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Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Helical Nightmares posted:

Out of one of them so far. One of the other news reports said that one of the victims was shot in bed next to her four day old baby who was spared.

Got to be more than one person since there were 4 locations where shootings took place and the locations were within a 10 minute drive.

If the bodies were discovered at around 8 am, maybe this was done early in the morning? The details are starting to scream a professional raid and ambush.

Is there a map of the four shooting locations a news site has put up?



Only map I could find.

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George Zimmer
Jun 28, 2008

LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:

as a columbus resident i will confirm south ohio is a freeway wasteland where animals are too dumb not to wander into the roads.

I lived in loving West Virginia and I always thought Ohio was depressing when I'd cross the river to buy groceries

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Marijuana Nihilist posted:

nothing more American than mass shootings

edit: seriously if murdering unarmed people were a sport americans would take home the Olympic gold everytime

You may be on to something there,

Son shoots parents, parent fires back, all 3 injured

http://www.wxii12.com/news/son-shoots-parents-parent-fires-back-all-3-injured/39182574

It's officially summer now.

a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009

Lime Tonics posted:

You may be on to something there,

Son shoots parents, parent fires back, all 3 injured

http://www.wxii12.com/news/son-shoots-parents-parent-fires-back-all-3-injured/39182574

It's officially summer now.

yee haw

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

GET MY BELT SON posted:

I fuckin said so!

who are you what did you say and why should i care 20 words or less go

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Lime Tonics posted:

You may be on to something there,

Son shoots parents, parent fires back, all 3 injured

http://www.wxii12.com/news/son-shoots-parents-parent-fires-back-all-3-injured/39182574

It's officially summer now.

thank god they all had guns otherwise someone coulda been killed

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


imo instead of tryig to stop mass shootings we should embrace em. put it right up there with apple pie, baseball and blonds with big titties

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Profondo Rosso posted:

imo instead of tryig to stop mass shootings we should embrace em. put it right up there with apple pie, baseball and blonds with big titties

every lame dad should commit a mass shooting in front of their kids to emphasize how dumb and stupid it is if dad likes it.

BunnySkull
Jan 28, 2005

TABLOID JUNKIE
UNIDENTIFIED SOURCES SAID IT SO IT MUST BE TRUE!
I don't know if I should have pointed it out in my previous comment about but the lady who called 9/11 being there to feed "chicken and dogs" - points not just to "dog fighting" but also cock fighting which is now also being mentioned in connection to the murders.

How shocking the violence is being connected to a world that thrives on the violence and torture of animals.

I still think it's 50/50 that its related to drugs/underground animal fighting or domestic issues. The methodical execution style murders do point to something connected with something more than jealous baby daddy BS.

Fat Lowtax
Nov 9, 2008


"I'm willing to pay up to $1200 for a big anime titty"


:420:

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot
So what I gather is this was a good mass shooting and not the bad kind?

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

season 3 of fargo

BunnySkull
Jan 28, 2005

TABLOID JUNKIE
UNIDENTIFIED SOURCES SAID IT SO IT MUST BE TRUE!
Three grow operations found on the murder scene.

I'd say the dumb hillbillies let some mexican cartel players in the area set up operations on their property. If there was any type of professional set-up these guys didn't have the know how or the money to fund it, but they did have property and land, so deal was worked out where they let the land be used and profits were split.

Knowing typical rednecks they either hosed up the operation some how via theft or got mad they weren't getting enough of the profits and started a beef about it.

Telling mexican cartel members to gently caress off or keeping their poo poo will get you, and your entire family, killed.

(And yes, believe it or not Mexican cartels do operate in Southern, Ohio. They found it convenient to set up operations to supply their markets in Cleveland and Colubus rather than having to always transport it across the border and so far north. Several operations run by mexican nationals have been busted in the region. They probably decided using locals as a front for grow operations was a safer bet and would attract less LE attention).

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
If the children were alive, maybe they done it?

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

BunnySkull posted:

Three grow operations found on the murder scene.

