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eames posted:videocardz has a bit more info on vega and a rumored polaris refresh/rebrand in May but nothing surprising. Dunno how I missed this the first time through. Let's just hope this means there's a x90 part this time around.
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Fauxtool posted:nobody with a pc has ever said that, make sure hes not a mole-person or something trying to pass as human. I mean, he might be just trying to dodge the $200 drop in value that's coming as soon as a 1080 Ti launches. But yeah, it's suspicious, I would want to see the card running before I did the deal. Really that goes for any $500+ component. Could also be stolen but there's not really a good way to tell other than to put them on the spot and ask him to pull the order confirmation from his email. And you may not care. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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fishing with the fam posted:I recently upgraded to a GTX 1070 and I'm running into some annoyingly inconsistent framerate issues. I installed the graphics card, installed the drivers, and did not notice any real performance difference. After completely wiping out all graphics drivers from my computer and reinstalling, that seemed to solve the issue. I was getting 60 FPS on Rise of the Tomb Raider on ultra, 90+ FPS on Overwatch on ultra, etc. Have you tried setting the games in question to "Prefer Maximum Performance" in the Nvidia control panel? Inappropriate power throttling could conceivably cause issues like what you describe. I was getting issues with my GTX 660 with some of the Nvidia drivers last year, and had to tell it to prefer maximum performance all the time, not just for specific games. Haven't had any issues with my 1060 like that, though - it's been running like a champ with recent drivers.
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Paul MaudDib posted:I mean, he might be just trying to dodge the $200 drop in value that's coming as soon as a 1080 Ti launches. But yeah, it's suspicious, I would want to see the card running before I did the deal. Really that goes for any $500+ component. Yeah for my used 1080 I made him show me a video of it running, him panning to his screen with device manager up and then pull up a window of the Craigslist ad.
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Paul MaudDib posted:I mean, he might be just trying to dodge the $200 drop in value that's coming as soon as a 1080 Ti launches. But yeah, it's suspicious, I would want to see the card running before I did the deal. Really that goes for any $500+ component. He's not down for $300 + the 970 so don't have to worry about it I guess.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Dunno how I missed this the first time through. Let's just hope this means there's a x90 part this time around. How do you feel about Hawaii? 
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Echoing what others said about driver reinstalls: I recently had a very similar problem where upon first boot the graphics card would be in limp - along safe mode, but if I rebooted the machine or turned it off and on right away then it would run perfectly. I put it down to the card being old initially but after DDU and driver reinstall it worked normally again.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:43
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I have a post in HOTS with the exact same issue, my 970 will just sporadically be stuck in low power... strange it all turning up at the same time!
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Captain Hair posted:Echoing what others said about driver reinstalls: I recently had a very similar problem where upon first boot the graphics card would be in limp - along safe mode, but if I rebooted the machine or turned it off and on right away then it would run perfectly. Was this under Windows 8 or 10? Sounds like a driver bug concerning the Windows Fast Boot feature. If it's enabled (it is by default), then the only reliable way to cold boot is by performing a Windows restart or maybe interrupting the power on sequence. "Shutdown" is now a new form of hibernation that keeps kernel mode drivers loaded. Then when you turn the PC on, it "boots" more quickly. Some GPU drivers did not like being resumed instead of reinitialised and most people are unaware that Microsoft just fundamentally changed what Shutdown does. You can disable fast boot in control panel power options. Choose what power button does > change settings that are currently unavailable. Disable fast startup.
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Captain Hair posted:Echoing what others said about driver reinstalls: I recently had a very similar problem where upon first boot the graphics card would be in limp - along safe mode, but if I rebooted the machine or turned it off and on right away then it would run perfectly. Captain Yossarian posted:I have a post in HOTS with the exact same issue, my 970 will just sporadically be stuck in low power... strange it all turning up at the same time! Had this exact same issue on my 1080. DDU also solved it. This was on the previous set of drivers which I think were just completely broken. Heard a lot of people who updated to them for, For Honor, ended up losing tons of performance.
