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| Remain - Keep Britane Strong! |
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328 | 15.40% |
| Leave - Take Are Sovreignity Back! |
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115 | 5.40% |
| Remain - But only because Brexit are crazy |
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506 | 23.76% |
| Leave - But only because the EU is terrible |
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157 | 7.37% |
| Spoiled Ballot - This whole thing is an awful idea |
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61 | 2.86% |
| I'm not going to vote |
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19 | 0.89% |
| I'm not allowed to vote |
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411 | 19.30% |
| Pissflaps |
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533 | 25.02% |
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Let's be clear, the leave campaign was racist. Most people who voted leave are not racist, although may have been made to feel racist concerns by the racist campaign. Some people who voted leave are racist out of ignorance (people in former industrial areas who have leaked to ukip). Some people who voted leave are racist due to bigotry, (edl, bnp). E: mods work fast, but why was I the first to report the guy
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:So....anyone like to make predictions as to the timeline to the EU collapsing and Russia taking over the entire continent? Timeline October, 2016 or previous: Scotland, Northern Ireland leave Britain, dissolving the UK and leaving England alone. November, 2016: Global economic meltdown caused by Brexit increases Trump support, lending him to win election. World economy gets worse, USA withdraws from NATO June 22, 2017: Russia signs Warsaw Pact: Resurgence and commences Operation Bagration v 2.0 and makes it to the Meuse in 4 months, Paris is declared an open city, new communist regime in Vichy. Red Square, October 2017. Soviet banners fly, Red Army marching through the streets. You thought Putin was disloyal to the revolution? KGB's ultimate plot fulfilled in only 20 years. Trump is dead, and Europe is Red.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:14
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KaptainKrunk posted:"UGH loving RACIST POOR WORKING CLASS MORONS RUIN EVERYTHING FOR ME AND MY SMART CULTURED FRIENDS!" is exactly the wrong response to have. well those idiot racists certainly don't deserve any congratulations for crashing the global economy, so what is the best way of engaging these backwoods hicks? In real terms, please, none of this "stop calling racists racists" bullshit. If it means just lying to the world about how xenophobia isn't actually racism then just admit that and be done with it.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:14
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Woke up in sunny ol' Canada to find out that David Cameron is history's greatest coward. Resignation and buck passing combined in a single milquetoast speech! What a loving weasel.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:14
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How many loving times do we have to point out that this thread is mostly working class posters.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:14
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Help Im Alive posted:idk if a petition has ever achieved anything but there's one for a 2nd referendum that's been getting like 1000 signatures a minute A simple 50%+1 majority was awful for such a huge decision anyway. I'd agree they do it, but some damage is already done. A "lol just kidding" would at least be a few fingers in the dike though
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Jun 24, 2016 14:15
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Pissflaps also predicted "we are stuck with Corbyn until the next general" so, um, could you predict I'll never find a large sack of gold?
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Jun 24, 2016 14:15
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KaptainKrunk posted:People's lack of sympathy for the working class ITT and elsewhere is exactly why the Left is dead. "UGH loving RACIST POOR WORKING CLASS MORONS RUIN EVERYTHING FOR ME AND MY SMART CULTURED FRIENDS! WHAT ABOUT MY TRIPS TO THE CONTINENT?" is exactly the wrong response to have. This is right. It isn't even their fault. This shouldn't have been up for vote because the public have been poisoned by eu scapegoating for decades. This is all on David "put his ham in the Spam" Cameron.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:15
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OwlFancier posted:Nah, there's way more damage to come in future, just wait. I'm listening to some of these companies, and the vast majority of them are already saying they are going to have to reconsider their UK offices. No, the damage is done. And will get worse. Best comparison a friend made "Hey baby, I'm breaking up with you...." 2 hours later "I was just kidding! Our relationship is healthy, right?"
