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Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
Jameela Jamil is delightful.

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Escobarbarian posted:

This show is fuckin great

Yeah it's just pure enjoyment.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

That was a great ending. I'm excited for this.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
This surprised me.

End of the third episode is starting to confirm my suspicion that NONE of the people are supposed to be there. They are all just playing the part. Now this doesn't seem to be part of Michael's design, so either it's part of Michael's boss's system and he's not in on it, or it's going to turn out that some guy in a different department has been fudging numbers to meet quotas. Which is what I'm really hoping.

Janet is the best.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"
The twist is that nobody there belongs, even chidi. The good place is an experiment to see if actually awful people can be made better when told that they're good.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Snak posted:

This surprised me.

End of the third episode is starting to confirm my suspicion that NONE of the people are supposed to be there. They are all just playing the part. Now this doesn't seem to be part of Michael's design, so either it's part of Michael's boss's system and he's not in on it, or it's going to turn out that some guy in a different department has been fudging numbers to meet quotas. Which is what I'm really hoping.

Janet is the best.

Some of the people have to think they belong otherwise when Eleanor came out to Chidi he would have gone "Really? Me too!" But it may be a situation where those people just think they're good enough and have big enough egos to not question it.

emgeejay
Dec 8, 2007


*extremely Chidi voice* this just goes to the Wikipedia page

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
I like this show a lot but I'm worried because every other show I like with Ted Danson always gets...but this show is really good so I hope not.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Random Stranger posted:

Some of the people have to think they belong otherwise when Eleanor came out to Chidi he would have gone "Really? Me too!" But it may be a situation where those people just think they're good enough and have big enough egos to not question it.

That's a good point. I guess I don't think that everyone has a case of mistaken identity like Eleanor or Jianyu. But it definitely seems like Tahani gamed the system somehow, because like someone else said, she comes off as a pathological liar.

Chidi's an interesting case. He seems nice enough, but at the same time, he's a professor of ethics who isn't even sure that you can teach people to become good. Which means what, he spent his life educating people without trying to turn them into good people? His life's work is a book that was never published and, according to Michael, is incomprehensible. So I'm not saying he's a bad person, but it seems like at the very least he's an example of how the evaluation system works in kind of a strange way. I.e. did he even help anyone during is life, if was he just a nice person who didn't do anything wrong and thus accumulated a massive number of point without ever sticking his neck out for anything.

I guess it's a bit cynical to suspect that no one belongs there, but Michael himself punted a puppy into the sun because he thought it was somehow a thread to his perfect society. Surely that type of action would have a severe penalty if taken by a mortal during their life...

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I don't think our kicks would reach, really.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Escobarbarian posted:

I don't think our kicks would reach, really.

Well right, but surely you get what I'm saying.

edit: I expect the shows themes to be more about how dogmatic, objective evaluation of the goodness of people is a flawed concept and less about how everyone is actually lovely. Like I kind of wonder if Michael's boss just told him what he wanted to hear with regards things worked. Obviously that's what Michael does for his citizens (like with the dog construct).

Like I can just picture the scene where Michael is questioning God about how he knows everyone is going to the right fit for his perfect neighborhood and God is just like "because there's a very complicated evaluation process, stop worrying about it and finish the darn thing".

Regardless, there're a lot of possibilities, and the humor so far has been pretty great, so I look forward to seeing them explore this broken-ash afterlife.

Snak fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Sep 24, 2016

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
I feel like you've never met a humanities grad student, Snak.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

I feel like you've never met a humanities grad student, Snak.

Why is that? Because of my comments about Chidi, or because of my comments about Tahani?

edit: Oh, you mean because I said that Chidi didn't really do anything, when he would have actually gone and done plenty of good works just in the process of getting his degree? Which I think he mentioned in the pilot? Yes, I thought of that, but it seemed slightly contradicted by episode 3, where Michael said he had really only done this one thing, and it seemed like he really didn't like doing much of anything that involved working or traveling. I assumed this was simply a retcon because of how characters change from a pilot to a show.

No, I haven't met a humanities grad student, I'm just going off of the show's logic. The way that things work in real-life is rarely relevant to how they work in tvland.

Snak fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Sep 24, 2016

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
I think it's more that incomprehensible, convoluted nonsense is par for the course when it comes to philosophical papers. Did you ever read Kants works? To be honest I didn't either, but I skimmed through them and know a few people who did.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
The first 2 episodes were fantastic but 3 puts it over the top. So many great lines. "This thing taught me what headaches are."

e: Kristen Bell is terrifyingly adorable. Who wouldn't boop her nose?!

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

Air is lava! posted:

I think it's more that incomprehensible, convoluted nonsense is par for the course when it comes to philosophical papers. Did you ever read Kants works? To be honest I didn't either, but I skimmed through them and know a few people who did.

Kant's writing is so dense and incomprehensible, Kant himself apologizes for how bad his philosophical writing is. In fact, if you read Kant's non-philosophical writings, you wouldn't even know it's the same guy.

Episode 3 definitely sold me completely. Having two Schur shows to look forward to each week is such a treat. :allears:

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
B99 has never really felt like a Schur show to me, especially since season 2. It's cool as heck though

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

B99 has always been Goor's baby more than Schur's.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Yeah, I always got the sense Schur was essentially the mentor on that one - the Greg Daniels to Goor's him. Plus he was running Parks when they were on at the same time. This show, though.....even if it didn't have a sole creator credit it would so obviously be his baby. I'm keeping my eyes peeled for Infinite Jest references.

