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Zoolooman posted:Queues killed this game for me. Do people actually enjoy them? Do people play competitive? zooloo i love you please send the puck pin 
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i don't think anyone likes the new system, but so many people just shrugged and kept playing that valve doesn't really have a reason to walk it back
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Sep 10, 2016 07:40
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CraigK posted:JUST WANT MY TRUC I hope he found his truc.... after all these years....
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Sep 10, 2016 07:41
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anyway i played comp once found multiple hacking snipers sighed and went back to yelling angryly about dota
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Sep 10, 2016 07:42
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Zoolooman posted:Queues killed this game for me. Do people actually enjoy them? Do people play competitive? I dunno about the latter, but there was a huge outcry against it when it launched. Unfortunately, because the people working on the game didn't want their work to go to waste, and that the people who didn't like it seemed to be a vocal minority, it never reverted back to the old system.
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Sep 10, 2016 07:45
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CraigK posted:zooloo i love you please send the puck pin I should still have the physical pin somewhere. I'll look for it.
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Sep 10, 2016 07:53
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Just play with all your friends, jeez Going in with a maxed-out group seems to alleviate the massive stomps/rampant cheating that you'd get with a 1-2 person queue, and lets you do stupid poo poo like this:  ...and still get MVP for the round.
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Sep 10, 2016 07:54
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before, i could have had the option to do that AND goof around by myself after work when i'm tired and just want to listen to music, with the added bonus of being able to easily hop somewhere else if blatant hackers were doing things
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Sep 10, 2016 08:02
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Johnny Joestar posted:before, i could have had the option to do that AND goof around by myself after work when i'm tired and just want to listen to music, with the added bonus of being able to easily hop somewhere else if blatant hackers were doing things yeah this is pretty much it; tf2 was the fun "ooh i see three people from the LCs on a badlands server ima hop on and join them and screw around" thing, and now the matchmaking literally makes it a less fun and balanced overwatch or dota and this is dumb; tf2's the "i might have to pick up and leave in a half hour" game and dota is the "my schedules clear so lets game" game and it really sucked that valve kneecapped the poo poo out of the pick up and play aspect of tf2 Zoolooman posted:I should still have the physical pin somewhere. I'll look for it. thank you! i miss seeing you around and stuff <3 CraigK fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Sep 10, 2016 |
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Sep 10, 2016 09:33
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A buddy of mine played like 2 tours of MvM and got an Australium so weve been playing that for like 3 weeks now. The wait has always been there for MvM so its not a big deal.
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Sep 10, 2016 10:20
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My least favourite part is the fact I can't play with my Aussie buddies any more unless we hop into a community server. Trying to queue for casual when it's all Aussies with one person from the UK means it takes hours to find a game (if it even finds one at all). Please just dump us into an Australian server, I've been playing with these guys for the better part of two years now, 300 ping doesn't bother me it's okay
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Sep 10, 2016 11:22
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Man I want to play on this hyper-idealized version of Valve pubs you guys are talking about. For me it was always impossible to pass a scramble vote after a stomp because the winning team would vote it down, it only happened apparently at random during the middle of gameplay
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Sep 10, 2016 13:58
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IMO they gimped comp right out of the gate by making it a 10 dollar buy-in, even before poor word of mouth on queue times and team quality how many dudes want to pay 10 bux for 6v6 tf2
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Sep 10, 2016 14:02
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Man I want to play on this hyper-idealized version of Valve pubs you guys are talking about. For me it was always impossible to pass a scramble vote after a stomp because the winning team would vote it down, it only happened apparently at random during the middle of gameplay There was also autoscramble.
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Sep 10, 2016 14:03
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I actually like casual matchmaking because I basically get to choose my own map rotation. I mean I do run into problems with steamrolls, but that was pretty much the norm even on critsandvich or any community server, let alone quickplay. I guess I sort of miss autoscrambles, but they were never a guarantee of creating balance. Sometimes things got worse post-scramble.
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Sep 10, 2016 14:53
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Reiley posted:Goonlanders are a thing to be remembered, or misremembered. It was hard enough to herd those cats when the community was active, I think they live only in memory now. True enough, in the cold light of day. I don't really want to gently caress around with Battle.net and MOBAs are a pile of toxic poo poo so RIP my multiplayer gaming, I guess. Sigh.
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Sep 10, 2016 15:24
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Yeah, RIP
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Sep 10, 2016 15:59
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Overwatch isn't that bad, it basically just takes all the tf2 class gimmicks and makes each one their own character. So instead of one class that can bounce nades around corners and set traps -or- charge into poo poo with a sword (and be a useless turd) you instead have two classes for that. Thats not to say TF2 doesn't have qualities that are still great and make me keep playing; Spy and Pyro are incredibly fun and dont really have OW counterparts, and Payload is still my favorite FPS game mode.
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Sep 10, 2016 16:37
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Is Quake Champions looking any good?
