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About 2/3 through All Men Are Mortal by Simone de Beauvoir. Like the idea but it's starting to drag a bit. Part three felt wholly unnecssary. Although I suppose it is intentional in that the whole point is "nothing matters when you're immortal".
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Yeah I read My Brilliant Friend too, it appears to be semi-edgy YA romancecore for people who want to pretend they are reading something good. Recommended for same people who like the adult Fault In Our Stars, A Little Life
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Mallamp doesn't like international feminist masterpiece Shocking
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It was entertaining but if it wasn't Italian it'd be discussed at goodreads and foreveryoungadult.com instead of lit magazines
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I know the answer is "mallamp is dumb and trolling" but I am geniunely curious where you feel romance factors into the plot of My Brilliant Friend
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Jun 26, 2016 18:33
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I know the answer is "mallamp is dumb and trolling" but I am geniunely curious where you feel romance factors into the plot of My Brilliant Friend don't give away anything please
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Someone who looks at any of the relationships between men and women in MBF and goes away saying "Oh a romance story" is a misogynist to a sociopathic degree
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Babbitt Sinclair Lewis Before I started reading this book, I expected this to be like other literature books I've read - generally hard to get into at first, but eventually enjoyable. Instead, I found Babbitt to be a genuinely interesting novel from start to finish. Reading this book for me was like reading Dilbert comics or watching Office Space, initially funny because of how satirically it is, but eventually depressing because of how accurate it is. The main theme of this novel is the American culture towards conformity. I feel like whenever I read literature, I take away some sort of lesson, and the lesson in this book for me was just how average the problems I face in my own life are.
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Jun 26, 2016 18:51
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i haven't read ferrante yet (waiting for the latvian translation), but mallamp's opinion about ferrante being booker-rate lific seems to be widely shared by ppl who are hardcore into translated lit, tbh. and i don't thinki t's just snobbery against smash hits, because knausgaard got much smaller backlash from them - among women, too. but ehy, i'll read it this autumn and will let u know my thoughts!
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Jun 26, 2016 19:12
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Who are these people hardcore into translated lit who don't like Ferrante?
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Jun 26, 2016 19:59
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I recall Tim Parks calling Ferrante a publishing industry fad. Or possibly Knausgaard, and then it was in another article where he savaged Ferrante. In any case I've heard no one I respect praising her, so she's not getting anywhere near my reading list.
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Jun 26, 2016 20:21
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Read The Plague and didn't realize it was about nazis until I read the wikipedia article  . Can someone also explain to me what The Fall was about.
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Ras Het posted:I recall Tim Parks calling Ferrante a publishing industry fad. Or possibly Knausgaard, and then it was in another article where he savaged Ferrante. In any case I've heard no one I respect praising her, so she's not getting anywhere near my reading list. Tim Parks is a vestigial organ of the "great male" tradition of writing throwing a temper tantrum that the world has moved beyond novels about educated upper middle class men bemoaning how hard life is
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Jun 26, 2016 20:48
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A Season With Verona owns though
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Tim Parks is a vestigial organ of the "great male" tradition of writing throwing a temper tantrum that the world has moved beyond novels about educated upper middle class men bemoaning how hard life is Uhh, OK, but he is a literary translator, and as such a person probably somewhat in tune with the world of translated literature in English Idiootti posted:Read The Plague and didn't realize it was about nazis until I read the wikipedia article Like all Camus, mores e: I just realised that "mores" is supposedly singular
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Jun 26, 2016 21:08
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Ras Het posted:Uhh, OK, but he is a literary translator, and as such a person probably somewhat in tune with the world of translated literature in English So? His condemnation is not directed at the particulars of translation of Ferrante as much as it is with the text of Ferrante itself.
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I'm not sure what we're arguing about, I was just following on Latvian Dude pointing out that Ferrante hasn't been praised unanimously by people into world lit
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Ras Het posted:I'm not sure what we're arguing about, I was just following on Latvian Dude pointing out that Ferrante hasn't been praised unanimously by people into world lit Fair enough, when I said "Who are these people" I was not challenging the notion that these people existed, I was saying "Show me what some of these people are saying."
