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Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

prom candy posted:

Looks like I'm playing centre on my new team, any face off tips? So far I've got get low, choke up on the stick, watch the ref's hand. Anything else?

Also typically what does a centre do right after the faceoff? Is it something like:

Defensive zone loss: pick up a man
Defensive zone win: start breaking out
Offensive zone loss: forecheck or start back checking
Offensive zone win: get open for a pass/get to the slot
Neutral zone win: ??
Neutral zone loss: ??

Interfere with the other center if you win it back, so he can't get around you. Make it subtle though. Just take a step to the side he tries to go to.

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Vital Signs
Oct 17, 2007

Loqieu posted:

The most important part of faceoffs, don't forget to cheat as much as you can by moving early.
This. Learn the refs early and you'll see how much you can push it. Each guy is different in how he wants to oversee his faceoffs. Typically with the average ref you can get in a full step before the puck is dropped.

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance
Thanks! What am I looking to do early exactly? If I make my move too early don't I just miss the puck?

Loqieu
Feb 27, 2001

prom candy posted:

Thanks! What am I looking to do early exactly? If I make my move too early don't I just miss the puck?

Moving early is usually good for when you push their stick out of the way and swat the puck back, or step into the circle to block the other center out so you can win it. However if the ref is dropping the puck hard, then moving early obviously will let you get to it first.

Also although most of the time you want to move the puck back, one of the guys on my team is always some how able to tap it just behind the other center, and then skate around and grab it first. I've tried this a million times, and usually I tap it too hard or the other center blocks me from getting it. No clue how the he does it so well.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

75% of our refs Gronk spike the puck and it flies 3 feet in the air on the bounce.

bigbillystyle
Nov 11, 2003

We have Drive to Survive at home
^^Ha we've had multiple refs do this. The ones we've had do it seem to calm down after enough centers yell at them for spiking the puck and tell them all they have to do is let gravity do the work.


Loqieu posted:

Moving early is usually good for when you push their stick out of the way and swat the puck back, or step into the circle to block the other center out so you can win it. However if the ref is dropping the puck hard, then moving early obviously will let you get to it first.

Also although most of the time you want to move the puck back, one of the guys on my team is always some how able to tap it just behind the other center, and then skate around and grab it first. I've tried this a million times, and usually I tap it too hard or the other center blocks me from getting it. No clue how the he does it so well.
In my league the refs are so bad that there are multiple times where I've moved early to step into the circle and box out the other center and have the ref drop the puck while I'm basically standing where the other center should be. Out of the handful of times that has happened its been whistled dead once.

Your second comment brings up another good point in that if you lose the draw you should be ready to tie up the other center. Guys in my league try that tap move all the time and if I don't manage to catch it in my feet they get all bummed out when, like you said happens to you, I step into their path and block them to getting to the puck.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I would be a pro ref because the handful of times I've done practice faceoffs at a clinic, I spent some time figuring out how to get the puck to slap flat on the ice and just sit there.

It's pretty easy to do too, you just gotta keep it flat and give it a touch of speed so it doesn't flutter as it falls.

Maybe when I someday accept I will never be good at hockey, I can try to be a ref that will never be any good. Except at faceoffs.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


"No really man, I'm a faceoff specialist" - Bottom of your application to be an NHL ref.

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -
I want to take faceoffs as a defenseman than immediately blow up the opposing center if when I gently caress it up.

...That's cool down in scrublord division right? :v:

Bradf0rd
Jun 16, 2008

Agent of Chaos

Duke Chin posted:

I want to take faceoffs as a defenseman than immediately blow up the opposing center if when I gently caress it up.

...That's cool down in scrublord division right? :v:

Only in HZ's Thunderdome.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Hockles posted:

On faceoffs, despite what you think, never push the puck forward. It is an automatic turnover, and you aren't going to score when they have the puck. When the ref is about to drop it, either swat away or tie up the opposing center's stick, and either cleanly win it back or kick the puck back to your teammate.

