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bewbies posted:Any thoughts on Jack Bot prices? This table looks to be in good condition and it is one I really enjoy but this price seems high to me. I've seen two really nice ones for 2500 recently. Wanted to buy one but I'd need to sell games to fund it.
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Design looks fine to me. Probably better to play it safe with such a great theme. Those ramps do look long so I'm curious to see how it flows. Art wise, there probably were a lot of restrictions with the license. No chance they were going to get handdrawn art (although the Data East game had it I believe). It's not bad, but it also doesn't feel very Star Wars-esque. I guess my gripe with Stern is they seem obsessed with getting every single color on their playfields. Every table doesn't have to be a rainbow, just make it fit the theme. Interested to see what the monitor does because it lacks cool toys.
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May 31, 2017 23:54
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Clouseau posted:Pinside is trash and full of trash people. Pinball culture is also just full of lovely horned-up men and gamer douchebags who don't want a game they can't jerk off to.
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Jun 1, 2017 04:07
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Nearly everyone I see who posts a game for sale on facebook has a Trump profile photo.
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DizzyBum posted:I also have a soft spot for High Speed 2. It's a pretty dumb table overall (nonstop loop shots) but it's fun. Clouseau posted:This is also the third Star Wars pin based on the original trilogy. Apart from the Sega and DE games there were two more from small-time producers in the 80s, 1987 "Star Wars" by spanish Sonic Pinball and 1980 "The Empire Strikes Back" by australian Hankin & Co.
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Jun 1, 2017 12:04
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The Data East Star Wars table looks really good with a LED lighting kit
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Mileage varies on the hand drawn art on the DE Star Wars, but I always dug it, it looks kinda weird which is reflective of where Star Wars kinda was as a franchise at the time. As Niwrad said, Disney probably is super controlling of the art style so I'm sure it'd be difficult to get anything that was less generic. It looks like Dwight Sullivan is on code for this and his games have generally arrived mostly complete (GoT, Ghostbusters) and with reasonably interesting rules.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Pinball culture is also just full of lovely horned-up men and gamer douchebags who don't want a game they can't jerk off to. This would certainly explain how Whoa Nellie got the green light.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:
That's a Stern table alright! Snacksmaniac posted:Nearly everyone I see who posts a game for sale on facebook has a Trump profile photo. I guess it's hypocritical of me because I'd love several tables if I could afford them, but collecting pinball machines is a very dudebro thing to do. Just stuff your mancave full of AC/DC and Mustang pinball machines and posters of bare-assed women stradling motorcycles and you're good to go. It's the equivalent of buying gigantic 4x4 pickups with tiny beds you can't even haul anything in, that sit so high up you'd need a hydraulic lift to get anything in there anyways.
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Clouseau posted:Mileage varies on the hand drawn art on the DE Star Wars, but I always dug it, it looks kinda weird which is reflective of where Star Wars kinda was as a franchise at the time. As Niwrad said, Disney probably is super controlling of the art style so I'm sure it'd be difficult to get anything that was less generic. I like the DE Star Wars artwork. Although it does have a late 80's/early 90's vibe to it. After looking at some more high-res photos of the new table, I kind of dig the artwork. The use of the light sabers running into the ramps is cool. The inserts seem a bit large but perhaps the table will play darker and need that to light it up. My only gripe is the Pro looks much less fun than the Premium version.
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I'm into scale modeling and garage kits, and there's a ton of middle aged divorcee creepers in that hobby as well. If someone posts up a tasteful nude statue, or even just a WWII bomber with some racy nose-art, you get this avalanche of creepy old dudes with a well-curated collection of links to the most horn-doggenist smileys and emojis with eyes popping out and tongues wagging, while they post about how "they'd love to wrap my tongue around that luscious dame, A-OOOOGA!!!" There's even one guy in particular, he's rich or something, who collects and paints dino models. When he's done with one though, he hires an escort to hold the model while wearing skimpy clothing, which he then takes pics of. Oh, and most of the pics are taken at his house, which is so poorly kept it looks like it's practically abandoned. These are the same guys who would post in another thread about how "I just don't understand why there aren't more women in this hobby?" Hmmm, maybe it's because they ran screaming to the hills because of you guys. Bloody Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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It's something I first saw in record collecting, where all the guys in the record store would wait until the one woman left the shop to ogle the uncensored Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking poster. That kind of person is a perfect storm of irritability, selfishness, and sanctimony, and pinball is full of them. DizzyBum posted:This would certainly explain how Whoa Nellie got the green light. For a while Stern's facebook page was blocking anyone who criticized Woah Nellie, and at one point Gary Stern posted a picture of himself holding melons with the subtitle "It's a game about fruit!"
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Magic Hate Ball posted:
So... Looks like it'll be as boring and bad as the other Star Wars tables? With worse art too... Ugh. At least the DE one looks nice. super nailgun fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Magic Hate Ball posted:For a while Stern's facebook page was blocking anyone who criticized Woah Nellie, and at one point Gary Stern posted a picture of himself holding melons with the subtitle "It's a game about fruit!"  Now I feel guilty for even trying the game a year ago.edit: VVVVV 
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See also the "adult" alt translite someone made for the Flintstones pinball, because they hate Rosie o'Donnell with a massive group passion:
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I didn't see the legs for one blissful second and thought the rear window of the car was a heart between Barney and Fred. For that brief moment, I was happy. ...why would someone make this?!?!?
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Discendo Vox posted:I didn't see the legs for one blissful second and thought the rear window of the car was a heart between Barney and Fred. For that brief moment, I was happy. 