I'd say the dumb hillbillies let some mexican cartel players in the area set up operations on their property. If there was any type of professional set-up these guys didn't have the know how or the money to fund it, but they did have property and land, so deal was worked out where they let the land be used and profits were split.

Knowing typical rednecks they either hosed up the operation some how via theft or got mad they weren't getting enough of the profits and started a beef about it.

Telling mexican cartel members to gently caress off or keeping their poo poo will get you, and your entire family, killed.

(And yes, believe it or not Mexican cartels do operate in Southern, Ohio. They found it convenient to set up operations to supply their markets in Cleveland and Colubus rather than having to always transport it across the border and so far north. Several operations run by mexican nationals have been busted in the region. They probably decided using locals as a front for grow operations was a safer bet and would attract less LE attention).

Good

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Trump's gonna win Ohio over this.

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/04/marijuana_growing_operations_f.html

PIKETON, Ohio -- Investigators found marijuana growing operations at three of four crime scenes where members of a Southern Ohio family were killed execution-style, Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine said Sunday.

DeWine and Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader called the Friday slayings "methodical and well-planned," but said at a news conference that investigators still don't know how many shooters were involved and have made no arrests.

"This was not something that just happened," Reader said. "A family was targeted, most of them targeted while they were sleeping.

So 99% chance it was a pro hit.

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

Lime Tonics posted:

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/04/marijuana_growing_operations_f.html

PIKETON, Ohio -- Investigators found marijuana growing operations at three of four crime scenes where members of a Southern Ohio family were killed execution-style, Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine said Sunday.

DeWine and Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader called the Friday slayings "methodical and well-planned," but said at a news conference that investigators still don't know how many shooters were involved and have made no arrests.

"This was not something that just happened," Reader said. "A family was targeted, most of them targeted while they were sleeping.

So 99% chance it was a pro hit.

I'm so very glad marijuana is illegal in the state

Serious Party Gods
Apr 2, 2009

If 8 people had to die over some weed...You're doing it wrong.

Edit: With all the nursing/care workers in this family, I bet dollars to donuts it was opioid-related.

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
THis wouldn't have happened if we had legalized it :weed:

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

The Kingfish posted:

Trump's gonna win Ohio over this.

Huh. Didn't think of this. But if it turns out to be Mexican cartels...you could very well be right if Trump reaches the general.

By the way thanks for the maps et al gents.

This site looks like a good source. I'm posting the whole thing because it has a loving annoying paywall.

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/story/news/2016/04/23/what-we-know-pike-county-mass-shooting/83428434/

quote:

What we know: Pike County mass shooting

There are currently more questions than answers surrounding Friday's mass shooting in Pike County.

Here is what we know so far (will be updated as new information arrives):

Timeline

7:53 a.m., Friday: The Pike County Sheriff’s Office is called to 4077 Union Hill Road. The caller says there is a lot of blood and two male victims.

As deputies are responding, they are flagged down and told about two more addresses, 4199 and 3122 Union Hill Road. In all, seven victims, all adults, are found dead in the three homes.

1:36 p.m., Friday: Attorney General Mike DeWine sends out a news release stating that at least seven people were murdered in “execution-style killings.” DeWine says it is not an active-shooter situation. However, investigators are still trying to determine if the killer – or killers – is among the victims or on the loose.

Unspecified time, Friday afternoon: Officials are alerted to a fourth crime scene on Left Fork Road, where an eighth victim, a 16-year-old male, is found.

4:15 p.m., Friday: DeWine and Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader host a press conference. They confirm seven adults and a 16-year-old boy are dead. All were shot in the head. Many were in bed at the time.

Only three children survived – a now 5-day-old, a 6-month-old and a 3-year-old.

11:30 a.m., Saturday: The Attorney General, via press release, said the shootings are still under investigation and no arrests had been made.

DeWine said he spoke with Ohio Gov. John Kasich Saturday morning to update him on the investigation.

12 p.m., Saturday: The AG's office said the Hamilton County Coroner's Office will be performing autopsies on the eight victims Saturday.

