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Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms

Galick posted:

Anyone got a multiplayer game on Steam/PC with a ton of character customization? Preferably more action based than not, and I'd prefer picking specific abilities and stuff over picking a class. And huge dramatic differences between people based on those choices would be good. Sorry, I know this is vague.

Also not Dark Souls. Already playing all of them.

This might end up being an uninspired suggestion, but Path of Exile has all of its spells in gems that you socket into your equipment, there are also gems that augment the spells meaning you can link , say, lightning arrows with a multiple projectiles gem to make the skill shoot a burst of em instead of just one.

The passive "skilltree" is also very large which means you can grab whatever stats you feel like.

Generally the game is played using premade guides since you can't respec but there's no law against experimenting if you don't mind the possibility of loving up your character.

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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

willus posted:

red faction guerilla is a bit less open and not hand to hand combat-y but it's open world enough that i feel like i should at least recommend it, especially if you like the idea of using a giant space hammer to destroy buildings as you lead a socialist revolution against the oppressive earth government presence on mars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcUBI-YVRY8

has there ever been a worthy successor to this game?

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy
Are there any modern games similar to Myth II, or should I just play that again?

Galick
Nov 26, 2011

Why does Khajiit have to go to prison this time?

Ahundredbux posted:

This might end up being an uninspired suggestion, but Path of Exile has all of its spells in gems that you socket into your equipment, there are also gems that augment the spells meaning you can link , say, lightning arrows with a multiple projectiles gem to make the skill shoot a burst of em instead of just one.

The passive "skilltree" is also very large which means you can grab whatever stats you feel like.

Generally the game is played using premade guides since you can't respec but there's no law against experimenting if you don't mind the possibility of loving up your character.


Kanfy posted:

It ain't action, but Divinity: Original Sin hits those other requirements. It's multiplayer on Steam with a lot of different skills and traits to pick from (the classes in it are just presets you can adjust) and characters with different skillsets play very differently.


Brainamp posted:

There's the various Dynasty Warriors/Empire games done by koei. Aside from the campaigns that follow set characters, you can create custom people with individual weapons and skills.

Already played the first two to death, sadly, but I'll keep Dynasty Warriors in mind for us! Thanks, keep any suggestions coming!

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

Galick posted:

Already played the first two to death, sadly, but I'll keep Dynasty Warriors in mind for us! Thanks, keep any suggestions coming!

If you have a decent anime tolerance, God Eater 2 just released on steam. I haven't played it myself yet, but it looks like a more action focused monster hunter.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



LegoPirateNinja posted:

has there ever been a worthy successor to this game?

Not really. Just Cause 2 and 3 have you play an rear end in a top hat in an open world with absurdly funny physics interactions but no one outside of Volition has bothered with realistic destruction.

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

Are there any modern games similar to Myth II, or should I just play that again?

Are you talking about RTS games that are squad based? Dawn of War 2 is great although it lacks the deliberate pacing of Myth if that's what you're looking for.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


LegoPirateNinja posted:

has there ever been a worthy successor to this game?

Medieval Engineers and Space Engineers have that style of realistic destruction, but they are building oriented instead of destruction oriented.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

al-azad posted:

Are you talking about RTS games that are squad based? Dawn of War 2 is great although it lacks the deliberate pacing of Myth if that's what you're looking for.

Kinda? Story heavy real-time tactics, units that can level and persist across levels, no base or resource management. And yeah, squads versus entire armies. I've got all the Dawn of War games, I should try them finally.

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
The first Dawn of War is more of a traditional RTS, the second game is what you want if you're looking for squads with no bases and no resource management. Not exactly story-heavy though, it's very generic 40K and the plot is pretty thin.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

LegoPirateNinja posted:

has there ever been a worthy successor to this game?
Crackdown 3 looks like it's going to be just that, they're very focused on detailed and satisfying destruction

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

Boy are you in luck. If you don't mind space navy, Battlefleet Gothic plays just like a standard naval game but with Warhammer. Command Modern Air/Naval Operations is the classic Harpoon style highly grognardy Air/Naval game from anywhere from (kinda) WW2 to modern day. Atlantic Fleet is an alright budget strategy game about the Battle of the Atlantic, and it plays alright. Definitely worth the low price. Steam and Iron is a fantastic WW1 naval strategy game, but Rule the Waves is a game where you actually manage the development of WW1 era navies and the technological focuses can change if you use that option. Both S&I and RtW have terrible MS Paint graphics though, but they are ridiculously good for naval strategy.