York_M_Chan
Sep 11, 2003

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

I like this show a lot but I'm worried because every other show I like with Ted Danson always gets...but this show is really good so I hope not.

Bored To Death is one of the greatest TV shows ever.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Thwomp posted:

The third episode should really be Pilot pt 3 because the ending of it really cemented this show for me.
Yeah, I wasn't entirely sold until the end of episode three but now I'm convinced it's going to be worth watching.

Ammanas posted:

The twist is that nobody there belongs, even chidi.
My guess is that each pair of supposed soul mates is actually one "good person" who earned a lot of points in life but is still terrible in less quantifiable ways and one "bad person" who thinks they got sent there by mistake and the idea is that they'll somehow reform each other.

Random Stranger posted:

Some of the people have to think they belong otherwise when Eleanor came out to Chidi he would have gone "Really? Me too!" But it may be a situation where those people just think they're good enough and have big enough egos to not question it.
They must have the correct life histories though, because Eleanor's was just completely wrong in every detail and that would be impossible to overlook.

York_M_Chan posted:

Bored To Death is one of the greatest TV shows ever.
I wouldn't go that far, but I thought it was pretty good.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender
Is this show airing things out of order? Because no one in the thread seems to have mentioned seeing Episode 4, but the next one to air is listed as Episode 5. I might not have been paying attention last night, but I don't think I missed Episode 4?

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
It's weird you'd think literally everyone else has it wrong rather than your TV guide or whatever is showing the wrong episode

Tomorrow's episode is 4

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


That'a dope prank.

Edit: "The Good Plates."

muscles like this! fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Sep 30, 2016

Jax-Guy1
Apr 25, 2011
As someone who lives in Jacksonville, this is pretty funny.

Edit: Did Jason just yell "Bortles"? Lol

Jax-Guy1 fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Sep 30, 2016

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova
I've been solidly enjoying this show but the conversation between Jason and Acidcat was the first bit that had me cackling

"I just got an offer to DJ Scott Disick's afterparty for the amateur porn awards in Reno."
"Whoa! Congrats bro, that's the dream!"
"That's your dream, man; it's my Tuesday."

xbilkis fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Sep 30, 2016

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Let me show you me budhole.

Jason Jian Yu owns a lot.

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

I am here to learn about ethnics.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
AM I??




Fun Shoe
From the trailers, I thought this show looked incredibly stupid. My wife was determined to watch this show, though, so we gave it a chance, and I have to say, it seems to work.

Usually, the disparity between trailers and the actual show works the other way around. But not here. This show is pretty funny.

I bet $3.29 that nobody is supposed to be there, and that they are, in fact, being surreptitiously rehabilitated into good people so they can go to the real good place.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

tarlibone posted:

I bet $3.29 that nobody is supposed to be there, and that they are, in fact, being surreptitiously rehabilitated into good people so they can go to the real good place.

The chef actually seems like a good person.
"The more the merrier."

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Zaggitz posted:

I am here to learn about ethnics.
Is there a football team and a prom?

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



cant cook creole bream posted:

The chef actually seems like a good person.
"The more the merrier."

Yeah, I'm not buying the theory that *everyone* is there incorrectly.

ricro
Dec 22, 2008
That was my first thought too, but it doesn't fully fit after the last couple episodes. My guess would be more that there isn't really a "Good Place" and "Bad Place" but rather a series of similar neighborhoods, and whoever is in charge above Danson is trying to sell the idea that this is the only good afterlife

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Has anyone gone back to see if you can actually make out the story the soup guy was telling?

MrBuddyLee
Aug 24, 2004
IN DEBUT, I SPEW!!!
I didn't like this episode as much for some reason. I think part of the problem is that Ted Danson's character and Tahani are both annoying as hell and were alone in a scene together. Never do that again. Kristin Bell and/or Jason Mendoza must be in every scene! :D This episode's writing felt clunky, with occasional moments of brilliance.

Tahani's schtick needs to take a turn, pronto. Hopefully her seedy underbelly is revealed soon, and hopefully there's another side to Ted Danson's character too beyond "golly gee willikers".

Test Pattern
Dec 20, 2007

Keep scrolling, clod!
I'm loath to buy into the aliens/future cyrotechs theories, but drat were Michael and Janet acting particularly like aliens that episode (or to be more accurate, an alien and his AI that does all the actual work).

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
"I think we might be in an alien zoo or a prank show" is probably a more logical guess than afterlife run by middle management.

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Where the gently caress did Elinor get that leather jacket? There must be some deleted scene there because it comes out of nowhere.

FoxTerrier
Feb 15, 2012

Perfectly logical poster who uses the tools available to him to come to solid conclusions

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

Where the gently caress did Elinor get that leather jacket? There must be some deleted scene there because it comes out of nowhere.

From the 'Anticipated Needs' store?

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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Test Pattern posted:

I'm loath to buy into the aliens/future cyrotechs theories, but drat were Michael and Janet acting particularly like aliens that episode (or to be more accurate, an alien and his AI that does all the actual work).

Michael mentioned in a previous episode that before the current neighborhood started he didn't have a body.

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