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Eothas' back, and this time, he's mad! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ega5Rcct2s
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2house2fly posted:OK it's Eder's pipe and piece of hay, and I don't remember hearing that bit of dialogue in the game. Pillars Of Eternity official soundtrack CD release?? Looks like they might be doing PoE II with character transfer, like BG1 -> BG2. So Eder will presumably be a companion in PoE II as well. Ambivalent on this. I like transferring characters/story in theory, but the power curve in PoE was pretty good. You go from being scared of a bear to killing dragons like it ain't no thing and smacking around divine avatars. Like where do you go from there for moment to moment gameplay? Iffy on power bloat. quote:"Oh, adventurers! You've arrived just in time! There are disturbing noises coming from my basement, the baby can barely sleep!" Still... bring it on!
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Jan 18, 2017 20:48
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Hyped for Pillars of Eternity: Tales from the Eastern Reach, a Telltale games story
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Fintilgin posted:Looks like they might be doing PoE II with character transfer, like BG1 -> BG2. So Eder will presumably be a companion in PoE II as well. Eh your weird watcher abilities somehow cause a power downgrade or maybe you get captured and have our levels drained and equipment stolen.
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Jan 18, 2017 21:01
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:maybe you get captured and have our levels drained and equipment stolen. :no: :no forever:  I'd rather have power bloat.
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Jan 18, 2017 21:06
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Power bloat ruled in Baldur's Gate/MotB but mostly because I had read Forgotten Realms books throughout my youth and punching out gods I had read about for years was awesome. I think the PoE universe is still too new for the bloat to have the same emotional impact.
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Jan 18, 2017 21:08
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frajaq posted:don't disappoint me like Tyranny did please tyranny was better than pillars
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AfricanBootyShine posted:Power bloat ruled in Baldur's Gate/MotB but mostly because I had read Forgotten Realms books throughout my youth and punching out gods I had read about for years was awesome. I think too much power bloat too fast cheapens things. On reflection I think PoE might have sinned a bit in this regard. If you're going to do a series of games with save game import and carry-over characters you probably should have left dragon killing and one-on-one time with Gods for one of the...uh... later games, not shot your load on Game 1 of ?. Still, I can't deny I'll get not-so-secret glee from being able to carry over my character between games. 
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Jan 18, 2017 21:15
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Fintilgin posted:Looks like they might be doing PoE II with character transfer, like BG1 -> BG2. So Eder will presumably be a companion in PoE II as well. Eder could show up as a companion in PoE2 without necessarily having character transfer or playing as the Watcher again. He and the Watcher went their separate ways at the end of PoE--who's to say we're not playing as someone new whom Eder ends up teaming up with as well? And he's low level again because it's been like 10 years or something and he's out of practice. Unless there's some other indication that you carry over between games that I'm missing, of course.
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Harrow posted:Eder could show up as a companion in PoE2 without necessarily having character transfer or playing as the Watcher again. He and the Watcher went their separate ways at the end of PoE--who's to say we're not playing as someone new whom Eder ends up teaming up with as well? And he's low level again because it's been like 10 years or something and he's out of practice. No, just guessing. I think Josh Sawyer has said it was something they wanted to shoot for, and having Eder carry over as a character makes it more likely we'll have save import, play the same Watcher. We'll see when they announce it.
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He could also be a quest-giver or a recruitement option for your stronghold. There are plenty of ways to tie Eder into the storyline without making him a direct companion.
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Also please send us far away from that boring country in the first game thanks also bring back Hiravias and Durance
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Kurtofan posted:tyranny was better than pillars yeah at sucking
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Samuel Clemens posted:Eder without making him a direct companion.
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He retired to the Vailian capital city, where he owns a zoo 
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And much to his dismay, he only managed to secure fishes and reptiles, nothing with fur.
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If the situation doesn't warrant powerbloat it would be a bit of going back on plans because the intent stated in the original Kickstarter was to position the power curve ahead of a BG and closer to an IWD end or early BG2, but with leaving room to turn into mythical badasses like BG2&TOB for a sequel if demand was there. A lot of people were ready for God rear end Kicking Tour of Eora 2824 after the finale, and even if you aren't out to outright gently caress with the gods the set up is there for the watcher to be a person important enough to continue talking to them throughout a POE2.
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If that quote does represent the writing and themes of Pillars of Eternity 2, I'm excited. Religion and religious longing are great story themes, but I tend to fall asleep when we start hearing about "soul energy," "crystals" or gods-as-superheroes, which is how religion is so often treated in genre fiction of all stripes. I will give it some latitude for introducing the setting, but in Pillars of Eternity souls in some ways felt like Final Fantasy crystals-a poorly developed mystical trope. I'm optimistic that with the second outing they'll be more confident in the setting-and hopefully go through more drafts of the story. Pillars of Eternity definitely felt like a rough draft, again probably because it was a Kickstarter project for a frail company and the first in a series.
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Kurtofan posted:tyranny was better than pillars Better at being the worst thing I've ever wasted $40 on.