For WW2 subsims, SH4 is actually really good. Playing in the Pacific Theatre is a nice change of pace and it just looks and plays much much better. There's also a multiplayer co-op submarine game called HMS Marulken which has a free demo, and everyone controls different bits of the sub. Cold War-era we have Sub Commander, which is kinda like FTL in that you have a crew and you're not the omniscient captain submarine god. Dangerous Waters is basically Silent Hunter but with modern subs.


Go play Metal Gear Ac!d and Ac!d 2.

I ended up getting Gothic, it is really a great game, especially since it is on sale :v: It's a bit hard to figure out and the AI is a bit retarded but the bones are great.

I thought that SH4 was kind of poo poo though? I heard that they changed a lot of UI stuff that made it just bad across the board.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


DreamShipWrecked posted:

I ended up getting Gothic, it is really a great game, especially since it is on sale :v: It's a bit hard to figure out and the AI is a bit retarded but the bones are great.

I thought that SH4 was kind of poo poo though? I heard that they changed a lot of UI stuff that made it just bad across the board.

Tip for Gothic: Set every ability to autocast.

SH4 is really good. Fantastic. Just an update for everything in SH3 but better.

quite stretched out
Feb 17, 2011

the chillest

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

Crackdown 3 looks like it's going to be just that, they're very focused on detailed and satisfying destruction

this is good to know

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

Kinda? Story heavy real-time tactics, units that can level and persist across levels, no base or resource management. And yeah, squads versus entire armies. I've got all the Dawn of War games, I should try them finally.

I've never played Myth 2 so I might be way off base here, but you just described Valkyria Chronicles to a T, and that's one of the best games ever made, so go play that

It's on steam now

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

I'm looking for a game where you place traps down/play cards/whatever to stop monsters or heroes entering your dungeon.
Kinda like evil genius but with more focus on the traps and also like dungeon warfare but more in depth.

Is there anything like that?

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

quadrophrenic posted:

I've never played Myth 2 so I might be way off base here, but you just described Valkyria Chronicles to a T, and that's one of the best games ever made, so go play that

It's on steam now

Oddly enough I own and have beaten that (and liked it), and never really connected the two. They are sorta similar in a way, though Myth is entirely real-time and is a (well-done) grimdark fantasy setting so they're kinda different.

That said, I can't fault you at all for suggesting it given the listed criteria, and it is a solid game, so thanks!

Geokinesis posted:

I'm looking for a game where you place traps down/play cards/whatever to stop monsters or heroes entering your dungeon.
Kinda like evil genius but with more focus on the traps and also like dungeon warfare but more in depth.

Is there anything like that?

War for the Overworld is a decent Dungeon Keeper clone, and I've heard that Dungeons is okay, but I haven't played it. It's a big stretch, but if you like the other games there's also Startopia, which has you managing a space station in a manner similar to the dungeon management of the other games, though with less emphasis on defense and traps and more on just keeping the inhabitants happy.

And if you haven't already played it, Dungeon Keeper (or DK 2) is the game that inspired Evil Genius (and every other game I listed above), so you might be interested in that - I think they sell it on GOG.

Alternatively, look at Orcs Must Die 1 and 2, which is a first-person spin on turret defense.

Aside from Orcs Must Die though, they're all pretty much hitting the same beats as Evil Genius so I don't know if they're exactly what you're looking for.

Japanese Dating Sim fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Sep 15, 2016

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

War for the Overworld is a decent Dungeon Keeper clone, and I've heard that Dungeons is okay, but I haven't played it. It's a big stretch, but if you like the other games there's also Startopia, which has you managing a space station in a manner similar to the dungeon management of the other games, though with less emphasis on defense and traps and more on just keeping the inhabitants happy.

And if you haven't already played it, Dungeon Keeper (or DK 2) is the game that inspired Evil Genius (and every other game I listed above), so you might be interested in that - I think they sell it on GOG.

