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Completely blew my mind, it was a board game in 1980 although Sid Meier says it didn't influence him (bollocks)quote:The story of Civ's genesis is neither simple nor straightforward. It's clear that a large confluence of inspirations ultimately combined in Meier's brain to form Civilization. As popular culture continually feeds on itself, the ingredients and influences that make up any particular work tend to be varied and complicated. In this case, add three parts Risk, two parts Sim City, one part Railroad Tycoon, and a heaping teaspoon of Sid Meier's design genius. Stir in a little Bruce Shelley for taste, set your oven to "Wild Bill Stealey," and out comes Civilization.  Then the board game was rereleased  Anyway I think I'll get the board game, sounds fun
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board games are for children
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May 16, 2016 12:10
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Yeah, it was adapted into the computer game Advanced Civilization, op.
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May 16, 2016 12:12
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Lol if you have any friends that don't require you to press "Quick Game"
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May 16, 2016 12:15
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hang on. gonna read them words
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May 16, 2016 12:17
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a goon developed one of the civilization expansions too lol. she posts over in the traditional games boardgaming thread
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May 16, 2016 12:18
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:hang on. gonna read them words nope. i was mistaken
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May 16, 2016 12:18
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:board games are for children being a child owned
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May 16, 2016 12:27
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Candyland is not a board game
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May 16, 2016 12:30
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Node posted:being a child owned I have a confession to make: I bought you that AV cos you said you didn't like it. Sorry mate.
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May 16, 2016 12:43
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A lot of board games are more fun to play on the computer. See also: XCOM.
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May 16, 2016 14:02
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there is no need to play board games. we live in the age of electricity
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May 16, 2016 14:25
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someone buy me an avatar of a skeleton wearing a buckle hat
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May 16, 2016 14:44
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notZaar posted:A lot of board games are more fun to play on the computer. See also: XCOM. Xcom boardgame is just a computer game that comes with some cardboard toys
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May 16, 2016 14:51
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No, I'm not talking about the boardgame adaptation of the video game. I'm saying that XCOM the videogame is played just like a boardgame but it's a lot more fun on the PC when the computer can roll the dice for you and keep track of all the stats.
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quote:In this case, add three parts Risk, two parts Sim City, one part Railroad Tycoon, except Civ has pretty much nothing to do with those at all except very passing similarity maybe to Risk and Sim City idk I buy that Sid Meier got the general idea from the board game and then expanded on it. It's not like 'game involving going from early man to modern age' is that wildly unique/innovative is it? Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 16:23 on May 16, 2016 |
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May 16, 2016 16:21
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I've been playing as the African river lord guy and just loving stomp all these idiots
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May 16, 2016 16:24
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Smash it Smash hit posted:I've been playing as the African river lord guy and just loving stomp all these idiots hell yeah. HELL YEAH.
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May 16, 2016 16:45
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Moridin920 posted:idk I buy that Sid Meier got the general idea from the board game and then expanded on it. It's not like 'game involving going from early man to modern age' is that wildly unique/innovative is it?
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notZaar posted:No, I'm not talking about the boardgame adaptation of the video game. I'm saying that XCOM the videogame is played just like a boardgame but it's a lot more fun on the PC when the computer can roll the dice for you and keep track of all the stats. yeah agreed! the best computer games are just board games that would be too tedious to play without the aid of a computer IMHO. like Heroes of Might and Magic 3, or Alpha Centurai, master of orion, or Nethack (and basically all Rogue-likes in general)
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May 16, 2016 18:46
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more like bored game -nefarious 2.0
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May 16, 2016 18:52
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board games are for poor people and the elderly
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May 16, 2016 18:53
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actually there's tons of fun and cool board games out there, it's just that the most accessible slash popular ones are the most boring to play usually like Monopoly sucks actually for numerous reasons (no agency on the part of the player, total luck, optimal strategy is to just buy everything, if you lose you're totally out and have to wait for everyone else to finish the game), but for some reason it is a household name. Even Risk is pretty simplistic but of course half your friends 'don't get it' so lol.
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May 16, 2016 18:56
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Basically if someone who isn't "in" to board games knows it by name then it's a trash game for idiots.
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Are you saying that Chess is a trash game for casuals?
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notZaar posted:Are you saying that Chess is a trash game for casuals? Chess is boring garbage. The mechanics are so limiting that it's really just a competition to see which player is a better beep boop computer. It's more math and memorization than actual strategy. But no it's not for casuals. It's for tryhards wasting their effort on a boring game that is seen as deep just because it's old.
