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Rigel posted:edit2: confirmed that Kisenosato's style will be unryu. The YDC meeting apparently lasted only about 10 minutes. The justification they used for promotion (for those who need more justification) is to point at the winning percentage of the 6 basho before promotion. Under that measure, Kisenosato looks better than pretty much every other recent yokozuna. It just occurred to me that I'm going to be watching my first "live" Japanese yokozuna dohyo iri. Takanohana had already retired long before I started watching.
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It is now officially official. The sumo association just completed that ceremony where messengers were sent to inform Kisenosato and his oyakata of the promotion and Kisenosato accepts (in front of a crapton of TV cameras and flash photography, of course which ruins the ritual a little bit). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftkRzMLwxQ4 Rigel fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Jan 25, 2017 |
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Rigel posted:It is now officially official. The sumo association just completed that ceremony where messengers were sent to inform Kisenosato and his oyakata of the promotion and Kisenosato accepts (in front of a crapton of TV cameras and flash photography, of course which ruins the ritual a little bit).
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Revenant Threshold posted:I thought, "Ok, that's a little annoying, but I don't see how a lot of cameras and flashes could be... oh. Oh." The Japanese put the paparazzi to shame both with quantity of cameras/flashes and with respecting boundaries. Looks like a goddamn MMO boss fight when those flashes start going off.
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The flashes are crazy during bouts too, which I don't understand. I know it looks way dark on TV but the whole arena is really well lit, and then the dohyo is about as bright as the surface of the sun. And the photographers are all right there so fast glass should be OK...
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I missed the live stream on niconico because my selfish wife was booked in for a stupid massage which I had to drive her to, but someone on sumoforums had the foresight to record (or steal a recording) of the TV coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGaCrwYPfzc Fluffs the lead in to the final shiko, but pretty good on the whole considering.
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Kisenosato's first dohyo-iri was pretty rough, but he just started learning it yesterday so he'll get better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGaCrwYPfzc
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Man, I started watching sumo around the time commentators were marveling over Akebono being the first foreign yokozuna. And now the storyline is all about the first Japanese yokozuna in years. I suddenly feel old.
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And on a different note, I just found Hokutofuji on twitter. Oh, the sights we have to show you... https://twitter.com/hokutofujidaiki/status/803127114333495297
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Elissimpark posted:And on a different note, I just found Hokutofuji on twitter. Oh, the sights we have to show you... Goddamn, pure gold. If there was anything to ever motivate me to revamp the OP, it would be to put a list of rikishi twitter accounts. Has anyone gathered up a repository of them, or know if there's one floating out there?
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I could list the ones I have on my twitter account - its a mix of rikishi, a bunch of the lower division dudes, a few yobidashi and a gyoji (I think). There's a few guys on Instagram too (Takanoiwa, for one), but I've haven't dug that deeply there yet.
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Apparently Tokitenkuu (Mongolian who did all the leg kicks) just died. He was only 36 years old. I believe he had a kind of lymphoma that was very beatable, but it must have turned into something else. Very sad... same age as me.
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Elissimpark posted:I could list the ones I have on my twitter account - its a mix of rikishi, a bunch of the lower division dudes, a few yobidashi and a gyoji (I think). Girlfriend followed some rikishi on twitter and a makuuchi guy (who will remain nameless) that she hadn't followed, followed her and DM'd her. Slightly surreal. Fryhtaning posted:Apparently Tokitenkuu (Mongolian who did all the leg kicks) just died. He was only 36 years old. I believe he had a kind of lymphoma that was very beatable, but it must have turned into something else. Very sad... same age as me. RIP 
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Fryhtaning posted:Apparently Tokitenkuu (Mongolian who did all the leg kicks) just died. He was only 36 years old. I believe he had a kind of lymphoma that was very beatable, but it must have turned into something else. Very sad... same age as me. gently caress, this really sucks. Tokitenku owned, I'm really going to miss all his rad leg trips.
