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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

checksin posted:

Wouldn't the people at the watch party actually be better viewers than people at home? They'd have to watch the commercials that NBC is trying to sell because they can't change the channel or go get a beer from the fridge

They don't count as TV ratings viewers though.

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fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
wont someone think of the tv ratings :smith:

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


On the one hand, I get NBC's frustration, we're down to one team they love showing all the time to get the bigger 'traditional' hockey television market and they could get eliminated tonight. Still, events like watch parties are basically the perfect way to get casual fans into the game, and the NHL desperately needs that right now. A big rear end outdoor watch party in these entertainment districts is tailor-made to get more people backing a team (and the sport as a whole) and if you're in a part of the country like Tampa where the weather lets you pretty much do this all drat season, you'd be stupid not to do them.

checksin
Nov 23, 2006

I joined the new sensation, the #RXT REVOLUTION~!

:chillout:

he knows...
I approve strongly of NBC and Rogers not getting what they want, at all ever

Brandon Proust
Jun 22, 2006

"Like many intellectuals, he was incapable of scoring a simple goal in a simple way"

checksin posted:

I approve strongly of NBC and Rogers not getting what they want, at all ever

:same:

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots
So I know we all agree this is terribly dumb rationalization, but how does it make more sense to let the fans know to just go watch at a local bar? Those TVs count for ratings but those TVs will be on the game ANYWAY and NBC could always, I don't know, show a picture of the crowd outside the stadium and say "Oh yeah, and these 8,000 people were watching as well" to whoever the gently caress even cares about TV shares anymore. Advertisers? Again - "Hey we do this thing where 8,000 people are all stuck outside and their total focus is on the gigantic screen with your product for erectile dysfunction emblazened on it."

Goddamn, NBC

Top Hats Monthly
Jun 22, 2011


People are people so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully blink blink recall STOP IT YOU POSH LITTLE SHIT
How cheap do you think SCF tickets will be if its TBL vs SJS?

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!

Top Hats Monthly posted:

How cheap do you think SCF tickets will be if its TBL vs SJS?

Hopefully cheap enough for me to finagle going there

Top Hats Monthly
Jun 22, 2011


People are people so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully blink blink recall STOP IT YOU POSH LITTLE SHIT

Veskit posted:

Hopefully cheap enough for me to finagle going there

You're a sharks fan? I like your odds less than Tampa based on how the cheapest I can see is $490. I think Tampas will cost less

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Flyinglemur posted:

So I know we all agree this is terribly dumb rationalization, but how does it make more sense to let the fans know to just go watch at a local bar? Those TVs count for ratings but those TVs will be on the game ANYWAY and NBC could always, I don't know, show a picture of the crowd outside the stadium and say "Oh yeah, and these 8,000 people were watching as well" to whoever the gently caress even cares about TV shares anymore. Advertisers? Again - "Hey we do this thing where 8,000 people are all stuck outside and their total focus is on the gigantic screen with your product for erectile dysfunction emblazened on it."

Goddamn, NBC

That wouldn't work. Advertisers don't care about weird little exceptions like that.



The thing is, 8000 people is literally insignificant. A single ratings point represents about 1.2m households, and they only report to 1 decimal place. An 8000 shift up or down doesn't show. There's nothing to gain for NBC here, they're just being dicks.

(Plus some of those are going to be familiars who would only count as one household anyway. And most of them, if not all, are not going to be Nielsen families.)

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Isn't the entire NHL viewing market basically a rounding error to begin with?

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots

Aphrodite posted:

The thing is, 8000 people is literally insignificant. A single ratings point represents about 1.2m households, and they only report to 1 decimal place. An 8000 shift up or down doesn't show. There's nothing to gain for NBC here, they're just being dicks.

(Plus some of those are going to be familiars who would only count as one household anyway. And most of them, if not all, are not going to be Nielsen families.)

I understand that, but a real marketing person could STILL spin it to make it work to their advantage and the NHL could add it to their marketing crap along with the 12 outdoor games every year and so on and so on. Make the game more accessible and the people will come and they will bring money because all the cool kids wear hockey jerseys.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
I'm not saying Bettman has spent his entire 20+ year career as Commissioner actively discouraging people from wanting to watch hockey. I'm just saying everything Bettman has done in the past 20+ years is exactly what someone who wants to actively discourage people from wanting to watch hockey would do.

It's actually pretty amazing.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

The Blues get the Stanley Cup of my heart for knocking out the Hawks.

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

yellowcar posted:

The Blues get the Stanley Cup of my heart for knocking out the Hawks.

