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Were they meant to help miners stay aligned without burning out of mining laser range? Or was that a myth
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Ambaire posted:
Get rid of the mining upgrade - replace it with a module to boost damage (weapon upgrades - check for a lowslot item to boost your guns/drones). As you're going for all out damage, you'll want a Magnetic Stabiliser I (unless you've got skills for T2). You may also want to give up on the tank module altogether, and switch to a tracking computer to make sure you hit your target more often (putting more damage on the target). After that you can consider whether to stick with the AB or switch to an MWD for more speed. E: if you have the space to fit it a neutraliser or NOS might be worth fitting in your utility highslot.
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Jun 15, 2016 08:49
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frozenpussy posted:Were they meant to help miners stay aligned without burning out of mining laser range? Or was that a myth Their purpose was to make hole rolling easier after an earlier patch put ships jumping through wormholes out of jump range back. They are used for mining though. And ratting carriers.
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Jun 15, 2016 09:06
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AAPsel posted:Their purpose was to make hole rolling easier after an earlier patch put ships jumping through wormholes out of jump range back. They are used for mining though. And ratting carriers. Really? I haven't heard that explanation before. It kind of makes sense they would let you increase mass after adding the spawn distance drawback, but that mass is only marginally better after an oversized prop.
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Jun 15, 2016 09:09
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frozenpussy posted:Really? I haven't heard that explanation before. It kind of makes sense they would let you increase mass after adding the spawn distance drawback, but that mass is only marginally better after an oversized prop. It also doubles the added mass of an oversized prop mod. Edit: Oh, reading over the introduction post again it was meant to help both miners and wormholers. I guess we're both right. you feelin fucky fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Jun 15, 2016 09:23
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frozenpussy posted:Really? I haven't heard that explanation before. It kind of makes sense they would let you increase mass after adding the spawn distance drawback, but that mass is only marginally better after an oversized prop.
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Jun 15, 2016 09:23
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Oh, that's different. I didn't know it doubled the mass addition of prop mods.
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Jun 15, 2016 09:25
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LemonDrizzle posted:A 100% increase in mass is not "marginal", especially on rolling BS where you can't fit oversized prop mods. what's the quotes for
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Jun 15, 2016 09:30
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mcjomar posted:Get rid of the mining upgrade - replace it with a module to boost damage (weapon upgrades - check for a lowslot item to boost your guns/drones). (if you read my previous post, you'd know this isn't my first character :P) Been playing for over 7 years off and on, I know how to fit ships. Just messing around on a trial. The 'fearsome fit' comment was a joke. Edit: That being said, when did they start giving new characters all these different skills? Noticed thermodynamics was trained to 1 already. This is my first new character since .. 2009 or so, though. Ambaire fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Jun 15, 2016 12:47
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Ahh, whoops, my bad. RE: newbie skills, yeah, I think they added that with the last alteration to the newbie skillset, which was (relatively) recent. When I started it was the "pick a bunch of options and that informs your skills". Then they changed it up to be "yeah, you'll just get the basics, and a boost in training speed until you get past 1.8m sp". Now it's "here's a bunch of the basic core skills trained up mostly to t1 level, with a few gaps in there, good luck". I don't know if the skill training speed boost is still in effect (I think not?). For some reason they've decided to forget that career agents exist though, which I think is a bad move as they give newbies a lot of extra free stuff, and some vague pointers - better than the "opportunities" we've got now though.
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Jun 15, 2016 14:28
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LemonDrizzle posted:A 100% increase in mass is not "marginal", especially on rolling BS where you can't fit oversized prop mods. Is there any way to fit a capital prop mod to any battleship? (I suppose I could just play around with EFT, but  )
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Jun 15, 2016 17:10
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Ynglaur posted:Is there any way to fit a capital prop mod to any battleship? (I suppose I could just play around with EFT, but No because CCP has no idea how to balance eve CCP took the lazy way out and simply made it impossible to fit cap mods to subcaps. Same way they 'balanced' entosis links, Higgs boson rigs, and sov warfare in general. The CCP of today could never make an eve 2 because they idea of balance modules based on pg and CPU is too hard for them so they just code certain modules so they don't work on certain hulls. It's the parenting equiv of "because I said so"
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Jun 15, 2016 17:25
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Ynglaur posted:Is there any way to fit a capital prop mod to any battleship? (I suppose I could just play around with EFT, but Nope, specifically restricted. 
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Jun 15, 2016 17:27
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Actually that was mean, eve 2 would be very balanced but it would consist of nothing but frigates, have built in matchmaking, all ships would be free once unlocked and the only way to unlock pirate ships would be paying $200
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Jun 15, 2016 17:34
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Right so following some of the advice here I decided to mine in motion to piss off Catalysts, so I set one of my three to orbit the other while the others follow him, 190ms swan dance...
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Jun 15, 2016 17:59
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If you're orbiting that close it will have minimal effect. Just mine with a procurer with a DCU, shield extender, and Kim/therm hardeners. If you orbit at 10km off the asteroid and afk I will either a) put my cov ops on the opposite side of the asteroid from you at 10km and warp my squad to the cov ops about ten seconds before you get there, or b) just warp squad to the signature a few times until I get the range I want. All retrievers are dead when they undock.
