battleships in service' would be easy to keep straight.

It's all fairly non-sense though.

I'm guessing the distance is exactly why the Martians were able to gain independence in the first place. It takes a lot of resources to build up an invading force, especially after the planet-destroying pride of your space fleet got turned into scrap metal before it could even do anything and everyone still alive on the ground was left running and hiding.

Apparently the Hydra was the first ship ever in that class of dreadnoughts, and the second ship was built by the White Faction. They needed the wreckage of the Hydra to finish it.

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