A call placed to Hamilton County Coroner Lakshmi Sammarco was not immediately returned.

12:50 p.m. Saturday: Kimberly Newman, a member of the Ohio Crisis Response Team, read a short statement on behalf of the Rhoden family.

"The Rhoden family would like to thank everyone for all the outpouring for prayers and support for their family," she read. "They ask that you continue to keep them in your prayers. They'd like to thank all law enforcement from Pike County and all surrounding counties for their immediate response, especially to Sheriff Charlie Reader for all his hard work."

Newman also thanked Ohio Attorney General's Office and the Bureau of Criminal Investigations, as well as the first responders and victim advocates. She encouraged anyone with information about the shootings to contact law enforcement at 855-BCI-OHIO.

2 p.m. Saturday: Cincinnati-area restaurateur Jeff Ruby offered a $25,000 reward for any information about the Pike County shootings that would lead to an arrest and conviction. Ruby announced his reward on Twitter and a release quickly followed from the Attorney General's Office.

3 p.m. Saturday: The Attorney General's Office released audio from two 911 calls that came to dispatchers after the discovery of the mass shooting scene in Pike County Friday morning.

A partial transcription of the initial call -

“I think my brother-in-law is dead,” said a distraught caller speaking with a female 911 operator while gasping for breath. She said two men, Chris Rhoden and Gary Rhoden, at 4077 Union Hill Road appear to be dead.

“There’s blood all over the house. My brother-in-law is in the bedroom and it looks like someone has beat the hell out of him,” she said.

The call was placed at 7:49 a.m. Friday morning. The woman had driven to the house and discovered the horrifying scene.

“I think they are both dead,” she said.

A partial transcription of another 911 call -

“I need a deputy to come out to close to 799 Left Fork. It’s all that stuff that’s on the news. I just found my cousin with a gunshot wound,” a male caller said. He identified the man with a gunshot wound as Kenneth Rhoden.

When asked if Kenneth Rhoden was alive, the male caller just said, “No. no.” The call came in at 1:26 p.m. Friday.

“I just went in hollering at him, and checked if he was alright, and I looked up at him and he had a gunshot wound,” the man said.

5:35 p.m. Saturday: The Attorney General's Office Saturday evening released the names of the victims of Friday morning's mass shooting in Pike County.

The deceased are: Hannah Gilley, Christopher, Rhoden, Sr., Christopher Rhoden, Jr., Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden, Dana Rhoden, Gary Rhoden, Hanna Rhoden and Kenneth Rhoden.

The Attorney General's Office announced that work at each of the four crime scenes has been completed.

11:55 a.m. Sunday: Gov. John Kasich Sunday morning called the slaying of eight family members in Pike County "a horrible set of murders."

Kasich says he's been getting updates on the case as he is campaigning out of state for the Republican presidential nomination.

The governor told CBS in an interview Saturday that he is confident the perpetrators would be found and "justice will be delivered to them."

Attorney General Mike DeWine's office said Saturday that work at each of the crime scenes has been completed, and investigators are pursuing leads and processing evidence.

3 p.m. Sunday: The Ohio Attorney General and Pike County Sheriff announced Sunday afternoon that a 4:30 p.m. press conference will be held updating the ongoing investigation into the Pike County mass shooting that occurred Friday.

4:08 p.m.: The press conference scheduled for 4:30 p.m. has been pushed back to 4:45 p.m.

5:30 p.m.: Attorney General Mike DeWine and Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader had very little to reveal about the investigation into the Pike County mass killings during a Sunday evening press conference, but did say authorities found three marijuana grow operations at the scenes of the crime.

Reader indicated teams of law enforcement were in the woods near the crime scenes looking for evidence. Reader and DeWine would not comment on if the crimes were drug-related, but reiterated the shootings were planned and specifically targeted the Rhoden family.

Evidence found during searches around the Rhoden residences would be sent to the state crime lab, where 18 other pieces of evidence from the scenes are being analyzed, DeWine said.