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Jun 24, 2016 14:15
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https://twitter.com/louisa_compton/status/746279848180592640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw of loving course
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Jun 24, 2016 14:15
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Looking forward to Brits blaming all their problems on the EU now that they're no longer a part of if.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:16
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Namtab posted:Let's be clear, the leave campaign was racist. A correct post.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:16
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Friendly Humour posted:Looking forward to Brits blaming all their problems on the EU now that they're no longer a part of if. This will continute to happen as long as there are Polish people in jobs British people used to have.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:17
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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CommieGIR posted:I'm listening to some of these companies, and the vast majority of them are already saying they are going to have to reconsider their UK offices. However actually leaving the EU is going to cause even more damage because it fucks up all our international trade, and some parts of our economy are heavily reliant on immigrant workers.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:17
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KaptainKrunk posted:The Left or what's left of it is still living under the delusional that the EU is a force for good or an instrument for standing up to Big Bad Corporations when it is neither of those things. In fact it is thoroughly captured by neoliberal capital and has no one's interests in mind but Eurocrats, financiers, and the lucky few able to squeeze out decent lives as white-collar professionals. Agreed, primarily because I think the above attitude is what is preventing the left from being able to persuade and convince the working class people who voted Leave. Namtab said something earlier about how labelling people racist shuts down debate - I think this is correct - it immediately puts people on the defensive as they perceive it as a personal attack, and so eliminates any possibility of persuading them.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:17
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OwlFancier posted:How many loving times do we have to point out that this thread is mostly working class posters. You're not a real working class I guess unless you drive around in those UK style white vans, which are roughly analogous to pickup trucks for the "working class" here.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:17
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mr_jolly posted:"A Leave voter has admitted on national television that he didn’t think his ballot would matter and is now shocked the UK will now leave the European Union." What a loving twat
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Jun 24, 2016 14:17
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Barry Foster posted:Areas without significant multicultural populations strongly tend towards being very, very frightened/resentful of multicultural populations But why is the north more afraid than Cornwall? We're surprised to see so much as a redhead living down here. Except as tourists, of course. Maybe that's the difference.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:17
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IceAgeComing posted:https://twitter.com/louisa_compton/status/746279848180592640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw children break toy on hardwood floor, cry when it isn't lego, news at 11
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Jun 24, 2016 14:18
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Peven Stan posted:You're not a real working class I guess unless you drive around in those UK style white vans, which are roughly analogous to pickup trucks for the "working class" here.  if you think i could afford a car.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:18
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thecluckmeme posted:You are human garbage with a trashomancer steadily funneling mana into a pile of refuse and bile Not relevant to this discussion but this is loving genius lol
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Jun 24, 2016 14:19
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This has been the highest turnout political vote in decades, people aren't used to their vote actually counting for something with how ballsed up representation is
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Jun 24, 2016 14:19
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OwlFancier posted:However actually leaving the EU is going to cause even more damage because it fucks up all our international trade, and some parts of our economy are heavily reliant on immigrant workers. True. Either way, the entire referendum is a giant flop.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:19
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OwlFancier posted:and some parts of our economy are heavily reliant on immigrant workers. Which is exactly why a large proportion of people voted to leave.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:19
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Phi230 posted:Timeline How long until the Buggers show up and we form the Hegemony?
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Jun 24, 2016 14:20
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KaptainKrunk posted:That 51-49 split for capitalism on both sides is pretty disgusting actually I'm very far from a fan of capitalism but I admit there aren't many other palatable options, and capitalism did get the West to where we are today, for good or ill. 50/50 seems about right.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:20
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HJB posted:Which is exactly why a large proportion of people voted to leave. You're an idiot.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:20
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Here's a Lord Ashcroft post-poll thing which has some demographic stuff and looks into why people voted - nothing really surprising
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Jun 24, 2016 14:21
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mr_jolly posted:"A Leave voter has admitted on national television that he didn’t think his ballot would matter and is now shocked the UK will now leave the European Union." I've already had one person at work tell me the same thing. However, they were upbeat and optimistic and told me they were looking forward to seeing our country "stand on it's own two feet now we have taken back control" (not paraphrasing, that's word for word).
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Jun 24, 2016 14:21
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CommieGIR posted:You're an idiot. I see some people don't quite understand the Brexit mentality.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:22
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HJB posted:Which is exactly why a large proportion of people voted to leave. I'm sure they will be only too happy to compete on equally lovely terms as the workers they're replacing.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:22
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OwlFancier posted:I'm sure they will be only too happy to compete on equally lovely terms as the workers they're replacing. No, they will be getting paid more, as the immigrants will not be there to push down wages.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:23
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IT BEGINS posted:Not relevant to this discussion but this is loving genius lol I was hoping the bar-stool-hooves would be quotable but thanks for making a loving awful night seem better 
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Jun 24, 2016 14:23
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OwlFancier posted:However actually leaving the EU is going to cause even more damage because it fucks up all our international trade, and some parts of our economy are heavily reliant on immigrant workers. My US headquartered international company had meetings this morning to discuss the impact on our business. UK, you motherfuckers have hosed up big time.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:23
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KaptainKrunk posted:The Left or what's left of it is still living under the delusional that the EU is a force for good or an instrument for standing up to Big Bad Corporations when it is neither of those things. In fact it is thoroughly captured by neoliberal capital and has no one's interests in mind but Eurocrats, financiers, and the lucky few able to squeeze out decent lives as white-collar professionals. fwiw Guavanaut and I have been railing against that narrative itt not v. successfully but c'est la vie
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Jun 24, 2016 14:23
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HJB posted:No, they will be getting paid more, as the immigrants will not be there to push down wages. Overpopulation is not the reason we have depressed wages.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:24
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Namtab posted:E: mods work fast, but why was I the first to report the guy you kept beating me to it lol
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Jun 24, 2016 14:24
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HJB posted:No, they will be getting paid more, as the immigrants will not be there to push down wages. you really don't understand this economic collapse thing at all
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Jun 24, 2016 14:24
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lol if you actually believed that Cameron would stay post brexit vote.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm sure they will be only too happy to compete on equally lovely terms as the workers they're replacing. A lot of the older people/pensioners who voted seem to believe that the Polish/Nigerian/etc care workers will be happily replaced by bubbly Yorkshire lasses who will be content to wipe their bums for them for minimum wage/zero hour contracts. I have sympathy with many of the people who will be affected by this, but not them. gently caress them. They can lay in their own poo poo and piss
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