Alternatively, look at Orcs Must Die 1 and 2, which is a first-person spin on turret defense.

Aside from Orcs Must Die though, they're all pretty much hitting the same beats as Evil Genius so I don't know if they're exactly what you're looking for.

I have WftO and tried orcs must die but ehhhhh. I dunno they just don't hit the right notes for me. Also Orcs must die had fps issues despite it being graphically consuming that the majority of my library.

Googling I'm thinking more like this game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deception_IV:_The_Nightmare_Princess but without the focus on anime women losing clothing.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Geokinesis posted:

but without the focus on anime women losing clothing.

Heresy

Are you looking for basebuilding elements or just tower defense gameplay? There is a game called Deathtrap on steam that has pretty decent reviews, seems like your thing

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Heresy

Are you looking for basebuilding elements or just tower defense gameplay? There is a game called Deathtrap on steam that has pretty decent reviews, seems like your thing

I'll have a look at Deathtrap thanks.

I think I'm more for just building stupid traps in chains. Like I've played evil genius so much from when it came out and creating long traps was amazing especially as they were fairly unique rather than spikes, bigger spikes, biggest spikes etc.

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms

Geokinesis posted:

I have WftO and tried orcs must die but ehhhhh. I dunno they just don't hit the right notes for me. Also Orcs must die had fps issues despite it being graphically consuming that the majority of my library.

Googling I'm thinking more like this game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deception_IV:_The_Nightmare_Princess but without the focus on anime women losing clothing.

I've never played it myself, but Mighty Quest for Epic Loot seems to have some trap focused gameplay. It's free-to-play so I guess all you'll lose is your time too.. :shrug:

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



Does anyone have any recomendations for co-op/Split screen games?i've played the lego games with MY WAIFU but everything else seems to be fpses..ses...and im looking for something less murderish.even recomendations for stuff like "keep talking and nobody dies" are welcome.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


There's a sidescroller called Chariot that's really good, along with Portal 2, Divinity Original Sin (RPG), and I guess Telltale's Batman now, kinda?

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

Ahundredbux posted:

I've never played it myself, but Mighty Quest for Epic Loot seems to have some trap focused gameplay. It's free-to-play so I guess all you'll lose is your time too.. :shrug:

Turns out it is closing down next month.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Geokinesis posted:

Turns out it is closing down next month.

Wait, really? It only came out last year, and that was all technically a beta still. that must be some kind of record

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
It's a phone game, so its not really that surprising.

Danger Mahoney
Mar 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

ChainsawCharlie posted:

Does anyone have any recomendations for co-op/Split screen games?i've played the lego games with MY WAIFU but everything else seems to be fpses..ses...and im looking for something less murderish.even recomendations for stuff like "keep talking and nobody dies" are welcome.

Magicka 1 and 2 are okay, Trine 1-3 are pretty good, and I think Don't Starve for ps4 has split screen coop. I know you said less murder, but Diablo 3 is pretty great for coop play.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

ChainsawCharlie posted:

Does anyone have any recomendations for co-op/Split screen games?i've played the lego games with MY WAIFU but everything else seems to be fpses..ses...and im looking for something less murderish.even recomendations for stuff like "keep talking and nobody dies" are welcome.

Portal 2 has co-op split-screen.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



Thanks everyone i completelly forgot about portal 2!

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

Geokinesis posted:

I have WftO and tried orcs must die but ehhhhh. I dunno they just don't hit the right notes for me. Also Orcs must die had fps issues despite it being graphically consuming that the majority of my library.

Googling I'm thinking more like this game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deception_IV:_The_Nightmare_Princess but without the focus on anime women losing clothing.

up to about Trapt deception games aren't too bad about anime women losing clothing but it starts getting pretty awful around that point. the first game has an entirely different feel to it than any other entries in the series and may be worth checking out, and kagero is where the idea of comboing traps into chains was really solidified

Remora
Aug 15, 2010

Is there an MMO besides Runescape where you can be a pretty much pure crafter? I'm pretty done with raids and level grinding and endgame content grinding and I would really like to run a shop or something in an MMO. I just like making stuff and participating in playerdriven economies, basically, and I can't keep track of what MMOs are good anymore.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Remora posted:

Is there an MMO besides Runescape where you can be a pretty much pure crafter? I'm pretty done with raids and level grinding and endgame content grinding and I would really like to run a shop or something in an MMO. I just like making stuff and participating in playerdriven economies, basically, and I can't keep track of what MMOs are good anymore.

