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Eight Dollars
Nov 14, 2012

Pretty pictures in small frames
That's the only possibility I can think of. It can't be a busdriver. Could be some unorthodox role.

The other option of course is that he's lying. His role could be pretty easy to fake imo.

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CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

8Bux what do you do are you a farting butt?

JimsonTheBetrayer
Oct 13, 2010

Game's over, and fuck you Jimson. It's not my fault that you guys couldn't get your shit together by deadline. No one gets access to docs because I don't fucking care anymore, I hope you all enjoyed ruining my game, and there won't be another.
we can just assume I am lying, and then lynch me. If we keep up these no night kills I'm useless anyway.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

JimsonTheBetrayer posted:

we can just assume I am lying, and then lynch me. If we keep up these no night kills I'm useless anyway.
Now now. You'd be useless even if there were night kills.

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

So scum 1 is still a thing btw. It's not Keane but it sounded a lot like Keane. I had assumed if it wasn't Keane it was Poque. But Chaos, did you rolecop him, is that your claim? So you know he's really what he says he is?

Could it have been Pmush? Doesn't seem like her, but I'm having a hard time slotting Gulag into any place but 2 if he is the last scum.

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

JimsonTheBetrayer posted:

we can just assume I am lying, and then lynch me. If we keep up these no night kills I'm useless anyway.

2 people died last night.

JimsonTheBetrayer
Oct 13, 2010

Game's over, and fuck you Jimson. It's not my fault that you guys couldn't get your shit together by deadline. No one gets access to docs because I don't fucking care anymore, I hope you all enjoyed ruining my game, and there won't be another.

King Burgundy posted:

2 people died last night.

OOOH I didn't notice that! Nvm i'll come back next night with some new uh... information ;)

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Still pending gulag's claim, but as I sit here I think the optimal play is

Lunch Gulag
If not scum, have Keane jail and execute Jimson
If scum, have Keane jail and execute Poque to end game.

Poque can't kill tonight so no reason to deal with him until tomorrow IMO.

If we get to me Keane KB Poque and 8bux with no scum having flipped yet, then lunch 8bux and have Keane jail and execute Poque.

Would leave me Keane and KB and if we haven't won at that point lynch a non Keane player and then have Keane jail and execute the other, leaving Keane as the sole survivor.

JimsonTheBetrayer
Oct 13, 2010

Game's over, and fuck you Jimson. It's not my fault that you guys couldn't get your shit together by deadline. No one gets access to docs because I don't fucking care anymore, I hope you all enjoyed ruining my game, and there won't be another.

CCKeane posted:

Now now. You'd be useless even if there were night kills.

I'd say i'd wreck u boi. but you'd probably end me.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


King Burgundy posted:

So scum 1 is still a thing btw. It's not Keane but it sounded a lot like Keane. I had assumed if it wasn't Keane it was Poque. But Chaos, did you rolecop him, is that your claim? So you know he's really what he says he is?

Could it have been Pmush? Doesn't seem like her, but I'm having a hard time slotting Gulag into any place but 2 if he is the last scum.

Yeah I rolecopped him and got mass murderer. I told Tobbs in a reply that no one was going to believe that claim since Jedits flip said "the mass murderer" and since rolecop is a traditionally scum role I would be lunched and I blamed Tobbs for that. Luckily looks like my claim is believable

Eight Dollars
Nov 14, 2012

Pretty pictures in small frames
I'm going to do an ~8BUX LIST~

Here's what Asiina and Pmush thought about everyone.

Asiina
CCKeane - "would vote a lurker like Keane," "PMush/CCKeane scumteam"
chaoslord - doesn't know bubble bobble
Eightbux - wounded her with my vote, my letter from home is going in the fire
Gulag - this post
Jimson - this post, confused over role claim
KB - defended during Jedit fight,
Poque - didn't understand his PMush town argument

PMush
CCKeane - nothing
chaoslord - pushes case on him after being cased
Eightbux - says is probably not scum 2
Gulag - vote at beginning of game, "Gulag might not be telling the whole truth," "Gut says... I'm not sure, maybe Gulag."
Jimson - complains that he's MIA
KB - slightly but barely defends in one post in Jedit fight, says is probably not scum 2
Poque - suggests she might shoot him or Asiina

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

chaoslord posted:

Still pending gulag's claim, but as I sit here I think the optimal play is

Lunch Gulag
If not scum, have Keane jail and execute Jimson
If scum, have Keane jail and execute Poque to end game.

