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purple death ray posted:Didn't Plastic Man survive being blown into constituent molecules and scattered across the ocean floor for decades one time? It was like 3000 years or something silly.
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purple death ray posted:Didn't Plastic Man survive being blown into constituent molecules and scattered across the ocean floor for decades one time? Again, Joe Kelly's run. e: just because I came across it right now: 
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Dark Knight Strikes Again is mostly just a really weird book(although I have a soft spot for it since I first read it before I did Dark Knight Returns), but one thing it does well is give nice little moments to the heroes in it that aren't the Trinity, Plastic Man in particular gets some great moments
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Jun 15, 2017 21:28
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Ashcans posted:Wouldn't that apply to Superman, too? He's not actually superpowered, he's just a regular Kryptonian, it's just that all Kryptonians are awesome when on Earth, right? This is the problem with "everyone gets depowered" plotlines. It doesn't make sense in a world where everyone's powers and origins are so different that it's hard to even define what counts as a power.
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Jun 16, 2017 04:37
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In the DCU, most earth born metahumans owe their powers to the "Meta-gene." A clumsy explanation for why humans develop powers.
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Rhyno posted:In the DCU, most earth born metahumans owe their powers to the "Meta-gene." A clumsy explanation for why humans develop powers. Yeah, that was always one of those "let's explain something that didn't need explaining" things. In Marvel terms it would explain why Peter Parker got spider powers but most people would only get something between an annoying rash and cancer if they were bit by a radioactive spider. But it turns out most readers don't give a poo poo about that kinda thing.
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Jun 16, 2017 05:06
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Well, they can't just say "mutant." E: I was actually thinking about the meta-gene recently because the latest Doom Patrol references Invasion!
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hup posted:Well, they can't just say "mutant." But it's not even like being a mutant where you get your first wet dream and lasers shoot out of your eyes at the same time. You still need to be near an exploding laboratory or stumble into a voodoo ritual for it to activate or whatever. It makes things more complicated without explaining anything anyone cared about.
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Skwirl posted:But it's not even like being a mutant where you get your first wet dream and lasers shoot out of your eyes at the same time. You still need to be near an exploding laboratory or stumble into a voodoo ritual for it to activate or whatever. It makes things more complicated without explaining anything anyone cared about. It explains why the government doesn't just mass produce super-heros by irradiating soldiers. Most people would just die if you dunk them in a pool of toxic waste.
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Jun 16, 2017 07:10
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Metagene is a fine concept. "It doesn't need to be explained" doesn't really work when there are otherwise fairly easy replicatable origins and it isn't like it overly complicates things, it just clarifies that origins don't work for everyone and thus you don't have to explain why Superman doesn't start drinking Gingold Extract to become Super-ElongatedMan or whatever.
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Superman with white lantern ring and Dr. Fate's helmet vs cave-Batman with stick.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:35
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Lurdiak posted:Superman with white lantern ring and Dr. Fate's helmet vs cave-Batman with stick. Saitama.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:40
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How much prep time does cave-Batman have?
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Infinitum posted:How much prep time does cave-Batman have?
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And then the whole meta-gene thing gets double funny when that's basically 100% the core behind the Earth X series over at Marvel as well...Every human has a meta-gene that when exposed to the right stimuli (super serum, adolescence, radiation, terrigen mists, etc) they develop their own powers. Unlike in DC, they really mean EVERY human.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:20
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If Superman lost his powers wouldn't he sort of... become Batman? Train really hard, get some technology together and go beat the crap out of people?
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Dick Trauma posted:If Superman lost his powers wouldn't he sort of... become Batman? Train really hard, get some technology together and go beat the crap out of people? That's what J'onn does in Act Of God, I believe.
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Dick Trauma posted:If Superman lost his powers wouldn't he sort of... become Batman? Train really hard, get some technology together and go beat the crap out of people? Heck that's basically the point of the Nightwing & Flamebird stories back in the Silver Age
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drrockso20 posted:Heck that's basically the point of the Nightwing & Flamebird stories back in the Silver Age Holy poo poo I completely forgot about that until I saw those names and went and looked up some panels online. Back in the 1970s the local bookstore would often sell bags of comic books, many stripped of their cover. My brother and I would gorge on them now and then and pile up loads of 1960s stuff for cheap.