Final Fantasy 14 has incredibly in depth crafting, to the point of having full gear itemization and specs. There is no option to set up a player run shop, but there is a market board (think auction house) that houses the player economy. The best things is that you don't need to level combat classes at all to craft (or gather).

Tenik
Jun 23, 2010


That's only true for the areas that were in the relaunch. If you want to access the 3.0 zones for gathering or crafting quests, you'll have to do the main story, which is A LOT of pve. With that said, ffxiv's crafting is really cool and has a lot of depth, including its own skills and rotations and buffs to manage.

EDIT: I've been in the mood for something Zelday for the past few months. What's the most Zelda-rear end game on pc? 2d preferred, but 3d is also good, as long as it doesn't have Assassins Creed or God of War style combat.

Tenik fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Sep 18, 2016

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

http://www.zeldaclassic.com/
?

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Tenik posted:

That's only true for the areas that were in the relaunch. If you want to access the 3.0 zones for gathering or crafting quests, you'll have to do the main story, which is A LOT of pve. With that said, ffxiv's crafting is really cool and has a lot of depth, including its own skills and rotations and buffs to manage.

EDIT: I've been in the mood for something Zelday for the past few months. What's the most Zelda-rear end game on pc? 2d preferred, but 3d is also good, as long as it doesn't have Assassins Creed or God of War style combat.

Oceanhorn

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
I'll recommend against Oceanhorn unless you can get it for super cheap. I found it really dull.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Tenik posted:

That's only true for the areas that were in the relaunch. If you want to access the 3.0 zones for gathering or crafting quests, you'll have to do the main story, which is A LOT of pve. With that said, ffxiv's crafting is really cool and has a lot of depth, including its own skills and rotations and buffs to manage.

This is true, but it is also important to note that the main story is very akin to a single player FF game, and can be played solo almost all the way through (with the occasional party based dungeon), so it isn't really the same experience as other MMOs.

Danknificent
Nov 20, 2015

Jinkies! Looks like we've got a mystery on our hands.
I need some recommendos for me and my filthy casuals.

What are some DM/TDM arena type FPS games that can be conveniently played online with friends, but also controlled without big server hassle/port opening antics? Like choosing map, setting player limits, and AI enemies and such? Something with at least a few decently small maps for smaller numbers of players.

Stuff like UT games spring to mind for me, but UT3 needs Hamachi, and such. Are any of the newer CoD games convenient for this type of thing?

We've been playing Murder Miners because it gives a nice, controlled bootleg Halo deathmatch that we can effortlessly play together, but it's a pretty rudimentary FPS, and I'd like something a little more interesting. Convenience is really what I'm looking for, because the people I play with aren't the savviest. I can even be hassled to open some ports if necessary. Doesn't have to be arena, can be whatever, just fun FPS.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Halo 5 on PC. You just need to be friends on Xbox Live, and the game is free on PC. Alternatively, UT4 or Screencheat.

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo

Tenik posted:

That's only true for the areas that were in the relaunch. If you want to access the 3.0 zones for gathering or crafting quests, you'll have to do the main story, which is A LOT of pve. With that said, ffxiv's crafting is really cool and has a lot of depth, including its own skills and rotations and buffs to manage.

EDIT: I've been in the mood for something Zelday for the past few months. What's the most Zelda-rear end game on pc? 2d preferred, but 3d is also good, as long as it doesn't have Assassins Creed or God of War style combat.

PS Now on PC has Shadow of the Colossus. Also while they weren't my thing, both Darksider's games. Oceanhorn is a mobile game, therefore it is awful.

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The Mantis
Jul 19, 2004

what is yall sayin?

credburn posted:

And ACTUALLY if someone could tell me if there's a particular name for this subgenre / gimmick that I'm talking about? I'm sorry; I haven't been on the Internet since 2006 and a lot has changed. Maybe this is a common term now.

let's talk about this part

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