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Mafia edit ##Beserk: tpink ##vote: Yorkshire Tea
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Jun 27, 2017 21:22
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I'll also jump to ##vote YT
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Jun 27, 2017 21:23
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Kashuno posted:
Phone posting makes me somehow even worse at mafia than normal.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:23
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it's ##berserk and ##vote
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Because even if I killed town I'd gain information. To me that's more valuable than being safe. Bad argument on top of being a bad vig ##vote YT
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Jun 27, 2017 21:23
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To summarize: People we should get rid of - Random town that may have good abilities that could help. People we should keep: People who are definitely not town, and the people that are randomly throwing vigs around.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:24
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Because even if I killed town I'd gain information. To me that's more valuable than being safe. this argument doesn't make sense. A 3P with possible killing abilities is actively worse than a townie with killing abilities.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:25
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Why are people voting Yorkshire Tea? I thought Quid got daycopped Scum?
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Jun 27, 2017 21:26
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Lumpen posted:Why are people voting Yorkshire Tea? I thought Quid got daycopped Scum? Inf lied about N0 copping Quid scum, from all indications.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:27
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Like, seriously, if this was even coordinated better it would make more sense. Pick two people you think are scummy. Vote one and vig the other with the other zerkers helping out. Spreading out the pain just makes it easier to NK people.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:27
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The only actual cops so far come from Bards: Inf not town, Slasher town, Moat town, Lumpen town
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Jun 27, 2017 21:27
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Still waiting for responses to this too:King Burgundy posted:He's going to keep using his ability if he stays in the game.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:28
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Oh hey, paging anybody who's got cool protective roles: I know I look super townie right now but as I mentioned, you can't use the same bard song two days in a row so I got no daycop tomorrow. I recommend looking after Max or Jam or TM instead. Also if I die soon I don't have to spreadsheet all this poo poo
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Jun 27, 2017 21:28
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Kashuno posted:this argument doesn't make sense. A 3P with possible killing abilities is actively worse than a townie with killing abilities. Town can only win by SCUMHUNTING. tpink is no threat to Town until near LYLO, and at that point he is a totally known quantity.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:28
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King Burgundy posted:Inf lied about N0 copping Quid scum, from all indications. Inf claimed N0, the bards claimed D1 gives me pause. Also it being Inf gives me pause.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:28
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The cop was one shot, it doesn't matter.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:28
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King Burgundy posted:Inf lied about N0 copping Quid scum, from all indications. Quid didn't react well to it, if I remember correctly
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Jun 27, 2017 21:29
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Lumpen posted:But we KNOW tpink is a Survivor who can win with Town, as opposed to people we don't know that about, who could be Scum, which tpink can not be. Throwing vigs out at random with little to no justification or discussion isn't scumhunting
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Jun 27, 2017 21:30
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Bifauxnen posted:Oh hey, paging anybody who's got cool protective roles: I've been debating the spreadsheet thing this game. King Burgundy posted:Still waiting for responses to this too:  
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Jun 27, 2017 21:31
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Max posted:The cop was one shot, it doesn't matter. Aw gently caress, so it is Never mind protect me instead 
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Jun 27, 2017 21:31
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Kashuno posted:Throwing vigs out at random with little to no justification or discussion isn't scumhunting
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Jun 27, 2017 21:32
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Kashuno posted:Throwing vigs out at random with little to no justification or discussion isn't scumhunting Was just to post this. On top of that, tpink COULD vote with the town but he has no commitment or need to, so seems like a better shot for forced vig that firing off at random.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:33
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KB: Going necromancer is still a gamble, even if it's flat odds. I want more info on how it works before I fire it off. Not much point in offing Kush now because he popped both muder abilities, the rest are pretty flatly neutral.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:35
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Bifaux, my response was to something you posted, kinda surprised you aren't responding at least.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:35
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Added Space posted:KB: Going necromancer is still a gamble, even if it's flat odds. I want more info on how it works before I fire it off. What do you not know about the ability? I can give you all the details of it because it's really straight forward.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:37
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Christ this game moves fast.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:40
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Added Space posted:KB: Going necromancer is still a gamble, even if it's flat odds. I want more info on how it works before I fire it off. 
