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when the cubs get bumped in the ds cubs fans are going to become the new bfib on twitter about heyward
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Aug 19, 2016 20:23
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I'm still anticipating them somehow losing enough games to not even make the playoffs.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:28
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I'm at work and lazy so I'm not going to crawl through twitter to confirm my suspicions, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say Cubs fans on twitter are already in full bfib mode over Heyward. No need to wait for us to get bumped in the postseason.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:29
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Scob posted:when the cubs get bumped in the ds cubs fans are going to become the new bfib on twitter about heyward You have to have a record of success before you can start getting upset about underperformance This is a team that's probably 1-2 years ahead of where The Plan™ expected them to be and the only major pieces not currently under contract for 2017 are Ross, Chapman and Fowler. I'll be disappointed if they don't win this year but this is a solid enough core under team control to be competitive until 2020-2021. Cub fans I know have been pretty ambivalent about Heyward's offense and one game saving catch in the playoffs will erase any thoughts about his 8 ground balls/soft lineouts right to an infielder in the same series. If they don't win by the time Rizzo and Bryant hit FA? Yeah ok that's another in a century of massive choke jobs.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:31
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Is it BFIB mode to say he's really bad this year and I wish they wouldn't play him? Because most of the bench guys are better (at batting anyhow).quote:I'll be disappointed if they don't win this year but this is a solid enough core under team control to be competitive until 2020-2021. Well, unless some prospects come together quickly both the rotation and the bullpen are going to be a goddamn mess after 2017 so it remains to be seen how competitive they can be after next year. Also next year could be pretty bad if they don't replace Fowler's offense somehow, replacing Fowler with Almora doesn't give me a lot of confidence. They lost a lot of games this year whenever Fowler was out. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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Aug 19, 2016 20:32
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yeah so what happens when the cubs get bounced from the post season with the bases loaded, down by one with Jason up to bat.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:37
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What I'm trying to say is that Schwarber got hurt in game 3, the $180 million right fielder has an OPS+ of 67, just slightly worse than our $13m/year catcher with an OPS+ of 68, half the bullpen is on the DL and a lot of the other half is a roulette wheel of emotion and inaccurate pitching outside of the guy a large part of the fanbase doesn't want on the team due to off-field issues, the Cy Young winner from last year is suddenly having major control issues, our best bench lefty spent 2 weeks in Jersey finding himself instead of reporting to his DFA, they're playing 5 games under their Pythag estimate... And this is still the best Cubs team I've seen in my lifetime and probably the lifetimes that anyone under the age of 80 can actively remember. I'm not going to sit around and bitch and be negative about what this team isn't doing. They've had a ton go wrong this year and they're still 13 up in their division and 7 games up on every other team in the league. Of course the playoffs are a crapshoot and if the bats go silent like they did against the Mets/they match up poorly against the other rotation they can absolutely lose a short series. But they've put themselves in the best position I've ever seen them in to actually break through and I'd rather spend the next 2+ months hopeful instead of dreading every possible negative thing that can happen to them.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:43
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Goodpancakes posted:yeah so what happens when the cubs get bounced from the post season with the bases loaded, down by one with Jason up to bat. No one is surprised because it's the NLDS and they're down 2 games to 0 and on the road.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:48
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CubsWoo posted:What I'm trying to say is that Schwarber got hurt in game 3, the $180 million right fielder has an OPS+ of 67, just slightly worse than our $13m/year catcher with an OPS+ of 68, half the bullpen is on the DL and a lot of the other half is a roulette wheel of emotion and inaccurate pitching outside of the guy a large part of the fanbase doesn't want on the team due to off-field issues, the Cy Young winner from last year is suddenly having major control issues, our best bench lefty spent 2 weeks in Jersey finding himself instead of reporting to his DFA, they're playing 5 games under their Pythag estimate... 