Poque can't kill tonight so no reason to deal with him until tomorrow IMO.

If we get to me Keane KB Poque and 8bux with no scum having flipped yet, then lunch 8bux and have Keane jail and execute Poque.

Would leave me Keane and KB and if we haven't won at that point lynch a non Keane player and then have Keane jail and execute the other, leaving Keane as the sole survivor.

This sounds mostly alright, but I'm not sure the jailer kill will go through Poque's BP. He'll have to be the cuddle tomorrow instead of a Keane execute.

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

chaoslord posted:

Yeah I rolecopped him and got mass murderer. I told Tobbs in a reply that no one was going to believe that claim since Jedits flip said "the mass murderer" and since rolecop is a traditionally scum role I would be lunched and I blamed Tobbs for that. Luckily looks like my claim is believable

Nice.

Eight Dollars
Nov 14, 2012

Pretty pictures in small frames

CCKeane posted:

8Bux what do you do are you a farting butt?

I am a fancy escort who loves drinking and steaks.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=

Eight Dollars posted:

So this means that, if Jimson is telling the truth, I was redirected to Kash and we've got a witch on our hands.

gulag threw out the word 'witch' earlier apropos of nothing

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


King Burgundy posted:

This sounds mostly alright, but I'm not sure the jailer kill will go through Poque's BP. He'll have to be the cuddle tomorrow instead of a Keane execute.

Duh and we even brought that up earlier. Probably an easy fix but I really think Gulag is the last scum at this point so don't see particular need the rest of the steps

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=

chaoslord posted:

Yeah I rolecopped him and got mass murderer. I told Tobbs in a reply that no one was going to believe that claim since Jedits flip said "the mass murderer" and since rolecop is a traditionally scum role I would be lunched and I blamed Tobbs for that. Luckily looks like my claim is believable

driving home from bowling I realized I forgot that cop existed and wished I had claimed that I bus drove myself with Gulag.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=
or in this case rolecop, but in reality cop

Eight Dollars
Nov 14, 2012

Pretty pictures in small frames
I'll be back tomorrow, but now I want to watch "Terrace House: Boys and Girls in the City"

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=

Eight Dollars posted:

I'll be back tomorrow, but now I want to watch "Terrace House: Boys and Girls in the City"

##vote weight but

Eight Dollars
Nov 14, 2012

Pretty pictures in small frames

Poque posted:

##vote weight but

ITS A GREAT SHOW. They're just about to go to Yuki's tap dance jazz concert!

One thing I noticed during my skimthrough. Gulag literally calls out a scum team of "Jedit, PMush and Asiina" at one point. If he is scum all three of them spent so much time busing each other to death.

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Also, Kash was lying about his hat, rofl. The thing that made me weirded out was in fact a lie.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

chaoslord posted:

Still pending gulag's claim, but as I sit here I think the optimal play is

Lunch Gulag
If not scum, have Keane jail and execute Jimson
If scum, have Keane jail and execute Poque to end game.

Poque can't kill tonight so no reason to deal with him until tomorrow IMO.

If we get to me Keane KB Poque and 8bux with no scum having flipped yet, then lunch 8bux and have Keane jail and execute Poque.

Would leave me Keane and KB and if we haven't won at that point lynch a non Keane player and then have Keane jail and execute the other, leaving Keane as the sole survivor.

Works for me.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Poque posted:

driving home from bowling I realized I forgot that cop existed and wished I had claimed that I bus drove myself with Gulag.

That would have really messed me up

JimsonTheBetrayer
Oct 13, 2010

Game's over, and fuck you Jimson. It's not my fault that you guys couldn't get your shit together by deadline. No one gets access to docs because I don't fucking care anymore, I hope you all enjoyed ruining my game, and there won't be another.
this is me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAm6mj9Qf6I

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

Eight Dollars posted:

That's the only possibility I can think of. It can't be a busdriver. Could be some unorthodox role.

The other option of course is that he's lying. His role could be pretty easy to fake imo.

think again

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

Poque posted:

gulag threw out the word 'witch' earlier apropos of nothing

no I didn't, poque. do not lie. this is what I said.

GulagDolls posted:

wow. all these cool new role and im some stupid bullshit from 600 years ago when proto mafia was played by cavemen. gently caress you tobbs



night 1 i drove kashuno and asiina

night 2 i drove 8bux and jimson

night 3 i tried to drive poque and keane but it failed.