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Jun 27, 2017 21:40
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Added Space posted:KB: Going necromancer is still a gamble, even if it's flat odds. I want more info on how it works before I fire it off. I'd argue frog at the least is also anti town, since it is going to hit more town then scum. Jail can be argued as neutral. Mass bus drive can be argued as neutral I guess, if no one is relying on any investigative type roles.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:40
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Kashuno posted:What do you not know about the ability? I can give you all the details of it because it's really straight forward. Yeah, he should have it all already since he claims to have gotten it as well.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:41
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King Burgundy posted:Bifaux, my response was to something you posted, kinda surprised you aren't responding at least. What, that was a question? I already said I believe Kash, so I don't believe we should vote him for being scum. I also agree with the math points Poque raised about it maybe being a net positive after all. (in principle anyway, his first calculations may have been off) it just feels very personally annoying I'm sure, if you're one of the people hit.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:42
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Kashuno posted:this argument doesn't make sense. A 3P with possible killing abilities is actively worse than a townie with killing abilities. Look, I'm going to die anyway because I had the audacity to shoot someone in a game where we have over a hundred lives. First Tpink. I'm not going to shoot him because he's 3P and that at least gives me some insight into how he'll act. Scum are likely to have more killing abilities so his ability to survive the game to the end is contingent on scum dying. That is until the game turns. To me, until maybe day 3 or 4 he's effectively going to act as a town player. So I'm not going to kill him because I have some insight into the way that he'll act. That's useful to me. We have no idea if Lmac is scum or town. Literally none. As long as he's alive we have no information beyond what he says which is functionally useless until we can confirm his alignment. I think he's scum. Part of that is because of how hard he pushed Inf, and I'm not afraid to admit it, part of that is because he rubbed me the wrong way D1 and I was out for revenge. The most important thing to note is that we are operating from different basic assumptions. I think that 3P favours town early in the game and I was dead set against the Inf lynch as a result. So I shot the man I thought might be scum. And I'll die for it. So be it. I'm sad I won't get to release my Beastmaster pet tonight, but meh, swings and roundabouts.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:42
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Poque posted:this is really minimizing it Mine was via tsunami. Yorkshire Tea posted:Because even if I killed town I'd gain information. To me that's more valuable than being safe. This is LITERALLY THE REVERSE from your stupid loving no lynch advocacy yesterday. You're just pissing where the wind takes you. I hope it takes you to HELL.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:42
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Bifauxnen posted:What, that was a question? I already said I believe Kash, so I don't believe we should vote him for being scum. So to confirm, you are encouraging me and Added to also use our powers?
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Jun 27, 2017 21:43
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Also I'm town because what a dumb loving gambit claiming essentially vanilla town in a role madness game would be. My water job was Ninja, btw.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:44
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Little Mac posted:This is LITERALLY THE REVERSE from your stupid loving no lynch advocacy yesterday. You're just pissing where the wind takes you. I hope it takes you to HELL. Like seriously, I just want you to die because of how goddamn angry you get over Mafia. But to be clear. I think D1 vigs are pointless because the pushes are rarely meaningful and the flips rarely say anything. I think my own kills have a point because they allow me to confirm thoughts that I personally have. They're different things.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:45
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Scum are likely to have more killing abilities How would you know this?
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Jun 27, 2017 21:45
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Mafia edit D1 lynch not D1 kill.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:45
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Kashuno posted:How would you know this? Because I can infer things based on how I expect games are set up. It's literally all I ever do in Mafia.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:46
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Look, I'm going to die anyway because I had the audacity to shoot someone in a game where we have over a hundred lives. 3P favors 3P. They don't give a poo poo about town and you can't assume to know how they play. You say it's "useful to me" but that wording is telling. Knowing how they will act can help you achieve your wincon. What IS your wincon? You berserkered me because I pushed a lynch that lots of other people were pushing. Hell, Slasher Hawke literally called you an idiot for half the day. Your revenge claims are hollow. You're scum.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:47
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Max posted:OK but the vig is just being thrown around. If you have to vig, throw it at someone like Tpink. Hey gently caress you buddy. As I said before, I am perfectly happy winning this game together with town and I don't think anything I've done or said to date indicates otherwise.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:47
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tpink posted:Hey gently caress you buddy. As I said before, I am perfectly happy winning this game together with town and I don't think anything I've done or said to date indicates otherwise. you are known 3p, and therefore anti-town by default.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:48
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