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Gaz-L posted:That's what J'onn does in Act Of God, I believe. J'onn, Aquaman, and two or three other people all train with Batman and develop the stupidest goddamn vigilante hero gimmicks. I wish I had the page the post of them all introducing themselves, it's so bad. vvvvvv That's the one, good lord. Perry Normal fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Perry Normal posted:J'onn, Aquaman, and two or three other people all train with Batman and develop the stupidest goddamn vigilante hero gimmicks. I wish I had the page the post of them all introducing themselves, it's so bad. Oh, you mean this one?  Formerly Aquaman, King of Atlantis and Lord of the Seas...now...The Hand!
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How pissed is
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Ashcans posted:How pissed is Tridents are a two handed weapon, kinda need two hands for it.
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Well, that page inspired revulsion in me, so I guess it deserves to be in this thread, good job.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:22
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Evil Mastermind posted:Oh, you mean this one?
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PMush Perfect posted:All this stupid edgy bullshit being in front of the giant penny just wonderfully encapsulates everything wrong with this kind of writing. If I didn't know better, I'd almost assume the irony was intentional.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:48
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Then it just steals the ending from Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?
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Gologle posted:Well, that page inspired revulsion in me, so I guess it deserves to be in this thread, good job. Yeah, I'm sorry for drawing that out, at least that page ended up where it belongs, in the funny panels thread. In the meantime, it inspired me to look at better comics, like Top Ten. I loved Joe PI the robot detective as a character and his interactions with Irma's kids were adorable.  Top Ten #11 Perry Normal fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Evil Mastermind posted:Oh, you mean this one? Sometimes comics are good. Sometimes comics are.. not so good. Like Master Race not good
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Skwirl posted:Tridents are a two handed weapon, kinda need two hands for it. He could have gotten a trident hand.
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ManiacClown posted:He could have gotten a trident hand. 
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Perry Normal posted:Yeah, I'm sorry for drawing that out, at least that page ended up where it belongs, in the funny panels thread. Top Ten is so so good. I wish there was more of it than there is. But on the other hand that's definitely the sort of series that was already running out of the ability to sustain its own quality by its end. ah well.
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That's not a trident!
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Evil Mastermind posted:Oh, you mean this one? Also worth pointing out: Depowered Supergirl became a cop, but gave that up to become that.
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Does anyone have that page from Top Ten where the giant space chesspiece helps a man come to terms with his impending death? To anyone who hasn't read it that previous sentence sounds ridiculous, but it was a great panel.
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And Tyler Too! posted:Does anyone have that page from Top Ten where the giant space chesspiece helps a man come to terms with his impending death? To anyone who hasn't read it that previous sentence sounds ridiculous, but it was a great panel. Here you go. Context: In this world, everyone has some sort of superpower. Several people with teleportation abilities got into a grisly traffic accident and there wasn't anything the medics could do but wait for them to die. The human is an Adam Strange type, the big horse guy is a knight in a cosmic chess game.  Top Ten #8
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Evil Mastermind posted:Oh, you mean this one? "shock-value appearance"
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Elfface posted:Also worth pointing out: Depowered Supergirl became a cop, but gave that up to become that. Also worth mentioning is that Supergirl isn't a Kryptonian, and instead has an origin that is honestly just plain messy
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drrockso20 posted:Also worth mentioning is that Supergirl isn't a Kryptonian, and instead has an origin that is honestly just plain messy Oh, is that the one that's a shapeshifter from an alternate dimension that used to date Lex Luthor Jr, who in turn was Lex Luthor's brain in a cloned body pretending to be his own son? (And people bitch about X-Men continuity)
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Skwirl posted:Oh, is that the one that's a shapeshifter from an alternate dimension that used to date Lex Luthor Jr, who in turn was Lex Luthor's brain in a cloned body pretending to be his own son? (And people bitch about X-Men continuity) She later merged with both a human woman and an angel, cause comics
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