You're correct on how to act on everything. As far as neutral zone goes.
If you win: get moving to an open space so you can get a pass for zone entry
If you lose: do one of 2 things, chase the puck, or cover your center; I usually chase unless the Center is a big threat to score

I push the puck forward when I know the defense is sleeping, when the center is less mobile than I, or when the game is winding down and I need the puck out of the zone and they suck at dealing with our forecheck

Beer league

I also won a faceoff tonight against a dude who is so much better than I and it was awesome because when I saw he was taking the draw I just said "gently caress" then won the draw so loving cleanly directly to the defenseman he just laughed. It felt like that stupid beer leaguer vs nhl player YouTube video

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Interfere with the other center if you win it back, so he can't get around you. Make it subtle though. Just take a step to the side he tries to go to.

This is a penalty and can get called if you are even slightly aggressive and make it clear you're being impeded. The step is obvious. Stick work is often less but if the dude is moving his feet tread lightly.

sellouts fucked around with this message at 08:43 on May 5, 2016

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
One of my favorite things to do on a faceoff is lift my stick up as the puck is falling, deflect the puck through the other center's legs, and then go around him and pick it up. It usually only works against dumb players but when it works it is awesome.

Also if I know the other teams RD sucks I'll just slap the puck as hard as I can out of the circle so it bounces off the boards to my left to try and spring my winger around said lovely RD.

You probably shouldn't actually do either of these things, I'd never taken a faceoff in a competitive game before a couple years ago and even now I hate playing center and only do it because my team makes me.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
if they're not wearing a cage just crouch down really low and whip your head and shoulders around like you're opening a giant can of pickles

because it's the cup

Vital Signs
Oct 17, 2007
I was speaking to how to cheat as a wing, didn't realize we were talking about centers. I'm way too lazy to play center.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Wing is more effort to play on faceoffs imo because you actually have to skate super hard to the point

Also bewbies gets it

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The only part of a game where wingers have to exert effort.

Lazy fuckers.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Wingers: Backchecking optional.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Backchecking is stupid, what the gently caress is the defense for if you expect wingers to do their job?

:colbert:

bgreman
Oct 8, 2005

ASK ME ABOUT STICKING WITH A YEARS-LONG LETS PLAY OF THE MOST COMPLICATED SPACE SIMULATION GAME INVENTED, PLAYING BOTH SIDES, AND SPENDING HOURS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ENSURE INTERNET STRANGERS ENJOY THEMSELVES
For offensive zone faceoffs on your forehand, always shoot. :v:

I've scored a couple goals this year that way.

Pinky Artichoke
Apr 10, 2011

Dinner has blossomed.
I backcheck like crazy on wing and I also do a lot of defensive work in the neutral zone. It makes up for being of no use whatsoever offensively.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

bewbies posted:

Also if I know the other teams RD sucks I'll just slap the puck as hard as I can out of the circle so it bounces off the boards to my left to try and spring my winger around said lovely RD.

This is called the Omaha on my team. 45% of the time, it works every time.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Furthermore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBbtxDT7r8w

Loqieu
Feb 27, 2001

There's a local team in another division with the name Dump 'N Chase that has this as their logo:

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Should have settled with "Upper Decker" given that logo.

Vital Signs
Oct 17, 2007

My stance on back-checking.

Over the years I've seen so many guys get upset over wings not covering further down low. Bitch, I'm covering the point... the center/d hosed up.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I get constantly conflicting instructions. One person tells me to stay around the top of the circles so I can help out if things get crazy in the slot, someone else tells me to stay tight on the defensive player because they don't ever want that person to get a shot off, and a third person wants to know why I wasn't flying the zone to take a stretch pass.

Of course all this advice comes from dickstains that regularly glide around the ice and stare at the puck who wouldn't recognize positional hockey if it was tattooed on the inside of their eyelids.