Authorities have conducted 50 to 60 interviews and executed five search warrants since the scene was discovered Friday morning, DeWine said.

Reader and DeWine refused to release many more details to the public in an attempt to keep the "bad guys" from knowing the information in the possession of investigators.

After questions of public safety, Reader told residents of Pike County to arm themselves if they feared for their family's safety.

:tfrxmas:

The Rhoden family


Victims of the mass shooting were all related.

The first seven victims were located by Pike County deputies at 4077 Union Hill Road, 4199 Union Hill Road and 3122 Union Hill Road, all in Pike County.

The initial 911 call was for the 4077 Union Hill address, which is the home of Christopher Rhoden.

Pastor Phil Fulton, of Union Hill Church, said one of the deceased is 37-year-old Dana Manley Rhoden, Christopher Rhoden's ex-wife.

A fourth crime scene with an eighth victim, a 16-year-old boy, was established near Left Fork Road's intersection with OH 772 in Pike County.

Three small children, a now 5-day-old, a 6-month-old and a 3-year-old survived the shootings. The Pike County Sheriff's Office and the Ohio Attorney General's Office have not said who is currently caring for the children.


The investigation

Update 5:30 p.m. Sunday: Attorney General Mike DeWine and Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader had very little to reveal about the investigation into the Pike County mass killings during a Sunday evening press conference, but did say authorities found three marijuana grow operations at the scenes of the crime.

Reader indicated teams of law enforcement were in the woods near the crime scenes looking for evidence. Reader and DeWine would not comment on if the crimes were drug-related, but reiterated the shootings were planned and specifically targeted the Rhoden family.

Evidence found during searches around the Rhoden residences would be sent to the state crime lab, where 18 other pieces of evidence from the scenes are being analyzed, DeWine said.

Authorities have conducted 50 to 60 interviews and executed five search warrants since the scene was discovered Friday morning, DeWine said.

Reader and DeWine refused to release many more details to the public in an attempt to keep the "bad guys" from knowing the information in the possession of investigators.

After questions of public safety, Reader told residents of Pike County to arm themselves if they feared for their family's safety.

Previous reporting: With four crime scenes, the investigation is a large and complex one, Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader said Friday.

Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine's office was contacted at the outset of the investigation and sent more than 30 Bureau of Criminal Investigation agents to the scenes.

At a Friday press conference, DeWine said evidence at the scenes did not indicate any of the eight deaths were via suicide, suggesting a suspect is still at large.

Police detained a "person of interest" in Chillicothe late Friday night, but DeWine said that person was just one of 30 who were interviewed Friday in connection with the case.

Reader said the family appeared to be targeted and there was "no specific threat to the community."

A Saturday morning press release distributed by the Attorney General's Office said no arrests have been made and Ohio Gov. John Kasich had been briefed on the situation.

The Hamilton County Coroner's Office is performing the victim autopsies Saturday, the Attorney General's Office said.

The Attorney General's Office Saturday evening released the names of the victim's of Friday morning's mass shooting in Pike County.

The deceased are: Hannah Gilley, Christopher, Rhoden, Sr., Christopher Rhoden, Jr., Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden, Dana Rhoden, Gary Rhoden, Hanna Rhoden and Kenneth Rhoden.

The Attorney General's Office announced that work at each of the four crime scenes has been completed.

Authorities are urging anyone with information that could help to call 855-BCI-OHIO.

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009
Couple of thoughts.

quote:

37-year-old Dana Manley Rhoden, Christopher Rhoden's ex-wife.

That is interesting. Makes me wonder if she was an adult simply in one of the kill zones or the hitters went out of their way to get her.

Also note the ages of two of the children spared, 5 days and 6 months.

Now it was reported that the mother of the 5 day old was shot in the head in bed. That's...well a bit unusual to me. Generally babies-kids those age will keep the parents up all night. Not always (some kids are just super calm) but it's a good chance.

What I'm suggesting is that these hitters seemed to have some really good tradecraft at stealth to get most of the victims in bed with head shots. Likely these guys are so very out of the country now.