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I had this happen for the first time on my 980Ti after a failed OC on it in Elite. Elite crashed but the card kept running and the driver didn't even crash. Stuck the core at ~500Mhz which was kind interesting. It was still able to hold near 45FPS in VR in Elite. Goes to show how powerful it still is even at such a slow clock. Reboot fixed this and let the card run normally again. Once I got it dialed in that it didn't turbo Above 1500mhz though, I was able to hold 90FPS in VR a lot more than it did at only 1404mhz. 
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FWIW RX480s are on sale with significant price cuts, so perhaps we'll really see a Polaris refresh soon. The "MSI RX480 8GB Armor OC" is on sale for $172 after promo & rebate, reference cards for $180. If only AMD would support steam streaming hardware acceleration, I paid 290€ for my 1060-6GB only two weeks ago. 
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eames posted:FWIW RX480s are on sale with significant price cuts, so perhaps we'll really see a Polaris refresh soon. 8GB XFX Reference with a free copy of Doom for $179.99 after rebate: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150770
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Stanley Pain posted:Had this exact same issue on my 1080. DDU also solved it. This was on the previous set of drivers which I think were just completely broken. Heard a lot of people who updated to them for, For Honor, ended up losing tons of performance. I ddu'd, wiped everything, we'll see if it happens again! It almost has to be driver related, I don't know what else would be causing the odd power state issues in my case
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I recently got given a computer from 2011-2012 It's a i7-930 2.8ghz 24gb ram 2X Radeon HD6950 2gb (crossfire) Would I see much of a benefit (besides reduction in my power bill) with replacing those old Radeons with a single 1050ti 4gb? Or is the old i7 going to be to much of a bottleneck?
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At best you might see better performance in games that don't work well with AMD and crossfire, but a single 6950 and a 1050 ti have nearly the same performance. Stuff that works well with crossfire will perform nearly twice as well on the 6950s. The 930 is hardly a bottleneck, especially if you spend 30 dollars and get a 212 for it and overclock it, overclocks around 3.9Ghz aren't unusual. It'd only start bottlenecking you while overclocked if you were getting into the 1070/1080/980 TI range. (barring unusually CPU heavy games)
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Feb 25, 2017 00:50
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Those are Steam keys right? If so that's a super good deal.
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I'm looking to build a new gaming computer, with the target being to keep modern AAA titles like The Witcher 3 and Warhammer: Total War above 30 FPS under heavy load on a single 1080p monitor. I was originally going to go for a GTX 1070 even though it's a bit overkill because the loss in performance to go to a 1060 just didn't seem worth it to save $100 when we're still looking at a price tag comfortably north of $1k, but the clearance sales on the RX 480s look tempting. A quick perusal of benchmark sites suggests they're pretty comparable to a GTX 1060, and $200 savings on a build merits a bit more consideration. Will the RX 480 live up to my needs, and does this particular deal come from a reputable manufacturer? Thanks for the time.
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Voyager I posted:I'm looking to build a new gaming computer, with the target being to keep modern AAA titles like The Witcher 3 and Warhammer: Total War above 30 FPS under heavy load on a single 1080p monitor. I was originally going to go for a GTX 1070 even though it's a bit overkill because the loss in performance to go to a 1060 just didn't seem worth it to save $100 when we're still looking at a price tag comfortably north of $1k, but the clearance sales on the RX 480s look tempting. A quick perusal of benchmark sites suggests they're pretty comparable to a GTX 1060, and $200 savings on a build merits a bit more consideration. Will the RX 480 live up to my needs, and does this particular deal come from a reputable manufacturer? Yeah they are great value, but that's a loud AMD reference hairdryer. Please avoid ones that look like that (enclosed plastic boxes)  Here are some simple open coolers, assuming you're looking for plug in & forget and not fiddling with overlclocks. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137048 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131704 I would buy this one because I like backplates for stiffness sauer kraut fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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craig588 posted:RMA. Overclocking automatically based on temperature and power use is normal, the 1860 is more like a minimum. in the hottest highest power draw situations. Thanks, turns out it was just lacking a BIOS update which EVGA conveniently links to on the page where I'd submit a ticket for an RMA. Apparently they can't be bothered to link to that in their actual downloads page where someone would go to look for this poo poo. No underclocking and no crashes so far today after a number of hours in both games where it was having trouble before. I run a server blower on my CPU because I don't want to go through the bother of cleaning and switching it out. It's loud as gently caress, don't do this.
