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Well Iwata said he will strongly consider making the next system region free, so wet just have to hope he has enough influence in the various meetings.
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greatn posted:Well Iwata said he will strongly consider making the next system region free, so wet just have to hope he has enough influence in the various meetings. 
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Jun 19, 2016 17:28
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If the NX doesn't have achievements Nintendo is dead
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Jun 19, 2016 17:30
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Katana Gomai posted:If the NX doesn't have achievements Nintendo is dead Doomed, even, so doomed.
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Jun 19, 2016 17:35
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Katana Gomai posted:If the NX doesn't have achievements Nintendo is dead gently caress you!
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Jun 19, 2016 17:38
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Delays wouldn't be a huge issue if region locking weren't a thing.
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Jun 19, 2016 18:06
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Katana Gomai posted:If the NX doesn't have achievements Nintendo is dead They should do the unthinkable and tie achievements to financial rewards.
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Jun 19, 2016 18:15
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Iwata is credited at the end of Kirby: Planet Robobot.
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Jun 19, 2016 18:16
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I also hope the NX has achievements https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70Bb64RMU2Q
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Mercury Crusader posted:I also hope the NX has achievements I un-ironically do. I like cheevos :-(
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Jun 19, 2016 18:30
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Xenoblade Chronicles X pops "Achievement Unlocked" on my screen so long it's almost spammy.
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Jun 19, 2016 18:34
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Trophies are the best and Nintendo clearly knows this since so many of their games include some sort of achievement system. Just make it account-wide already, and add some lovely trophies to the VC releases, too.
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Jun 19, 2016 18:44
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More than trophies, the NX needs a party system and voice chat.
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Jun 19, 2016 18:45
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Put the trophies on miiverse Nintendo
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Dr Cheeto posted:Put the trophies on miiverse Nintendo But Hyrule Warriors already does this 
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Jun 19, 2016 18:47
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Clearly I need to buy that immediately, then.
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Jun 19, 2016 18:48
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I think stamps were supposed to be Nintendo's answer to trophies/achievements. I know I went hog wild with the lucky cat Mario stamp you got for beating Champion Road in 3D World.
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Jun 19, 2016 19:25
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greatn posted:Well Iwata said he will strongly consider making the next system region free, so wet just have to hope he has enough influence in the various meetings. The fact that you can just bypass the region check with homebrew means it's purely baked into the firmware so I'm pretty sure they could disable it in a firmware update to the 3DS, if they weren't idiots. 
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Lemon-Lime posted:The fact that you can just bypass the region check with homebrew means it's purely baked into the firmware so I'm pretty sure they could disable it in a firmware update to the 3DS, if they weren't idiots. It's not as simple as that, actually. It's been shown that certain games behave rather weirdly when running on different systems. Check the compatibility page of the old hack regionthree to see some examples. Additionally, DLC and patches are forced to the specific region's eShop so that wouldn't work at all without some major eShop restructuring, technically and legally (other company lawyers would throw a fit). Iwata knew they had hosed up, which is why he mentioned they would consider not loving it up again on the next system because it's not as easy as switching a flip right now and, bang, region free without issues.
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Lemon-Lime posted:The fact that you can just bypass the region check with homebrew means it's purely baked into the firmware so I'm pretty sure they could disable it in a firmware update to the 3DS, if they weren't idiots. There's probably legal and trade issues. They have it set up one way and to change it they'll need to change arrangements and contacts.
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Region locking sucks and is always, always a move that benefits companies more than consumers. My DS library has a ton of games from both Japan and America, and I really resent that I don't have that option with the 3DS. But seeing how piracy ran rampant through the DS generation I suppose a corporate backlash was inevitable. As far as I know 3DS piracy only exists on firmware from several years ago and the scene is a fraction of the size it was on the DS, so I guess they achieved their goal.
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Region locking had nothing to do with the 3DS' better anti-piracy features. For one thing, its firmware is upgradable, which the poor DS had no means to do. Nintendo started region locking their portables with the DSi, when they introduced what would later become the eShop, but back then was just the DSiWare store.