Therrien gets the Stanley Cup of my heart :colbert:

tofes
Mar 31, 2011

#1 Milpitas Dave and Buster's superfan since 2013

Top Hats Monthly posted:

How cheap do you think SCF tickets will be if its TBL vs SJS?

Ticket prices are pretty expensive in San Jose

DuhSal
Aug 16, 2004

I will, brother. I promise.



Pillbug
Sharks beat LA in 5, Nashville in 7 and St. Louis in 6. Now they just need a sweep in the SCF for the series cycle.

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
e: not my thread anymore

WouldDesk
Dec 26, 2009

DJExile posted:

Watch parties like that are loving awesome and clamping down on them is the best loving way to chase fans off. Goddamnit NHL.

To hear the NHL is as incompetent as the NBA is not surprising just annoying.

OKC Thunder also had "Thunder Alley" during their last NBA Finals appearance. It was such a huge loving success that drew in tens of thousands of ADDITIONAL fans to downtown OKCs entertainment district outside the arena, huge success for food trucks, merchandise vendors, and made it affordable for large families to experience NBA basketball with other fans that the NBA/Thunder decided that let's keep this and grow this how amazing for the league, city, team they better squash that poo poo IMMEDIATELY because a few local poo poo chain restaurants said it hindered their local businesses by having an additional 30,000 people to come to their local businesses.

There was also a completely unrelated shooting down the road around the same time near a movie theater and that was part of the blame to end it. Big push lately to bring it back when they make the finals. Hope they do.

David Stern and Gary Bettman love their fans, they just happen love sucking the cranks of a few local business people even more.

WouldDesk fucked around with this message at 20:44 on May 26, 2016

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

Goatman Sacks posted:

e: not my thread anymore

Did you know you can actually still post?

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002

DuhSal posted:

Sharks beat LA in 5, Nashville in 7 and St. Louis in 6. Now they just need a sweep in the SCF for the series cycle.

If the Pens win tonight, they'll be in the same situation, having beaten the Rangers in 5, Caps in 6, and Lightning in 7.

What I'm saying is that the Lightning will win.

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Aurora posted:

Did you know you can actually still post?

Don't you remember? He doesn't know

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

ALFbrot posted:

If the Pens win tonight, they'll be in the same situation, having beaten the Rangers in 5, Caps in 6, and Lightning in 7.

What I'm saying is that the Lightning will win.
Pens maybe 0-7 at home in Game 7 when they lose Game 6

But Pens are 2-0 in home game 7's when they win Game 6 :getin:

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Historically are teams right around .500 either way whether they win Game 6 or lose Game 6? Does anyone have that data? I don't recall TV networks bringing it up every time there's a Game 7 so I assume that means the data is uninteresting.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.
The Lightning just moved the watch party a few blocks further (to the same spot they were for the Redwings series) and are calling it a "Block Party" problem solved.

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
SAS quick, should I shave/trim my playoff beard for my aunt's wedding? Or will it be my fault if I do and they lose

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
after the favor he's shown to sun belt teams gary bettman had to shore up his heel credentials to make sure he'd still get booed during the cup presentation

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

RC Cola posted:

SAS quick, should I shave/trim my playoff beard for my aunt's wedding? Or will it be my fault if I do and they lose

do you like your aunt

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Fateo McMurray posted:

do you like your aunt

Yeah but I also like the Sharks

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.

RC Cola posted:

SAS quick, should I shave/trim my playoff beard for my aunt's wedding? Or will it be my fault if I do and they lose

It's your fault either way.

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

Habibi posted:

HIRE DEBOER!
HIRE DEBOER!
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HIREDEBOER!
HIREDEBOER!
HIIRDEOER!
HIODEOR!
HODOR!
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This makes me so happy.

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

RC Cola posted:

Yeah but I also like the Sharks

Is this her first wedding

edit: if it is, shave. if not, go sporting the most magnificent beard you can, wear a Thornton jersey, and make sure you whip your cock out a few times

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Fateo McMurray posted:

Is this her first wedding

edit: if it is, shave. if not, go sporting the most magnificent beard you can, wear a Thornton jersey, and make sure you whip your cock out a few times

Second wedding. Heck. She's my uncle's ex wife.
OK I'll trim the beard and wear a Thornton jersey over my suit to the reception.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Stamkos is playing tonight.



Stamkos is going to die on the ice.

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.

grack posted:

Stamkos is playing tonight.



Stamkos is going to die on the ice.

Letang in the Crease with a Crosscheck

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Phil :unsmith:

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
save us san jose

Pungry
Feb 26, 2011

JUST PICK ONE. ANY ONE.
Guys I'm so loving happy right now

AegisP
Oct 5, 2008

:unsmith:

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JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

fits posted:

save us san jose

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