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 It's pinball It's pushing buttons to flick a little metal ball up a piece of wood and watch it do neat stuff and make bright lights and loud noises Why
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They feel that they're losing some power, and they're frustrated and angry at little things because that's all they can control.
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gently caress me, did I just walk into another hobby that will be hostile towards me because I have breasts? E: *skims Pinside forums for GoT mod info* Geezus, guys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CVBIr7zyuQ "My favorite part of the video was the blonde taking off her jacket and adjusting her top." "It was just a tad hard to look at the gameplay footage with the blonde in the video. I am pretty sure I am the only one that had a problem with this though." "Ha I'm Taking notes on Fattrains Skills with the Ladies! Look at how smooth he is! Go Train!" "I spent more time watching watching Fattrain put the moves on "the lady in red" than I did watching GOT! Go Train!!" I gave up after the first page. At least the people I've met locally have been cool so far, but this doesn't really make me want to go to pinball events or talk to dealers. Dirt Road Junglist fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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There's also a full conversion to cartoon style for that flintstones tables.
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Discendo Vox posted:I didn't see the legs for one blissful second and thought the rear window of the car was a heart between Barney and Fred. For that brief moment, I was happy. I had that moment. Then I noticed the legs and got weirded out. Then I noticed that it's a wife swap situation and got even more weirded out. 
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canyoneer posted:I had that moment.  brb, need to drink that image out of my mind.
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at least dino looks suitably uncomfortable from the situation
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Awesome! posted:at least dino looks suitably uncomfortable from the situation So do the children watching from the background.
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super nailgun posted:So... Looks like it'll be as boring and bad as the other Star Wars tables? With worse art too... Ugh. At least the DE one looks nice. Doesn't look any different than AC/DC which is fun as hell. The Premium has that hyperspace ramp which looks really cool.
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Probably has more to do with my location but almost everyone here that's into pinball is more of the hipster type than what's being posted here.
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DirtRoadJunglist posted:I gave up after the first page. At least the people I've met locally have been cool so far, but this doesn't really make me want to go to pinball events or talk to dealers. My understanding is that the horrible misogyny is 99% the fairly wealthy basement creepazoids on forums who only play machines in their mancaves, and that the level of misogyny in public, organized pinball is actually a bit below the usual background noise level of sexism due to careful policing by cool people organizers.
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Yeah, most public pinball stuff is fine, though the cons/shows tend to be sausage fests and there's definitely an overall dudebro atmosphere.Niwrad posted:Doesn't look any different than AC/DC which is fun as hell. The Premium has that hyperspace ramp which looks really cool. I don't enjoy AC/DC at all, but I also find Steve Ritchie games to be really dull in general. They feel like complicated pitch-and-bats.
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The few times I've been to CP Pinball there's been women around, but it's usually like 3:1 or 2:1 and nobody's really broing down. But that's probably because it's locals or people from nearby towns on a night out or whatever, and not "enthusiasts" who come from all over to talk shop about their limited edition Sterns.
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Discendo Vox posted:My understanding is that the horrible misogyny is 99% the fairly wealthy basement creepazoids on forums who only play machines in their mancaves, and that the level of misogyny in public, organized pinball is actually a bit below the usual background noise level of sexism due to careful policing by cool people organizers. Pleasant news, then! So far, everyone I've met while playing has been cool, but I live in a hipster city with multiple "barcades," so that's not useful to calibrate against. The retro gaming expos here have been chill so far. Will see if the overall hostility of Portland starts poisoning that, but in the meantime, gently caress the haters, I'll be at the bar working on my high scores.
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DirtRoadJunglist posted:Pleasant news, then! So far, everyone I've met while playing has been cool, but I live in a hipster city with multiple "barcades," so that's not useful to calibrate against. The retro gaming expos here have been chill so far. Will see if the overall hostility of Portland starts poisoning that, but in the meantime, gently caress the haters, I'll be at the bar working on my high scores. Oh Portland? You'll be fine then so long as you're white.
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Most of the public pinball stuff I've seen has been pretty chill. The worst you can really say is it skews a bit nerdy, but not as nerdy as a con or some cosplay get together bullshit. The five minutes I spent at the Northwest Pinball Expo seemed pretty family friendly, no one would have any problems there.
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Everyone I've come across in real life has been really nice. It's either young people who like to socialize and play or older family people who want to have something they can bond with their kids over. Heck the guy who I sold my Gofers to asked about vulgar language in the game because he had some young kids. The creeps are mostly online. I don't think it's pinball specific either. Most hobbies I've come across have the same creep dynamic by the guys who get too obsessed with it.
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For those who have played Batman 66, what does the TV screen do on the table? Does it interact with what's going on in the game or just play clips from the show on a loop?
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Niwrad posted:For those who have played Batman 66, what does the TV screen do on the table? Does it interact with what's going on in the game or just play clips from the show on a loop? I think it's being implemented over time. There are some things that make things happen, others don't. You know, just like the entire rest of the game. Some things work, some don't.
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Niwrad posted:The creeps are mostly online. I don't think it's pinball specific either. Most hobbies I've come across have the same creep dynamic by the guys who get too obsessed with it. Pretty much, every hobby has its lovely morlocks, it's important not to focus on them overmuch.
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Pinside used to be great years ago but they've just let it get overrun by guys spamming garbage constantly. The Star Wars thread has over 1,000 posts in it and I maybe saw 5 in the span of 10 pages that actually discussed the game.
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My favourite was the people with the vendetta against Jersey Jack. I mean warranted or not, it was bizarre.
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