Lime Tonics posted:

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/04/marijuana_growing_operations_f.html


Each victim had been shot in the head, DeWine's office said.

One of the women was killed in her bed as her 4-day-old baby lay next to her. Two other children, a six-month-old and 3-year-old, survived the shootings.

DeWine's office released the names of the victims Saturday:

Kenneth Rhoden, 44
Christopher Rhoden, Sr., 40
Gary Rhoden, 38
Dana Rhoden, 37
Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden, 20
Hannah Gilley, 20
Hanna Rhoden, 19
Christopher Rhoden, Jr., 16

Helical Nightmares fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Apr 25, 2016

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



i bet they waited until she had the baby to make the hit. pro-life hitmen.

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

VectorSigma posted:

i bet they waited until she had the baby to make the hit. pro-life hitmen.

For a group this organized, we can assume they had very good intelligence. They may have legitimately made this decision. :shrug:

Fat Lowtax
Nov 9, 2008


"I'm willing to pay up to $1200 for a big anime titty"


Helical Nightmares posted:

For a group this organized, we can assume they had very good intelligence. They may have legitimately made this decision. :shrug:

I hope they steal the baby and raise him to be the next cartel leader

Dignity Van Houten
Jul 28, 2006

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ELLAMENNO-P


8 confirmed deaths directly linked to marijuana :smug: Your move, hippy libtards

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
Weed kills.

Sethex
Jun 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Best Giraffe posted:

hotter temperatures, shorter tempers, people outside in the heat. i don't know that it necessarily correlates to american-style gun murder-sprees, but regular ol' hot blood killings definitely rise in the summer.

Don't be gay an educate him plz #goonzinthedark4eva

the great deceiver
Sep 23, 2003

why the feds worried bout me clockin on this corner/
when there's politicians out here gettin popped in arizona
to wipe out an entire family line say what you want but that is some goddamn biblical justice

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

the great deceiver posted:

to wipe out an entire family line say what you want but that is some goddamn biblical justice

Despite myself I'm loving impressed by the tradecraft.

Probably got a good yelp review.

8/8 would hire again.

emoji
Jun 4, 2004
I'm glad they died, which is good. It's a good warning to others not to gently caress with cartels, entrenching them further in the US and also nothing of value was lost.

Fat Lowtax
Nov 9, 2008


"I'm willing to pay up to $1200 for a big anime titty"


How would the median goon interact with a cartel

Bubble Bobby
Jan 28, 2005

the great deceiver posted:

to wipe out an entire family line say what you want but that is some goddamn biblical justice

Seriously, I'm real curious to know what they did to piss off someone that bad. I mean I'm sure they were just skimming off the top or selling to competitors but drat, these guys were not messing around.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
This is about a 40 minute drive from my hometown. The area's been eaten alive by pills the last 20 years, so I wouldn't be shocked if it was related to that.

wireframeskull
Dec 3, 2006

Killers also waited until after 4/20. Very compassionate. Would appreciate getting murdered while high as balls myself if it had to happen

wireframeskull
Dec 3, 2006

shameful that we still have dog fighting in the age of pokemon

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Bug Bill Murray posted:

Seriously, I'm real curious to know what they did to piss off someone that bad. I mean I'm sure they were just skimming off the top or selling to competitors but drat, these guys were not messing around.
Cartels kill people for all kinds of stupid reasons. They could've been the competition. Or the cartel thought they owned them, i.e. produce this much or we kill you. The family got scared. Could be anything.

Cartels have usually kept a lower profile in the U.S. though so it's unusual on this scale.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Apr 25, 2016

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.
i wonder if the ex wife is the place without the grow op, maybe some poo poo rear end luck on her part

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

final2percent posted:

shameful that we still have dog fighting in the age of pokemon

You are right. We should have NEET fights to the death.

Takes up the same space as a dog really.

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Mr. Soul
Nov 5, 2011

Fat Lowtax posted:

How would the median goon interact with a cartel

There's a scene in better call Saul that is exactly that

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