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Aug 19, 2016 20:50
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The Cubs have put themselves in the perfect position to be the next Blackhawks - break a long drought with a ton of young talent, then win two more times in the next 5 years and make everyone outside of Chicago go from 'hey good for them for finally winning one' to out and out hatred.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:56
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CubsWoo posted:make everyone outside of Chicago go ...' to out and out hatred. That's already happened.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:56
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Cubs fans don't have a Dollar Bill to fall back on to say BUT IT WAS SO BAD TWENTY YEARS AGO, though
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Aug 19, 2016 21:00
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Longtime Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti did an interview with Fangraphs where he talks about pitchers and what makes good pitching. Fascinating stuff if you're interested in the mechanics behind pitching.
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Aug 19, 2016 21:04
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Mike_V posted:Cubs fans don't have a Dollar Bill to fall back on to say BUT IT WAS SO BAD TWENTY YEARS AGO, though 108 years of no world series is pretty bad though, compared to your 5 Also Dusty Baker killed our good young pitchers 15 years ago, RIP
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Aug 19, 2016 21:04
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Goodpancakes posted:N: I said fat men mashing dingers to my wife and she thought I was watching gay porn. This made me laugh a lot, thank you.
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Aug 19, 2016 21:11
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Mike_V posted:Cubs fans don't have a Dollar Bill to fall back on to say BUT IT WAS SO BAD TWENTY YEARS AGO, though None of them were as bad as (edit: Wirtz) but Phil Wrigley basically owned the team in absentia for decades and wasted the careers of Billy Williams/Ron Santo/Ernie Banks among others, and the Tribune company couldn't be bothered to field a competitive team more than once or twice a decade. In the 102 seasons between 1908 and the Ricketts ownership they've finished first in the division 12 times and second 10 times for a total of 13 playoff appearances and an overall playoff record of 22-53. There's a lot of blame to go around even if you can't pin it all entirely on one owner. E: The team was 3403-3629 under Phillp Wrigley despite 5 World Series appearances in the first 13 years of ownership and 2254-2538 under the Tribune company so technically they ended up doing worse under Trib ownership. CubsWoo fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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Aug 19, 2016 21:13
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I'm talking about Bill Wirtz come on.
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Aug 19, 2016 21:14
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Is Rondon legit hurt or is this a situation where they are being extra cautious with him?
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Aug 19, 2016 21:16
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Mike_V posted:I'm talking about Bill Wirtz come on. Cubs still have had it really bad though. Blackhawks had the worst owner in the history of sports for a few decades, Cubs haven't won a championship since before WWI. Both were hilariously incompetent and the Cubs probably still will continue to be so.
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Aug 19, 2016 21:19
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Mike_V posted:I'm talking about Bill Wirtz come on. I mistyped which Bill owner it was but I knew who you meant. Niwrad posted:Is Rondon legit hurt or is this a situation where they are being extra cautious with him? Cubs have said it's precautionary, as is the Lackey DL stint.
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Aug 19, 2016 21:23
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Has anyone noted that the Cubs haven't won a World Series in a really long time???Ammat The Ankh posted:Longtime Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti did an interview with Fangraphs where he talks about pitchers and what makes good pitching. Fascinating stuff if you're interested in the mechanics behind pitching. Cool article. The first point he makes about changing speeds is essential. It's the reason why a guy like Aroldis Chapman would likely never make the transition to be a starter. You start to see 100 MPH a few batters in a row and guys will be able to adjust. Whether thats cheating and starting your swing earlier or being able to pick it up after seeing a few fastballs. He doesn't have enough secondary pitches to keep batters guessing beyond fastball/slider. It's pitching machine syndrome, the first few times you step into the fast pitch machine it seems impossible to keep up with but after a few rounds it's not so bad. Popete fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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Aug 19, 2016 21:25
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None of us are 100 years old so I don't see how that's relevant.
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Aug 19, 2016 21:27
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Ice To Meet You posted:None of us are 100 years old so I don't see how that's relevant. If you don't win a WS for 110 years they contract you
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Aug 19, 2016 21:29
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The cubs fan handshake is to mention ww1
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Aug 19, 2016 21:41
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N:I'm not sure if this really counts as MLB but https://twitter.com/bryann_paul/status/766732086501838849 V: The next generation of dinger-crushing, bat flipping Canadian baseball players is going to be so great. It's like the effect Vince Carter had on Canadian basketball that Bautista and Edwin will hopefully have with baseball. I'm gonna miss them. Yaya fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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Aug 19, 2016 22:07
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Scob posted:when the cubs get bumped in the ds cubs fans are going to become the new bfib on twitter about heyward Cubs are going to lose to the Red Sox and everyone's going to have to spend all off-season reading bad conspiracy theories.