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prometheusbound2 posted:If that quote does represent the writing and themes of Pillars of Eternity 2, I'm excited. Religion and religious longing are great story themes, but I tend to fall asleep when we start hearing about "soul energy," "crystals" or gods-as-superheroes, which is how religion is so often treated in genre fiction of all stripes. I will give it some latitude for introducing the setting, but in Pillars of Eternity souls in some ways felt like Final Fantasy crystals-a poorly developed mystical trope. I'm optimistic that with the second outing they'll be more confident in the setting-and hopefully go through more drafts of the story. Pillars of Eternity definitely felt like a rough draft, again probably because it was a Kickstarter project for a frail company and the first in a series. I liked the original story well enough. I feel like the expansions added a lot to flesh things out though in terms of the Gods and their motivations. My one complaint really is that I think the actual background story of POE1 is more interesting than the one they give you. The Thaos storyline is cool and fine but imagine playing a game where you live out the Eothas events. A God made flesh and a war and a big fuckin' bomb. It's just such a rad backstory. I really wanted to learn more about it or even experience it. It was by far the most interesting storyline for me at least. But if Poe2 is about Eothas I imagine we'll get more about those events.
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New Vegas had some of that too- the original battle of Hoover Dam was full of epic feats of derring-do, but here you are ferrying tchotchkes around the desert. Same with KOTOR2 actually, though in that case the backstory was largely backstory that was also in KOTOR1
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bongwizzard posted:Better at being the worst thing I've ever wasted $40 on. Yeah. Tyranny had some interesting ideas, but as a game it was pretty average and not worth the asking price.
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PoE developer commentary stream earlier today: https://www.twitch.tv/obsidian/v/115697112 e: White March at level 6, already good start e: Josh talks about hey maybe don't delete that PoE1 endgame save cause you might need it later Scorchy fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Jan 19, 2017 |
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DoNotFeedTheBear posted:Yeah. Tyranny had some interesting ideas, but as a game it was pretty average and not worth the asking price. I liked Tyranny. The magic system is fun, when you aren't locked away from essentials because you did or didn't do a thing at the start of the game. The story was far, far, far better for a few reasons: I cared more about my main character, my motivations and goals were a lot clearer, I felt like I had an impact depending on the choices I made, alternate routes means I can change what I was doing or more aligned with what I wanted, villains were clearly defined (or at least clearly set up, depending how what you do). The only thing I really disliked is that the game difficulty assumed you had certain spells, and if you didn't it was staggeringly hard. If you did, the game became a series of "buff up, right click to blow up entire groups of baddies".
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Scorchy posted:e: Josh talks about hey maybe don't delete that PoE1 endgame save cause you might need it later I do wonder what exactly is going to carry over. I know I've seen Josh talk about how they want decisions from PoE1 to carry over to 2, but I'm still slightly skeptical that we're going to play as the Watcher again or, if we do, that we'll carry over our levels and powers and stuff. If we play as the Watcher again, there's no way we start out as a superpowered badass who routinely slays dragons.
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I wonder if it'll be a a continuation of The White March's conflict with Abydon's personality, only this time with Eothas' rebirth. Goes from peace and love redemption to CLEANSING FIRE!!!! kind of redemption.
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I hope we play as the Watcher and the running joke will be "why does all this crazy poo poo happen to me?!" John McClane kind of thing. By Pillars 4 I better be shooting down dragons with a horse drawn carriage.
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Jimbot posted:I hope we play as the Watcher and the running joke will be "why does all this crazy poo poo happen to me?!" John McClane kind of thing. By Pillars 4 I better be shooting down dragons with a horse drawn carriage. If we do play as the Watcher, then I hope that's how it is, just this constant, "Why am I always at the center of this nonsense?" stuff with increasingly flimsy justifications for starting over at level 1 each time.
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Alternatively make it a war between Rauatai and the Aedyr Empire. I want more aumaua in all things I play.
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I hope Eder narrates the whole game in an old man voice.
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Nasgate posted:I hope Eder narrates the whole game in an old man voice. He should narrate it in his Viktor the blackpowder merchant voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao92XkhPzGM
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If our characters are going to carry over I really hope they include a way to simulate a save file. I don't fancy playing through a hundred hour RPG again just to try out different choices.
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I brought this up a while ago, one reason I don't think you'll be able to import the character directly is that your last possible save point is before you fight Thaos - a Tyranny-style "conquest" thing could do the do but world-building wise the final choice the watcher made isn't likely to be something they can accommodate in a sequel
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Kurtofan posted:tyranny was better than pillars agreed. Basic Chunnel posted:yeah bongwizzard posted:Better at being the worst thing I've ever wasted $40 on. you guys can't handle someone spitting the real. i like both games, though, i just found tyranny to have better writing and a more interesting world. poe was undoubtedly more complete and had better systems but i never felt as involved in the story and found a lot of the writing to be kind of bland.
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Neurosis posted:agreed. Yeah, I liked the mystery and replayabilty of Tyranny's story. I would compliment the aesthetic, but I don't know many Bronze Age fantasy worlds to compare it to. If they make a sequel I would like to see a larger urban environment, maybe whatever the equivalent to Babylon or Persepolis would be.
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There's no obvious hint in the source code, which is a bit disappointing, except for a weird comment that just says "VIII". Can anybody smart venture a guess as to the meaning of 8 in roman numerals?
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With the fall of Woedica and the death of Eothas, there are 9 gods left meddling in mortal affairs. Maybe after PoE2, there will be only 8.
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Tyranny was a great game but it obviously had different design goals than Pillars of Eternity and was developed by a different team anyhow. I always chuckle at how fragile Basic Chunnel is, though.
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