So gently caress 'em all. I read what's going on and do what seems to make the most sense. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't, that's how sports work.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


It's not like you're working with the confines of an organized system in beer league. Nobody is going to speak up on the bench and be like "alright guys, lets roll the Trap 1-3-1"

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Vargatron posted:

Nobody is going to speak up on the bench and be like "alright guys, lets roll the Trap 1-3-1"

Except they kind of do exactly this.

I used to take them seriously now I just tell them to gently caress off and drink my water.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
we only sort of use traditional positions and then only as general suggestion

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

im rover

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Vargatron posted:

Should have settled with "Upper Decker" given that logo.

whats the hockey reference here or is just a hi-larious name

Vital Signs posted:

Over the years I've seen so many guys get upset over wings not covering further down low. Bitch, I'm covering the point... the center/d hosed up.

you probably got lost on the cycle and didn't communicate, its ok happens to us all really

calandryll
Apr 25, 2003

Ask me where I do my best drinking!



Pillbug
It ain't beer league unless the center and BOTH wingers are on the same side. That way when your defense gets it there is no one to pass it to! That is basically story of our season this year.

This sums up the entire season in one image:

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

Bradf0rd posted:

Only in HZ's Thunderdome.

Damnit I'll never get called up to the big leagues. :negative:

Loqieu posted:

There's a local team in another division with the name Dump 'N Chase that has this as their logo:


I hate how much I like lovely beer league pun names sometimes.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

bewbies posted:

we only sort of use traditional positions and then only as general suggestion

Yeah recently the group of guys I started playing with just throw out a general "position?" before we head on for a shift and we'll go from there. I'm apparently good at defence, so many blocked shots. Not enough though.

I feel like our goalie appreciates it when I shout "LEFT SIDE LEFT SIDE" at him when its behind him and he can't see where the puck is. I say this because i'm doing it regardless of if it helps.

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -
Okay but how many times is that immediately followed up with "NO NOT YOUR LEFT MY LEFT poo poo! gently caress!!!!!"

Pleads
Jun 9, 2005

pew pew pew


stage left

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

All the goalies I've played with so far love it when players tell them what's going on. They're basically playing tank commander and can't see poo poo unless it's right in front of them.

They all seem to want slightly different treatment though, so a chat beforehand helps.

Hockles
Dec 25, 2007

Resident of Camp Blood
Crystal Lake

Pleads posted:

stage left

Michigan left

Nitramster
Mar 10, 2006
THERE'S NO TIME!!!
Well I'm finally feeling pretty good on my knee that took the slap-shot 2 months ago. It's still a little deformed with fluid but I have full range of movement and it only hurts if I fully crouch down and kneel on it at the same time, so I think I'm gonna hit a free skate (blegh) or a stick and puck when I get the chance and see if I'll be good for the upcoming Aluminum Ice Angeles season. I was gonna sub next Saturday but I guess it's almost over and subs are only allowed if you've subbed at least once.

Anyway I learned a valuable lesson about not cheeping out on gear if you're playing with anyone that can wind up a proper shot, and get to the doctor if the swelling doesn't go down after a week.

sellouts posted:

quote:

something about impeding the other center
This is a penalty and can get called if you are even slightly aggressive and make it clear you're being impeded. The step is obvious. Stick work is often less but if the dude is moving his feet tread lightly.

I have been doing this every single face-off I take, win or lose, I've never been called for anything or even warned. Occasionally I've gotten the "play the puck guys" when tying up the other centers stick, but never anything when I clearly get in his way (because they're always faster than me, it's my only play)

Nitramster fucked around with this message at 02:53 on May 6, 2016

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sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Nitramster posted:

I have been doing this every single face-off I take, win or lose, I've never been called for anything or even warned. Occasionally I've gotten the "play the puck guys" when tying up the other centers stick, but never anything when I clearly get in his way (because they're always faster than me, it's my only play)

It's a bad habit and honestly y'all are falling all over the place anyways. Tread lightly but if you have people who can actually step into plays and move quickly off of the faceoff its interference. Not saying it'll get called but a bad habit.

Also how many faceoffs are even won that cleanly/quickly anyways?

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