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Aug 19, 2016 22:12
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The Rockies called up another top prospect pitcher to get ruined by Coors Field. Jeff Hoffman, who they got from Toronto in the Tulo trade.
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Aug 19, 2016 22:14
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Yaya posted:N:I'm not sure if this really counts as MLB but https://twitter.com/bryann_paul/status/766732086501838849 Holy poo poo, Japan lost? And to Canada of all teams? drat, this year's LLWS is going to own.
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Aug 19, 2016 22:34
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Popete posted:You start to see 100 MPH a few batters in a row and guys will be able to adjust. 100 mph is always going to be hard to hit, let alone Chapman's 105. The movie "Fastball" points out that at 100 mph, the human brain has so little time to process visual information about the approaching ball (compared to the leisurely 92) that weird optical illusions start to happen; the pitcher sees the ball rising as it approaches the plate (impossible), the pitcher sees the ball looking smaller than it really is, the ball can appear to vanish altogether. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g48lMMwv8wM
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Aug 19, 2016 22:55
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shadok posted:100 mph is always going to be hard to hit, let alone Chapman's 105. The movie "Fastball" points out that at 100 mph, the human brain has so little time to process visual information about the approaching ball (compared to the leisurely 92) that weird optical illusions start to happen; the pitcher sees the ball rising as it approaches the plate (impossible), the pitcher sees the ball looking smaller than it really is, the ball can appear to vanish altogether. 
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Aug 19, 2016 23:00
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Those astronauts don't know jack about
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Aug 19, 2016 23:08
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Now I ain't some... fancy big-city scientist...
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Aug 19, 2016 23:08
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https://vine.co/v/5MJbtwqpKFZ lolllll
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Aug 19, 2016 23:18
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CubsWoo posted:The Cubs have put themselves in the perfect position to be the next Blackhawks - break a long drought with a ton of young talent, then win two more times in the next 5 years and make everyone outside of Chicago go from 'hey good for them for finally winning one' to out and out hatred. Here in MLB we call that the Dirty Water Special.
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Aug 19, 2016 23:20
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shadok posted:100 mph is always going to be hard to hit, let alone Chapman's 105. The movie "Fastball" points out that at 100 mph, the human brain has so little time to process visual information about the approaching ball (compared to the leisurely 92) that weird optical illusions start to happen; the pitcher sees the ball rising as it approaches the plate (impossible), the pitcher sees the ball looking smaller than it really is, the ball can appear to vanish altogether. He's not wrong, though. Hitting a 100mph fastball is difficult, yes, but a good hitter will adjust if all you're doing is throwing all fastballs over the middle of the plate. Ask Nate Eovaldi.
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Aug 19, 2016 23:22
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shadok posted:100 mph is always going to be hard to hit, let alone Chapman's 105. The movie "Fastball" points out that at 100 mph, the human brain has so little time to process visual information about the approaching ball (compared to the leisurely 92) that weird optical illusions start to happen; the pitcher sees the ball rising as it approaches the plate (impossible), the pitcher sees the ball looking smaller than it really is, the ball can appear to vanish altogether. This doc looks pretty good. Worth tracking down?
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Aug 19, 2016 23:44
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Julio Cruz posted:He's not wrong, though. Hitting a 100mph fastball is difficult, yes, but a good hitter will adjust if all you're doing is throwing all fastballs over the middle of the plate. Ask Nate Eovaldi. I would but he hasn't stopped screaming yet
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Aug 19, 2016 23:45
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MrMojok posted:This doc looks pretty good. Worth tracking down? It was fun to watch. It's still on netflix i believe so should be easy to get ahold of.
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Aug 19, 2016 23:48
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MrMojok posted:This doc looks pretty good. Worth tracking down? It's on Netflix, and it's excellent. Really well done documentary.
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CubsWoo posted:
i literally don't know how to follow sports like this, this whole season has been completely miserable for me, just waiting for it all to come crashing down.
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