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Jun 26, 2016 21:19
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blue squares posted:don't give away anything please Read for the plot much, fucker. ProSlayer posted:Babbitt Babbit was a lot of fun I dug the thing about the Elks.
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Jun 26, 2016 22:07
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I read for the babes to be quite frank.
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Jun 26, 2016 23:32
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Sartre in the streets, Camus in the sheets.
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The Little Red Chairs is interesting. The book spoils the plot unapologetically in every single blurb but then the plot goes in insane directions that could not be predicted even within the context of the story.
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ProSlayer posted:like reading Dilbert comics ... initially funny
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Idiootti posted:Sartre in the streets, Camus in the sheets. Sartre was actually the kinky one, though
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Jun 27, 2016 01:33
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oblomov in both the streets and sheets
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Jun 27, 2016 01:48
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mallamp also dismissed A Little Life as 'YA with more rape' iirc
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Jun 27, 2016 02:39
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Lol lots of YA getting attention these days I guess
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Top5 sports books: The Fight by Norman Mailer, A Season With Verona by Tim Parks, Art of Fielding by Chad Harbach (fiction), What I Talk About When I Talk About Running by Haruki Murakami and On Boxing by Joyce Carol Oates I doubt other Tim Parks books are as good though, I've rarely heard of him in other context. I think Where I'm Reading from had some hype though
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top 1 sports book: universal baseball association
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I always forget to actually read Coover, good project for this summer
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as for ferrante, most of the lit blogs i read (mookse and gripes, quarterly conversations, complete review, three percent, tonysreadinglist, antonomasia and hadrian on goodreads, etc.) liked it, but none of them recommend it wholeheartedly, with a couple being much more sceptical. even those who do recommend it, focus on readability, how it drew them in and psychological acuteness of the author, instead of quality of prose or depth, or ambition. that's perfectly fine though, and i am curious enough about it to be looking forward to reading it. i love my dickens and austen just as much as i do marias and kadare. also, interesting enough, none of the two translators from italian i know really liked ferrante's style. although one of them is doing the first book right now, and the other was offered one of the later ones (they work to different languages)
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mallamp posted:Top5 sports books: The Fight by Norman Mailer, A Season With Verona by Tim Parks, Art of Fielding by Chad Harbach (fiction), What I Talk About When I Talk About Running by Haruki Murakami and On Boxing by Joyce Carol Oates you forgot paper lion and have a nice day
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Top 2 fishing books: The Old Man and the Sea, Moby Dick.
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mallamp posted:Top5 sports books: The Fight by Norman Mailer, A Season With Verona by Tim Parks, Art of Fielding by Chad Harbach (fiction), What I Talk About When I Talk About Running by Haruki Murakami and On Boxing by Joyce Carol Oates
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Idiootti posted:Top 2 fishing books: The Old Man and the Sea, Moby Dick. Fly Fishing by J. R. Hartley, surely?!
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I read The Art of Fielding as a wild card (from Mel Mudkiper). It was really good. Dragged in the middle a little bit, but it worked, since every character was hitting their rock bottom. Glad I read it while it was still summer.
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Franchescanado posted:I read The Art of Fielding as a wild card (from Mel Mudkiper). It was really good. Dragged in the middle a little bit, but it worked, since every character was hitting their rock bottom. Glad I read it while it was still summer. Yeah I always saw that book as like a Franzen novel that wasn't irretrievably up its own rear end
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Can anyone recommend books similar to that style of writing?
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John Irving books remind me of the Art of Fielding, but a lot better. I really disliked The Art of Fielding in just about every way. Irving books hit a lot of the same beats but have interesting characters.
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Cloks posted:Can anyone recommend books similar to that style of writing? Any specific aspect of the style?
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