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Somebody Awful
Nov 27, 2011

BORN TO DIE
HAIG IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1917
I am trench man
410,757,864,530 SHELLS FIRED


Syrian government forces carried out a third chemical weapons attack last year, a confidential report to the UN Security Council has found.

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Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

So, I bought a E-2C Hawkeye model kit. And I was thinking: if you could name a Hawkeye wing and give it a logo for its radar dish, what would it be?

I was thinking "Beholders" with a DnD beholder, but I'd like to throw it to the floor for suggestions.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Nebakenezzer posted:

So, I bought a E-2C Hawkeye model kit. And I was thinking: if you could name a Hawkeye wing and give it a logo for its radar dish, what would it be?

I was thinking "Beholders" with a DnD beholder, but I'd like to throw it to the floor for suggestions.

"Illuminati", with the eye of providence on the dish.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

Nebakenezzer posted:

So, I bought a E-2C Hawkeye model kit. And I was thinking: if you could name a Hawkeye wing and give it a logo for its radar dish, what would it be?

I was thinking "Beholders" with a DnD beholder, but I'd like to throw it to the floor for suggestions.

"Eye of Sauron" with appropriate flaming eyeball on top? "Sky Eye" with an Ace Combat livery? "Xatu" with a bunch of Pokemon, a-la ANA's Pokemon jets?

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Cat Mattress posted:

"Illuminati", with the eye of providence on the dish.

VAW-127 Illuminati: "Seeing But Unseen"

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Cat Mattress posted:

"Illuminati", with the eye of providence on the dish.

yup

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Cat Mattress posted:

"Illuminati", with the eye of providence on the dish.

That's pretty good.

So's the Screwtops, honestly.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



45 RPM adapter like this:



and name it "Radar Love"

Edit: For the Hawkeye model, of course.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Davin Valkri posted:

"Eye of Sauron" with appropriate flaming eyeball on top?

This is what I would love to see on the domes of the Hawkeyes in Fallon, to go along with the "adversary" paint scheme like Hornets and Vipers get.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Shooting Blanks posted:

45 RPM adapter like this:



and name it "Radar Love"

Edit: For the Hawkeye model, of course.

:corsair:

Screwtops are probably the best real USN AEW squadron name.

Dark Helmut
Jul 24, 2004

All growns up
If it doesn't involve the Alan Parsons Project, I don't want to hear any more about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-41tg_CS7s

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011
VAW-69 "Neapolitans" with a vanilla-chocolate-strawberry swirl and sprinkles on top.

VAW-51 "Saucerers" with a UFO dome, lights along the side and a giant Grey Alien face on top.

Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Oct 22, 2016

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Dead Reckoning posted:

VAW-51 "Saucerers" with a UFO dome, lights along the side and a giant Grey Alien face on top.

I can't find a photo of this but it sounds awesome - got a link?

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Dark Helmut posted:

If it doesn't involve the Alan Parsons Project, I don't want to hear any more about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-41tg_CS7s

Lol

VAW-45 Sky Eyes - "I can read your mind"

For some reason I'm reminded of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi-bXBnKXJg

Sounds like a Vietnam-era unit. Maybe a gunship. AC-119: Sign of the Gypsy Queens

Dead Reckoning posted:

VAW-69 "Neapolitans" with a vanilla-chocolate-strawberry swirl and sprinkles on top.

VAW-51 "Saucerers" with a UFO dome, lights along the side and a giant Grey Alien face on top.

:allears:

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
I know NATO has to give this thing a "B" name, but damned if they shouldn't break from tradition and call this thing the Platypus if this is a reasonable render:

http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/10/russia-claims-progress-on-new-pak-da.html

Shalhavet
Dec 10, 2010

This post is terrible
Doctor Rope
gently caress no, call it the Dahir-Insaat.

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR

BIG HEADLINE posted:

I know NATO has to give this thing a "B" name, but damned if they shouldn't break from tradition and call this thing the Platypus if this is a reasonable render:

http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/10/russia-claims-progress-on-new-pak-da.html

The Batray.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
it clearly should be the Blyat

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here
B-2ski

Batusi

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

Shooting Blanks posted:

I can't find a photo of this but it sounds awesome - got a link?

It isn't a real thing; we're spitballing fake squadrons for Nebakenezzer's plastic E-2 hawkeye model.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

VikingSkull posted:

it clearly should be the Blyat

Blyat-FA.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

BIG HEADLINE posted:

I know NATO has to give this thing a "B" name, but damned if they shouldn't break from tradition and call this thing the Platypus if this is a reasonable render:

http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/10/russia-claims-progress-on-new-pak-da.html

Coming soon to a humanitarian aid convoy near you!

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

StandardVC10 posted:

Coming soon to a humanitarian aid convoy near you!