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Voyager I posted:I'm looking to build a new gaming computer, with the target being to keep modern AAA titles like The Witcher 3 and Warhammer: Total War above 30 FPS under heavy load on a single 1080p monitor. I was originally going to go for a GTX 1070 even though it's a bit overkill because the loss in performance to go to a 1060 just didn't seem worth it to save $100 when we're still looking at a price tag comfortably north of $1k, but the clearance sales on the RX 480s look tempting. A quick perusal of benchmark sites suggests they're pretty comparable to a GTX 1060, and $200 savings on a build merits a bit more consideration. Will the RX 480 live up to my needs, and does this particular deal come from a reputable manufacturer? Wait a week. The RX 480 deals have been that good before and will go nowhere but down, and NVIDIA is announcing the 1080 Ti next week. I think price adjustments to the rest of the line are highly likely. Wouldn't be surprised to see $25-50 knocked off the 1060, $50-75 knocked off the 1070, and $100-125 knocked off the 1080, with the 1080 Ti slotting in around $700. That's deeper than some people think, but the flip side of NVIDIA waiting so long to release the 1080 Ti is that the earlier cards have utterly saturated the market at their current prices to a much greater extent than in previous generations. The 1060's price has held steady but the RX 480 is almost $100 under it at this point, which literally more than a 1/3 discount (it's a fantastic deal right now). The 1070 is the real price/performance sweet-spot (lots of demand) and has no real competition so prices have held steadier, but the 1080 has had really deep discounts too. It's dropped more than $150 since launch, you can now get decent cards for $550 or so and sometimes as low as $500. So I don't really see the 1080 Ti being viable if NVIDIA is still pretending that the 1080 is going for its $700 launch price. Dropping the MSRPs of the other cards in the series is just acknowledging reality. Unless it's like, the full GP102 or something. AMD is also going to be announcing Vega at the same time, so double whammy. Wait a week and see what happens. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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Alright, with this and Ryzen on the horizon I guess it's just time to wait until March 3rd before buying a computer.
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I just noticed that my GTX 1080 is running at 140-170 MHz while doing 144 Hz at the desktop, so I guess they re-re-re-re-fixed that bug. Cool, I no longer need to run in poo poo mode to keep it clocked down.
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Obsurveyor posted:
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I'm having an issue with my Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X (hooray!). Recently when I try to turn my desktop on, it's been throwing an error. My motherboard has fancy troubleshooting lights, and the VGA one is the one that goes on. Usually just hitting the restart button is enough to get it to boot, but once it just wasn't working. I tried reseating it, and that didn't work, but hitting the restart a few more times while switching from legacy to UEFI bios got it to reboot. Today I had the same thing happen so I'm starting to doubt it was the switch in bios that fixed it. I still want to see if a firmware update helps, but I can't find any source on them for my card. Honestly I don't care, I just want to make it till Vega drops since I've got a Freesync ultrawide and I want *sync and I don't want to pay for GSync. Does anyone know if there's available firmware updates for that card? Also, does this sound like it might be a problem with power? I'm probably running a bit tight to the limits of my UPS and I just overclocked my CPU, so I'm wondering if shifting things off battery backup might be the answer. I moved my other monitors off the battery and next time I restart I won't start the monitor on battery backup until the desktop boots or fails to. Should I buy another card to have one on hand if I don't want to be stuck running off integrated graphics for a while (either getting it back or getting vega)? I don't really have a problem doing that, I have a friend who could use it just fine once I'm done with it.
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You could just get a 480 for now and re-sell it when vegas comes out. Youd probably be out some money, but it would keep you going
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B-Mac posted:What error are you getting specifically? All I'm getting is the red error LED by the number 1 PCIE slot that the manual says is the VGA light. I've got no other real info on it. Watermelon Daiquiri posted:You could just get a 480 for now and re-sell it when vegas comes out. Youd probably be out some money, but it would keep you going That's basically what I'm thinking of if it doesn't settle down. It's a shame but it'd mean I have a card that works for a while.