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Fryhtaning posted:Apparently Tokitenkuu (Mongolian who did all the leg kicks) just died. He was only 36 years old. I believe he had a kind of lymphoma that was very beatable, but it must have turned into something else. Very sad... same age as me. Balls. I was sad he when he went intai, but I thought that at least he was oyakata and could stay in the sumo world and teach some newbie to susaharai or something. Welp. Uncle Jam posted:Girlfriend followed some rikishi on twitter and a makuuchi guy (who will remain nameless) that she hadn't followed, followed her and DM'd her. Weird. I can't say I've had that happen.
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Uncle Jam posted:a makuuchi guy (who will remain nameless) that she hadn't followed, followed her and DM'd her. What. Why. Spill it. Not like we're working for gossip rags or anything.
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I'm taking a trip to Japan, and just got tickets for Day 15 of the March tournament! I'm really excited for this! I used to watch sumo on ESPN when I was younger and always found it fascinating, but haven't kept up with it. I need to catch up... Any tips/must-knows for this tournament and for a first-timer in general?
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Mobius posted:I'm taking a trip to Japan, and just got tickets for Day 15 of the March tournament! I'm really excited for this! I used to watch sumo on ESPN when I was younger and always found it fascinating, but haven't kept up with it. I need to catch up... I did the same thing and had a blast. In case you didn't know, the matches start with the lowest levels and work their way up to the top division. So, you can make it an all day thing, if you want. Day 15 is the last day so it should be particularly rocking if the competition to win the tournament is close.
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I'm also traveling to Japan in March and just got tickets for Day 14. Been watching sumo for ~2 years, thanks to this thread--I'm super excited.
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Mobius posted:I'm taking a trip to Japan, and just got tickets for Day 15 of the March tournament! I'm really excited for this! I used to watch sumo on ESPN when I was younger and always found it fascinating, but haven't kept up with it. I need to catch up... http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx is a good resource for stats of all kinds and will be updated throughout the tournament so you can see what the various wrestler's scores are going into the final day. Most people in this thread follow the sport through highlights posted on youtube, which are embedded here as they are uploaded. Some names to listen out for: Kisenosato - just got promoted to the top rank "Yokozuna", the first time a Japanese person has been at the top rank in 19 years. Hakuho - Mongolian Yokozuna, in terms of his record the greatest of all time, certainly the best wrestler out there most of the time. He's recently slipped a bit and has only been extremely dominant rather than totally crushing everyone. The other two Yokozuna are also Mongolians: Kakuryu and Harumafuji, both of whom left the last tournament injured and may be close to retiring if they can't get fit soon. At the next rank down "Ozeki" we have Goeido and Terunofuji, both of whom have struggled recently to get winning records consistently. If Terunofuji does not manage 8 or more wins this tournament he will be relegated from Ozeki rank, like Kotoshogiku has just been for having a losing record twice in a row at Ozeki. Kotoshogiku can be promoted back to Ozeki if he manages 10 or more wins this tournament, otherwise he will have a harder job being promoted back. Outside of the big names there are the up-and-comers Shodai and Mitakeumi. Look out for Hokutofuji as well. Ishiura is noticeably smaller than the other guys but is very wily and should be fun to watch. Ura has just been promoted from the next division down and looks very impressive (and wears a distinctive pink loincloth). He may have chosen a new ring name by the time the banzuke is announced. Yoshikaze and Sokokurai are often involved in exciting bouts, Endo is the overwhelming crowd favourite for reasons known only to the Japanese.
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Part of it is that he was expected to be the next great talent, but tore his ACL a while back, and elected to tough it out rather than get reconstructive surgery. Apparently this decision got him a lot of fans, even though he probably won't ever contend for the higher ranks while wrestling with one functional knee.
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Try to print out the day's torikumi in Japanese and English -on the same page- lined up correctly. You'll get a paper one in English and Japanese but it will be separate. The only score board there is this thing:  So it is worth while to have a cheat sheet to understand who is coming up next. The current match will have both red lights lit up above and below.