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Sep 10, 2016 19:56
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Neurolimal posted:Thats not to say TF2 doesn't have qualities that are still great and make me keep playing; Spy and Pyro are incredibly fun and dont really have OW counterparts, and Payload is still my favorite FPS game mode. Payload never really worked for 6s but HL stopwatch payload is a pretty cool comp mode imo. It gives Heavies a role to play without making them OP (or useless), and I like the "this is as far as we could get, see if you can do better" dynamic. CP and Payload are The Good TF2 Formats.
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Sep 10, 2016 20:25
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CraigK posted:REMEMBER HOW TF2 HAD AN EIGHT YEAR HEAD START ON OVERWATCH AND STILL MANAGED TO GET ITS COMP MODE OUT AFTER OVERWATCH all valve needs to do is add money and better anticheat methods+staff esports make companies a lot of money.. especially to new titles like OW but low effort maintaining the playerbase with gimmicks like skin updates plus maps ripped from the community is probably a lot more profitable for tf2.. So yeah we will probably never see that sort of developer involved esport revival that would bring tf2 "back to life" but hey if you miss highlander/6s/4s/ulti duo pugs then there is a constant stream of them over at https://www.tf2center.com
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Sep 11, 2016 00:07
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tf2center doesn't let you play if you have adblock installed at all though
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Sep 11, 2016 00:30
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valve doesn't even have to worry about making esports money because they literally own one of the biggest esports properties in existence already
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Sep 11, 2016 00:31
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Some of TF2s problems are down to lack of effort spent maintaining it, but ultimately it uses a very outdated engine and has some pretty fundamental problems. I can understand them not wanting to push it as an eSport.
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Sep 11, 2016 01:05
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I just wanna go back to playing gravelpit and foundry again, is that too much to ask?
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Sep 11, 2016 01:47
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Where is Hydro bring out Hydro
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Sep 11, 2016 02:27
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CraigK posted:in the far flung future, someone will ask me, "craigk, what were the lost continents like"
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Sep 11, 2016 03:02
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I can forgive a lot of TF2's problems because hey, they gave the pyro a niche (that isn't "this weapon is overpowered and rewards the playstyle that ignores airblasting") thank u gabe
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Sep 11, 2016 03:07
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crabf posted:tf2center doesn't let you play if you have adblock installed at all though MixChamp is a viable alternative if you're only interested in 6s.
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Sep 11, 2016 03:14
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Johnny Joestar posted:valve doesn't even have to worry about making esports money because they literally own one of the biggest esports properties in existence already They actually own two, CS and DOTA. At least TF isn't as forgotten as L4D, DOD, or that other game Valve made.
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Sep 11, 2016 05:02
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Valve making games is so last decade.
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Sep 11, 2016 05:16
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Peanut President posted:They actually own two, CS and DOTA. At least TF isn't as forgotten as L4D, DOD, or that other game Valve made. I remember when L4D 2 came our barely a year after the original and everyone was mad
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Sep 11, 2016 05:18
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Most fun I ever had in TF2 was that goon PUG group a few years ago. That was good stuff. Apparently if I want to play shootmans with goons these days, I have to learn to like Overwatch. But every time I've tried it, I can't get over how spammy it feels. Junkrat seems like he'd be my jam but it feels wrong not having any reason to let go of M1. I always loved darting around as Scout but the scattergun was like 80% of that, I can't stand Tracer's automatic water pistols and Reaper's guns fire too fast too. I had my favorite flavor of FPS I guess and don't like change.
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Sep 11, 2016 05:38
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Peanut President posted:They actually own two, CS and DOTA. At least TF isn't as forgotten as L4D, DOD, or that other game Valve made. I think L4D had a pretty good run all things considered, it was never going to be a huge long running eSports phenominon, but it was a commercial and cultural success that will probabably get a decent sequel at some point. There's been leaks and rumours of L4D3 for a while, in fact, but Valve Time is Valve Time.
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Sep 11, 2016 10:48
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Why the hell do people queue for casual mode and then complain about people playing the objective?
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Sep 11, 2016 10:50
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Ditocoaf posted:Apparently if I want to play shootmans with goons these days, I have to learn to like Overwatch. Overwatch feels like it was designed ground-up as an e-sport, with very little attention paid to whether it was any fun or not. I find that liking DOTA/LoL is an excellent predictor for whether someone is going to like Overwatch.
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Sep 11, 2016 12:06
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MrYenko posted:Overwatch feels like it was designed ground-up as an e-sport, with very little attention paid to whether it was any fun or not. I find that liking DOTA/LoL is an excellent predictor for whether someone is going to like Overwatch. As someone who likes DOTA and would rather cut my own throat than play Overwatch again I'm offended.
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Sep 11, 2016 12:20
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Peanut President posted:As someone who likes DOTA and would rather cut my own throat than play Overwatch again I'm offended. As someone who likes Overwatch and would rather cut my own throat than play DOTA again I too am offended.
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Sep 11, 2016 12:26
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Godamnit people, stop ruining my overarching generalizations.
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nielsm posted:Why the hell do people queue for casual mode and then complain about people playing the objective? 12 year olds haven't discovered community 24/7 hightower servers yet
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