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I bought a defective RX480 8GB model but while it was running I was achieving 40-50fps in Doom 4k on Ultra. I sent it back and got a GeForce GTX1060.. got around 20-25fps in Doom at 4k. This may be a bandwidth thing so the 1060 is 192bit vs 256bit for the 480. The GTX1060 got sent back, it was performing so badly I just bought another 480, overclocked it a bit and settled on 40-60fps in Doom, Ultra, 4K. Maybe DX 11 or whatever games are different but at 4k the RX480 destroys the 1060.
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redeyes posted:I bought a defective RX480 8GB model but while it was running I was achieving 40-50fps in Doom 4k on Ultra. I sent it back and got a GeForce GTX1060.. got around 20-25fps in Doom at 4k. This may be a bandwidth thing so the 1060 is 192bit vs 256bit for the 480. That is to be expected, Doom in general runs really well on AMD cards because AMD cards do so well in Vulkan and AMD cards scale better as resolution increases.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:That is to be expected, Doom in general runs really well on AMD cards because AMD cards do so well in Vulkan and AMD cards scale better as resolution increases. Doom also uses non-standard Vulkan extensions to dig into GCN-specific optimizations, it's as best-case-scenario for AMD as best-case-scenarios get.
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xthetenth posted:I'm having an issue with my Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X (hooray!). Recently when I try to turn my desktop on, it's been throwing an error. My motherboard has fancy troubleshooting lights, and the VGA one is the one that goes on. Usually just hitting the restart button is enough to get it to boot, but once it just wasn't working. I tried reseating it, and that didn't work, but hitting the restart a few more times while switching from legacy to UEFI bios got it to reboot. Today I had the same thing happen so I'm starting to doubt it was the switch in bios that fixed it. I still want to see if a firmware update helps, but I can't find any source on them for my card. Honestly I don't care, I just want to make it till Vega drops since I've got a Freesync ultrawide and I want *sync and I don't want to pay for GSync.
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td4guy posted:No, it's not a problem with your power or your UPS. Your battery backup has nothing to do with this. It could well be a failing PSU (not UPS though) but it seems likely to be the GPU to me . The easiest diagnosis would involve another card or igpu
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redeyes posted:I bought a defective RX480 8GB model but while it was running I was achieving 40-50fps in Doom 4k on Ultra. I sent it back and got a GeForce GTX1060.. got around 20-25fps in Doom at 4k. This may be a bandwidth thing so the 1060 is 192bit vs 256bit for the 480. It also helps that Doom was basically hand coded to run better on AMD cards.
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1gnoirents posted:It could well be a failing PSU (not UPS though) but it seems likely to be the GPU to me . The easiest diagnosis would involve another card or igpu Or undoing the recent overclock, which might not actually be stable. It could be showing up as video problem simply because that's the first (major) thing turned on by the system on boot.
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BurritoJustice posted:It also helps that Doom was basically hand coded to run better on AMD cards. Isn't it more because of async compute and the lack of support of the feature on Nvidia hardware?
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SwissCM posted:Isn't it more because of async compute and the lack of support of the feature on Nvidia hardware? It implements GCN shader extensions, which are basically low-level architecture specific optimisations for GCN hardware. The difference in Async performance is negligible by comparison (and can be easily tested as only TSAA uses Async in any form). This makes it the most optimised situation for AMD currently testable.
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1gnoirents posted:It could well be a failing PSU (not UPS though) but it seems likely to be the GPU to me . The easiest diagnosis would involve another card or igpu I have an 8800 GT on hand, I don't have anything newer. I think all I'd need to do to test is see if it boots, so I think that should be sufficient to the task of seeing if it's the PCIe slot, and test that and the IGPU to see if either/both of them have problems to narrow things down, does that sound right to the rest of you?
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BurritoJustice posted:It implements GCN shader extensions, which are basically low-level architecture specific optimisations for GCN hardware. The difference in Async performance is negligible by comparison (and can be easily tested as only TSAA uses Async in any form). Does the GCN extensions make the game more Optimized? Or does it run the same without it. Because if the argument that DOOM uses GCN shader extensions so it makes it unfair for nVidia then that's stupid
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