:drat:

All things considered, though - I can't imagine the render there is very accurate, since those winglets would not only compromise the stealth of the plane from head on, but heavily imply that Russia hasn't cracked making proper flying wing designs yet.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


VikingSkull posted:

it clearly should be the Blyat

:five:

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

BIG HEADLINE posted:

:drat:

All things considered, though - I can't imagine the render there is very accurate, since those winglets would not only compromise the stealth of the plane from head on, but heavily imply that Russia hasn't cracked making proper flying wing designs yet.

I'd imagine their software is..... lacking compared to ours.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Sperglord Actual posted:

...Thoroughly overrated?

The ME-262 didn't change the course of the air-war but it did make the allies have to change how they fought it.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Stairmaster posted:

The ME-262 didn't change the course of the air-war but it did make the allies have to change how they fought it.

Well, Hitler also looked at it and saw a 'bomber,' too. I guess meth and syphilis can gently caress up your perception. :v:

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde

Cat Mattress posted:

A JH-7 floundered near Liuzhou and barely missed the industrial zone. Both pilots ejected.


Is this pretty common?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PNQ8Ovp6NA

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
I'd imagine in this instance it's a "Hey Jiang, take another plane out of its storage crate" thing.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde

BIG HEADLINE posted:

I'd imagine in this instance it's a "Hey Jiang, take another plane out of its storage crate" thing.

Can I get one shipped to me (some assembly required) from China? Kind of like the army jeeps of old?

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Dead Reckoning posted:

It isn't a real thing; we're spitballing fake squadrons for Nebakenezzer's plastic E-2 hawkeye model.

I'm an idiot, I thought I was in a different thread :doh:

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Stairmaster posted:

The ME-262 didn't change the course of the air-war but it did make the allies have to change how they fought it.

Not really. I mean, they made a bit of an effort to sweep airfields and get them on landing, but they were doing that already under the general heading of "let's kill off the Luftwaffe."

It pushed some slight tweaks in tactics, but it didn't fundamentally change how the air war was prosecuted.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
It's pretty likely that if Germany had been able to field them faster, earlier, and/or in larger numbers to where they were a primary feature of the Luftwaffe while it was still relevant, it would've had a major effect on strategic bombing. B-17 formations couldn't effectively deal with the broadside rocket attack, and the only reason it didn't have a huge impact is that there were only a handful of 262s actually taking part and they were basically done at that point. A bomber hit was in much more dire straights than if hit by the smaller (but related) cannon rounds. The rockets could be devastating. If you force the US to stop daytime strategic bombing, which Spaatz was voicing concern about...well, by 1944 it's too late anyway, but it would definitely be a fundamental change.

What is it with Germany smashing its own thumb with a hammer by taking straight-line high performance jets and trying to force them into the ground attack role? Ugh.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Godholio posted:

What is it with Germany smashing its own thumb with a hammer by taking straight-line high performance jets and trying to force them into the ground attack role? Ugh.

It's the most redeeming feature of the way Nazi Germany worked.

TasogareNoKagi
Jul 11, 2013

BIG HEADLINE posted:

I know NATO has to give this thing a "B" name, but damned if they shouldn't break from tradition and call this thing the Platypus if this is a reasonable render:

http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/10/russia-claims-progress-on-new-pak-da.html

Stealth Vulcan :britain:

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

TasogareNoKagi posted:

Stealth Vulcan :britain:

Bulcan

I guess "Bullcan" wouldn't be odder than Frogfoot or Fishbed.

married but discreet
May 7, 2005


Taco Defender
Bad low poly vaporware

winnydpu
May 3, 2007
Sugartime Jones

Godholio posted:

What is it with Germany smashing its own thumb with a hammer by taking straight-line high performance jets and trying to force them into the ground attack role? Ugh.

I've never quite been comfortable with this line. When I was a kid watching documentaries in the early '80s there was always a german dude interviewed saying that Hitler held up development for a year by insisting that they add bomb racks, etc. All his fault, the German high command didn't make any strategic mistakes.

Just speculating that by the time production had geared up and the engine reliability issues sorted out to the half-assed degree that they were it was already too late to try for air superiority. The experienced core of pilots was mostly gone, the fuel situation was collapsing, etc. What if they had 400 or 500 fast, low level light bombers to disrupt the Normandy invasion fleet? It is not obvious to me that 500 knot fighters were all that much more effective vs the bombers than 400 knot fighters. Maybe they could ignore the escorts for the first pass, but the jets were not a game-changer. Using them to challenge the D-day invasion as light bombers might not have been a game changer either, but I don't think it was as clear-cut as it is usually presented.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

You're basically right. I got two sentences into saying roughly the same thing and then said gently caress it because I'm on a phone.

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Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Also other planes used those rockets and had 30mm cannon. It was a good package together with the speed but it wasn't like b17s were only eating 20mm and mg before the 262 flew.

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