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

oh i made 8bux roleblock himself n2 lol

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

Poque posted:

Oddly it feels like a wipe for scum but chaos is really the only "confirmed" townie right now

"confirmed" in what way

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
:ghost:killing me was a bitch move:ghost:

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Hmmmmmmmmmm

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Hey Gulag, who is scum?

JimsonTheBetrayer
Oct 13, 2010

Game's over, and fuck you Jimson. It's not my fault that you guys couldn't get your shit together by deadline. No one gets access to docs because I don't fucking care anymore, I hope you all enjoyed ruining my game, and there won't be another.

GulagDolls posted:

oh i made 8bux roleblock himself n2 lol

He handcuffed himself to himself and beat himself for information.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


KB you're pretty sure of Keane's alignment yeah?

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

chaoslord posted:

KB you're pretty sure of Keane's alignment yeah?

It would be an incredible con at this point for him to be scum. That would mean he decided to jail the scum kill target on the day that Kash was jailed and did it with no coordination at all based on what we saw in scum chat. I guess it's not impossible, like maybe he was so busy he didn't notice the scum kill was on Kash when he targeted him? But I'd say I'm 75% sure he's not scum. The 25% comes from the fact that he supposedly tried to self jail himself on N1, which makes no sense at all since jailers can't typically target themselves, especially given the extras in his role(jail doc, execute).

He could still be 3p, but we need to worry about scum and the outted mass murderer over any other theoretical folks.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=

GulagDolls posted:

no I didn't, poque. do not lie. this is what I said.

You're right, I remember somebody throwing 'witch' out there though. maybe it's just your av that made me remember it as you

JimsonTheBetrayer posted:

Lol gulag is a witch. Lynch all witches tbh

it was jimson accusing you of it

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=

GulagDolls posted:

"confirmed" in what way

I guess it's just the role and not the alignment. but with this many scum and no claimed alignment cop (?!) that seems to be the best town would get

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

King Burgundy posted:

Hey Gulag, who is scum?

in order of not scum to scum

poque, despite being a murder man is probably not last scum since chaoslord confirms he is the murder man.
probably not keane since he hasnt been killing people
8bux did roleblock me last night. if he was scum, I wouldnt see the reason for targeting me. Also, the silencer couldn't silence and kill at the same time, so unless Tobbs does the thing where final scum left will get the ability to act and kill, which I don't see often, I don't see how it can be him

I was thinking it could be you, as thus far it seems like you've never really been gunning for scum, and also I can never read you, but, your play seems to have been earnest, and you said at least a day before your roleclaim that your role was pretty standard so I kinda buy the survivor claim.

jimson is a big question mark. I'm spooked by chaoslord because

chaoslord posted:

I am 100% confident that Pmush is lying. Whether she got lucky that Jedit flipped BP or if she would just ride a RB claim to the end, I'd believe either.

Her actions around her N2 vig are inconsistent with town play IMO. I was her top scum pick but didn't make her shortlist of "who will I vig tonight?" Then, she went from Poque being probably to landing on Asiina. Fair enough, Asiina was her #2 now (somehow), but why Asiina? If Pmush wanted to shoot Asiina that means she found something that makes Asiina scum in the night read she did. So why is Pmush not presenting that to the class?

Pmush is not trying to hunt scum.


why wouldn't poison mushroom just have put chaoslord on the kill list, or, killed him. i don't really see the point of arbitrarily not putting chaoslord on the kill list, unless, there was an actual reason that pmush didnt want chaoslord killed. its a weird thing to do with no perceivable benefit if chaoslord is town

also there's the thing about talking to Tobbs about his rolecop result.... idk....does anyone really talk to moderator in PM...i sure dont.


quote:

The 25% comes from the fact that he supposedly tried to self jail himself on N1, which makes no sense at all since jailers can't typically target themselves, especially given the extras in his role(jail doc, execute).

yeah, that is weird. he would basically be invulnerable?

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

chaoslord, did you ever say who else you rolecopped?

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chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


GulagDolls posted:

chaoslord, did you ever say who else you rolecopped?

In a few different posts, yeah

N1 I tried Dick but a) got roleblocked and b) he died anyway
N2 I did PMush, which is why I was so confident she was lying about the vig
N3 I did Poque, which is how I knew he was lying about his role

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