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Jun 19, 2016 22:04
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Not to derail but I just want to say that Rhythm Heaven is seriously good and fun.
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No one is allowed to talk about Rhythm Heaven until October 21st
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Help Im Alive posted:No one is allowed to talk about Rhythm Heaven until October 21st I sure do like Rhythm Heaven
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Slur posted:I sure do like Rhythm Heaven I played it for two hours before work today!
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Inzombiac posted:I played it for two hours before work today! Did you enjoy your Rhythm Heaven experience?
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Slur posted:Did you enjoy your Rhythm Heaven experience? Quite a lot. I'm glad I don't have to wait until some impossible time like October.
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jivjov posted:Glad someone else gets it. loving lol that you think this is a legitimate point. what is the possible reason for the delay? how much dialogue does rhythm loving heaven have to translate? they're not gonna make each song region-friendly.
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Jun 19, 2016 22:48
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It feels great to be in America, where a man is free. Free to purchase and play Rhythm Heaven Megamix. God bless Reggie Fils-Aime and the United States of America
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Nintendo is region locked because of the online store. They don't want the customers getting confused and getting the wrong language or game. It's paternalistic Japanese corporate culture of playing it safe. Also I suspect there is also the line of thinking that Japanese consumer buys a Japanese system to play Japanese language games and that's that.
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Yeah being free in America is great. I'm free to not buy Rhythm Heaven because it's available instead of being unable to buy it because it's simply unavailable! Freedom!
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hadji murad posted:Nintendo is region locked because of the online store. They don't want the customers getting confused and getting the wrong language or game. It's paternalistic Japanese corporate culture of playing it safe. This is patently wrong. I can go on the eShop right now and buy a Pokémon game in Italian, German, Spanish or French. They're all distinct versions, each with their own price tag and it's very easy to buy the "wrong one" if you just look at the cover in a glance, because the descriptions for the Spanish version are still in your native language wherever you're from.
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hadji murad posted:Nintendo is region locked because of the online store. They don't want the customers getting confused and getting the wrong language or game. It's paternalistic Japanese corporate culture of playing it safe. If Sony and MS can segregate the online stores by region so can Nintendo. In theory.
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Party Meiser posted:Yeah being free in America is great. I'm free to not buy Rhythm Heaven because it's available instead of being unable to buy it because it's simply unavailable! I disagree with your choices but I will fight to defend your right to make them 
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I'm annoyed about the region-locking as well, because I often want to play games in Not-English but the North American version will only allow English and Spanish (because the millions of French-speaking North Americans don't count, I guess). I'm looking forward to the 3DS releases of Dragon Quest VII and VIII in the West, and I am really hoping that the NA version has English/French/Italian/German/Spanish options like DQ IV, V, VI and IX did for the DS. If the NA version only has English and maybe Spanish I wouldn't be able to import a potentially multilingual European version unless I want to buy another 3DS (I don't). I'm not sure about anything, though. It took a lot of begging to get Enix to bring those ports to the western hemisphere and they may well have just put them only in English regardless of region. Both games, but especially VII, are loaded with text to translate and what kept them from porting them for so long was the huge cost of translating all of that text. I could hardly blame them if they just said "Let's put this in the potentially most profitable language and then call it a done deal, lads"
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Sudden Javelin posted:how much dialogue does rhythm loving heaven have to translate? A lot more than you'd expect actually in this entry
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Translating programs can be pretty difficult past just the "translating text" stage (not that most of the problems in the video apply to a fixed script)
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The EU version of Rhythm Heaven DS has new French/Italian/German/Spanish versions of each song but they'll never do that again. Here's a side-by-side with all the different versions of the staff roll tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcrJIN7fcBA
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:The EU version of Rhythm Heaven DS has new French/Italian/German/Spanish versions of each song but they'll never do that again. I'm not the biggest fan of j-pop, but the Italian and German versions sound pretty boss.
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