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Uncle Jam posted:The current match will have both red lights lit up above and below. And then the loser's light goes out - two men enter, one man leaves, Japanese style  Mobius posted:I'm taking a trip to Japan, and just got tickets for Day 15 of the March tournament! I'm really excited for this! I used to watch sumo on ESPN when I was younger and always found it fascinating, but haven't kept up with it. I need to catch up... Go for the full day, watch the size of the rikishi slowly increase by the hour, and pace yourself with the sake - things go juuust a tad slower in the live event than they do in the videos. Also, I don't know if the rules have changed, but you can bring in your own food/drink so you don't have to live off of concession food all day.
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I've never done it, but supposedly you can rent a radio that lets you listen to the English NHK commentators in the stadium.
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Fryhtaning posted:And then the loser's light goes out - two men enter, one man leaves, Japanese style I'm debating whether I want to do a full day... I love the idea, but I'll be going on my own, so I'm worried it might get a little dull. Does anyone know if they allow readmission if I want to leave and come back? What time do the top divisions usually start? hot date tonight! posted:I've never done it, but supposedly you can rent a radio that lets you listen to the English NHK commentators in the stadium. Oh nice, that sounds like a must. Tsaedje posted:... This is great, thanks! I've been watching YouTube highlights, I definitely like Ishiura. Dude's small, but jacked. It's amazing seeing him push around guys 100 lbs heavier. Mobius fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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I don't know if the rules are any different in Osaka but in Tokyo there's a sign when you enter the Kokugikan that says you can't bring food and drink from the outside in. Of course this is completely ignored by many as last time I and my friends went in the gates, got our banzuke sheet for the day, and got our tickets ripped all with beers in our hands. They don't check bags so if you're worried at all just put stuff in your bag.
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Juryo starts maybe around 230-300pm? Then makuuchi starts at 4 and goes to 6. I think all day would be pretty tough to do, between the seating and the temperature. Between 2pm and 330 the makuuchi guys start showing up and when I went to Osaka they used the same entrance as spectators, so its pretty cool to take in the excitement there, and the entrance is generally where most people are at that time. There are also a bunch of shop stalls selling things like tegata there. If you enter the arena later on past 230 to take your seat there will be volunteer students acting as ushers so if they come up to you just show your ticket and they'll take you there. When I went there was no translation for signs pointing to the N/S/W/E side of the arena.
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Uncle Jam posted:Juryo starts maybe around 230-300pm? Then makuuchi starts at 4 and goes to 6. Does it get that hot in there? My only basho was Fukuoka in November, so that's about as mild as weather comes out there. I would think March would be fairly nice weather though, maybe rainy. What was nice about going early was having plenty of time to walk around and see everything else going on in the building. Of course it's fun to watch some makushita and jonokuchi bouts too. The sign translations are a good point. It's a good idea to learn as much basic Japanese as possible anyway, but it'd be good to take a cheat sheet with you for basic terminology as well as the names of the rikishi. From a distance you may have a hard time telling who is who, and the English names will likely only be on the programs they hand out. I remember we actually got a gaijin-guide to sumo as we walked in - thanks racial profiling! e.g. 北 north 南 south 西 west 東 east 白鳳 Hakuho 稀勢の里 Kisenosato
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Be aware that "east" and "west" in regards to the dohyo are not the same as the cardinal points. Rikishi from the "east" will be on the left when you face "north", not the right. (on TV, it doesn't matter, cos everyone's names get flashed on the screen, but when you're watching with the torikumi in your hands, it can be confusing.) Also, make sure you take the most important photo: 
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"Kintamayama" posted:Another Yokozuna Kisenosato story: Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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Dr.Radical posted:Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit Please be a true story, because lmao.
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Kintamayama likes to joke but this seems oddly specific. That plus the picture makes me choose to believe it. I have never been silent about my Kise hate but I'll break character for a moment and say it is a great story and basically all rikishi are decent (until they become oyakata and start beating people with metal baseball bats). Even Asashoryu comes out of the story seeming like a softy.
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