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Jun 15, 2016 18:51
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bluegoon posted:Right so following some of the advice here I decided to mine in motion to piss off Catalysts, so I set one of my three to orbit the other while the others follow him, 190ms swan dance... A much more effective tactic is to pre-spawn CONCORD. Have a spare character on one account who logs in, undocks in a newbie ship, and attacks one of your characters in the belt to spawn CONCORD. Dock, switch characters to your miner, and now you have a handy police force sitting right on top of you. So long as they're within 150km they'll respond instantly to aggression, and if they warp away you have advance notice of incoming ganks.
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Jun 15, 2016 19:41
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Can a revenant fit mining lasers?
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Jun 15, 2016 19:42
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code:Modulated Strip Miner II fits fine with no issues, but I'm still training the reprocessing skills for them.
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Jun 15, 2016 19:47
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Reverand maynard posted:No because CCP has no idea how to balance eve CCP took the lazy way out and simply made it impossible to fit cap mods to subcaps. Same way they 'balanced' entosis links, Higgs boson rigs, and sov warfare in general. The CCP of today could never make an eve 2 because they idea of balance modules based on pg and CPU is too hard for them so they just code certain modules so they don't work on certain hulls. It's the parenting equiv of "because I said so" That's really a shame. I think the occasional misbalance makes for interesting, emergent gameplay. So long as you're willing to quickly re-balance something, having something out-of-whack for a few weeks isn't a big deal. I doubt the original designers ever intended for over-sized prop mods, but they've made for some very interesting fits over the years, and other than the occasional things like T3s, they've been fairly balanced.
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Moddington posted:A much more effective tactic is to pre-spawn CONCORD. Have a spare character on one account who logs in, undocks in a newbie ship, and attacks one of your characters in the belt to spawn CONCORD. Dock, switch characters to your miner, and now you have a handy police force sitting right on top of you. So long as they're within 150km they'll respond instantly to aggression, and if they warp away you have advance notice of incoming ganks. I thought pre-spawning concord was considered a banning offense for exploiting game mechanics.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:02
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Ambaire posted:I thought pre-spawning concord was considered a banning offense for exploiting game mechanics. no, only evading concord killing you once you've engaged them is an exploit.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:03
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Yeah, just checked the EVE Support centre, only delaying CONCORD killing you (e.g. hyperdunking with shuttles, abandoned drones) or somehow evading CONCORD is an exploit.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:10
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So if I decide that I maybe might possibly want to play eve again for small periods of time per day who the what gently caress do I join E: Also I think dickbong has my stuff christ Enemu fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Jun 15, 2016 23:20
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Enemu posted:So if I decide that I maybe might possibly want to play eve again for small periods of time per day who the what gently caress do I join groon probably. or hv. or darius. or pl. or GSF, whatever. Hell, rejoin TDSIN, they seem loving terrible though. Richard's in GROON but apparently AFK
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Jun 15, 2016 23:53
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Ambaire posted:I thought pre-spawning concord was considered a banning offense for exploiting game mechanics. It's biomassing the throwaway alts to "reset" their sec status that gets people banned.
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Jun 16, 2016 01:02
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Enemu posted:So if I decide that I maybe might possibly want to play eve again for small periods of time per day who the what gently caress do I join Yeah, pretty sure bong said he has your stuff in a high sec station.
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Jun 16, 2016 01:50
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oh my god dj recruited an actual renter corp into his alliance holy poo poo
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Jun 16, 2016 03:15
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So did we, but we didn't write an op saying lol we're the true goons gently caress reddit gently caress pubbies
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Jun 16, 2016 03:30
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:So did we, but we didn't write an op saying lol we're the true goons gently caress reddit gently caress pubbies that's my point. DJ's alliance: for true goons (tm) and renters too I guess edit: also if you want to talk about bad killboards god drat ten dollar bond is almost screamingllama tier. "delve is for goons (feeding other delve residents)" PookBear fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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Reverand maynard posted:that's my point.  Glad I made the right choice and rejoined GW. At least now I can get myself onto multi-billion ISK killmails while also welping everything I undock.
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Bloody Pom posted:
Goons don't undock, though? (Potential  territory here, I know)
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Jun 16, 2016 05:03
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ullerrm posted:Goons don't undock, though? (Potential Apparently some do, even if it's just for highsec ganking. There were more than this one but zkill is having CREST issues like everything else apparently https://zkillboard.com/kill/54630047/
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Reverand maynard posted:that's my point. i assumed thats what you were getting at, i was explaining for the people playing at home
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What is a good Gallente ship to gate camp in? While I wait for Karmafleet to accept (or reject) my application, I'm still in my Corp that organizes gate camps. I'm still using my Caracal but I think I should upgrade to either a Gallente battlecruiser or battleship. Any ships you'd recommend?
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Jun 16, 2016 06:22
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are you dps or tackle or what
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Nazareth posted:What is a good Gallente ship to gate camp in? thanatos
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Eris is the worst of the interdictors, but it's still an interdictor, and those are always welcome for gatecamps. Magus is the Gallente Jump Destroyer, and is the third most useful ship to have on a gatecamp. Daredevils and Vigilants require Minmatar Frigate/Cruiser skills, but if you can fly it, those are the second most useful ships to have on a gatecamp. Daredevil moreso, since it's fast enough to burn for a decloak on anybody trying to slip your camp. e: there's also an instant-locking Keres, which is really useful for the ~40km point and long scram. Magic Rabbit Hat fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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My keyboard has macro functions, to what extent are we allowed to use them? Specifically mining wise?
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