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Chomp8645 posted:Chess is boring garbage. The mechanics are so limiting that it really become a competition to see who can act more like a computer. It's more math and memorization than actual strategy. If you're upset that it doesn't have cool graphics and pew-pew noises, GOG just rereleased BattleChess. Perhaps that can take off some of that xcore gamer edge from your attitude, mister.
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BattleChess is good because it dispenses with the facade that there is anything interesting about chess and supplies the target audience (children who can't afford good games) with something to look at instead.
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I tried to come up with a rebuttal but nothing's coming. Chess is good, dammit! That said, playing the game since I was six years old to now, I still cannot consistently beat a computer on "average" difficulty and my Chess.com record is pretty much the same. I love Sid Meier's games but holy poo poo he loves to slap his name all over everything. According to this, he didn't even come up with the idea for Civ and Alpha Cen was just Dune without sandworms. Still a great game. I do lament never being able to play Gettysburg. Apparently it was highly thought of in its day (somewhere around 20 years ago).
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mods hear my plea: ban everyone who posted itt, including me
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phasmid posted:I tried to come up with a rebuttal but nothing's coming. Chess is good, dammit! That said, playing the game since I was six years old to now, I still cannot consistently beat a computer on "average" difficulty and my Chess.com record is pretty much the same. He's not wrong about Chess being more math/memorization than actual strategy but that really only applies on the VERY high levels competitively speaking so... he's not actually right in terms of every day play between normal people. It's a good game, if it wasn't it wouldn't have been around so long. Though it is true that if you read Chess books they are just basically 95% move for move replays of famous games that are meant to just be memorized so you know what to do in a similar situation in your own games in the future. It's probably not a 'great' game though, in the sense that I'd much rather play something else with some friends most of the time. And it is also true that people who are good at Chess seem to think that makes them geniuses in general which is annoying.
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loving DO IT
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phasmid posted:I love Sid Meier's games but holy poo poo he loves to slap his name all over everything. According to this, he didn't even come up with the idea for Civ and Alpha Cen was just Dune without sandworms. Still a great game. I do lament never being able to play Gettysburg. Apparently it was highly thought of in its day (somewhere around 20 years ago).
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I also like the game of 'LIFE'. Spinning that disc never gets old.
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There was a board game made based on the Firaxis Civilization license, was that any good?
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I have 3 cards, 1 is hides, and they are worth 3.
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I will punch you in the jaw if you claim that ivory resource. I found it first it's right next to me , come on.
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jBrereton posted:I mean it was science fiction but I don't think it was much like Dune, it was more like a not-awful version of the Red Mars series (as well as really being Bryan Reynolds' thing more than Sid's). Oh, they borrowed from a lot of good older scifi, but they had plenty of F. Herbert's stuff (including direct quotations). Never read any of the *color* Mars books, but I heard they were p good. It also took inspo from Verner Venge and others. Moridin920 posted:It's probably not a 'great' game though, in the sense that I'd much rather play something else with some friends most of the time. And it is also true that people who are good at Chess seem to think that makes them geniuses in general which is annoying. I agree with your post, but I still think we should honor the game for being the genesis of modern games.
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I inherited both the old and new versions from my friends after they left their board game collection with me due to moving cross-country by car. That said I've only played the new version once a few years ago and remember combat being kinda dumb and little else. Doubt I'll actually play either since they both take forever and if I'm gonna play a long-rear end game I'd rather it be something like Twilight Imperium instead, and if I wanted to play a Civ game I'd play Through the Ages or one of the video games instead. Neat to have them for novelty, I guess.
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phasmid posted:I agree with your post, but I still think we should honor the game for being the genesis of modern games. Yeah that's fine. It's not stupid that people ever played Chess. Things improve over time and they have to start somewhere. But you could also honor the horse for being the "genesis of modern transportation". Yet if someone tried to get a horse for the purpose of riding it to work everyday when they could have a car they'd have to be an idiot. The horse is obsolete and inferior to a car as a method of transport in basically every way. Chess is the same way. It historically interesting and had an undeniable impact on the evolution of human culture. But next to modern games it just sucks. And much like a snooty Southern California horse owner, the only reason most people put their time into it because they mistakenly think it's a sign of class or intelligence.
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