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Platystemon posted:
A bit late, but this look like the flame trails from the aircraft on the original Ultraman series. 
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Didn’t see this posted here yet. 
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Feb 7, 2018 17:12
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Looks like an IL-2 Sturmovik, paint it green and drob bombs on Proudboy marches.
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Feb 7, 2018 17:42
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Blind Rasputin posted:Didn’t see this posted here yet. 
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Feb 7, 2018 17:43
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Kinda jealous of how excited you all are about Falcon 9.
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Feb 7, 2018 20:38
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Are we still able to make Saturn 5's?
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Feb 7, 2018 20:52
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Raenir Salazar posted:Are we still able to make Saturn 5's? I'm sure we could but it'd be way more expensive than just developing a new superhuge giant fuckoff rocket. That said I'd love to see what government/industry could come up with on a billion-dollar-a-shot budget.
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Feb 7, 2018 21:06
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It's called SLS. If it's not up to 1b per launch it probably hasn't launched yet.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Are we still able to make Saturn 5's? I really doubt it. The tooling probably doesn't exist anymore and it was subcontracted out all to hell and a bunch of those subcontractors probably don't exist anymore.
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Feb 7, 2018 23:33
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Yeah, you can't exactly call to Grumman to build another lunar lander.
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Feb 7, 2018 23:39
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You picked one of the few that still exists. Edit: Tooling is long gone, but the plans are still archived.
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Feb 7, 2018 23:58
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Plans doesn't mean poo poo though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aerospace is not typically a "Mass" manufacturing environment, there's still a lot of hand fitting and product specific knowledge required to put one together. A lot of which doesn't get documented. The prints for the LM are just a starting point.
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Feb 8, 2018 00:11
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MRC48B posted:Plans doesn't mean poo poo though. Yeah, I know NASA is super anal about plans, but there has got to be a ton of tacit knowledge that didn't get copied down. That knowledge is now buried deep in cobwebs of the brains of 75+ year olds or 6 feet under.
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Feb 8, 2018 00:13
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Someday, Inshallah spacecraft will be a commodity product, punched out by minimum wage robots and synths manufacturing processes, but until that day, it takes a lot of skill, the nuances of which do not get recorded.
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Feb 8, 2018 00:18
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When I was at NASA they said they will be using the SLS by 2019 with plans by 20-21 to be moving mass harder than a Saturn V farther away. I highly doubt it.
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Feb 8, 2018 01:01
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Blind Rasputin posted:When I was at NASA they said they will be using the SLS by 2019 with plans by 20-21 to be moving mass harder than a Saturn V farther away. I highly doubt it. Well, the boss can't exactly get upon stage, take a pull of vodka, and say, "Astronauts don't even go to the moon anymore. We gonna get defunded into nothing but a clearinghouse for buying MIC rockets and funneling contracts for commercial satellites to donors, because Republicans are terrified we might study climate change, and doing great things would involve raising taxes."
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Feb 8, 2018 01:34
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Yeah, I know NASA is super anal about plans, but there has got to be a ton of tacit knowledge that didn't get copied down. That knowledge is now buried deep in cobwebs of the brains of 75+ year olds or 6 feet under. They had to go to a museum to take an Apollo umbilical apart so they could see exactly how it attached to the service module.
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Feb 8, 2018 01:54
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MRC48B posted:Plans doesn't mean poo poo though. There's also a bunch of entirely mundane off-the-shelf components, or custom parts that use those parts, that aren't available any more. Think of all the little switches and latches and valves, most of the companies that made those specific items either aren't around or don't make those parts any more. Not to mention more specialized industrial items like computers and electrical components. And everything is interconnected, so it's not like you can just swap the main guidance computer for an iPhone. Eventually you would be changing so many components that you're really designing a new rocket that's vaguely Saturn V-shaped. Much like how the modern 737 exists. 
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Much like how the modern 737 exists. And like the 737, the originals would be cooler anyway.
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Cat Hatter posted:They had to go to a museum to take an Apollo umbilical apart so they could see exactly how it attached to the service module. Yeah...the Air Force has been pulling parts from museums. Probably the Navy and Marines, too.
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Godholio posted:Yeah...the Air Force has been pulling parts from museums. Probably the Navy and Marines, too. There was a story a couple of years ago about how the Marines had to pull a landing gear strut or something off a Hornet on the USS Midway museum.
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JcDent posted:Kinda jealous of how excited you all are about Falcon 9. Growing up, my two favorite things were space exploration and military history. Watching the Falcon Heavy made me nostalgic in a way I didn't think was possible.
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Feb 8, 2018 03:06
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There's a MiR core module at a museum in the Wisconsin Dells (it was originally supposed to use a new core every five years before they decided to just sell the spares) . Apparently on several occasions they bought back odds and ends to send up as things failed. Makes a ton of sense really, why build new if you don't have to
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Feb 8, 2018 03:10
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In all honesty, the only real reason to build more Saturn Vs would be "because it's loving awesome." The Saturn V was the pinnacle of rocket technology in 1967. I would really hope we could come up with something better 50 years later.
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MRC48B posted:Plans doesn't mean poo poo though. This. I work on the B-52, and while we still have all (most) of the original plans in dusty yellowing binders, we can barely get replacement parts for things made 20 years ago let alone 60. It goes beyond a company not making part X anymore or trashing the tooling, the whole technology might have been discontinued 40 years ago (vacuum tubes, purely mechanical switching and control equipment). Its also likely the company that made it has been gone for 30 years or been bought out a dozen times.
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Feb 8, 2018 03:27
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Xenoborg posted:This. I work on the B-52, and while we still have all (most) of the original plans in dusty yellowing binders, we can barely get replacement parts for things made 20 years ago let alone 60. It goes beyond a company not making part X anymore or trashing the tooling, the whole technology might have been discontinued 40 years ago (vacuum tubes, purely mechanical switching and control equipment). Its also likely the company that made it has been gone for 30 years or been bought out a dozen times. This but with forgings. A bunch of safety and fatigue critical parts designed 50+ years ago have horrible yield rates with forgings these days so they now buy similar material in bar stock and machine it from a solid block. Of course this takes a lot of testing and buy in from stakeholders so they come at hilarious prices.
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Feb 8, 2018 03:34
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I saw this and am now fully behind a pointless military parade
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Feb 8, 2018 03:58
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Did forging get less good or did machining just push it out of most production techinques?
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Cat Hatter posted:They had to go to a museum to take an Apollo umbilical apart so they could see exactly how it attached to the service module. I work at a National Lab and this poo poo happens in science more than you'd think.
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McNally posted:In all honesty, the only real reason to build more Saturn Vs would be "because it's loving awesome." The Saturn V was the pinnacle of rocket technology in 1967. I would really hope we could come up with something better 50 years later. With that kind of budget, sure. And Falcon Heavy will deliver much more bang for the buck; but the Saturn V is still twice as powerful.
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Feb 8, 2018 04:51
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give me this in high res pls
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Waroduce posted:give me this in high res pls this is what google came up with, an improvement imho 
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Feb 8, 2018 05:12
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^^^ Is that real or a photoshop?Waroduce posted:give me this in high res pls https://twitter.com/padouche/status/888669416682074112 HIghest I can find.
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Feb 8, 2018 05:18
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:^^^ Is that real or a photoshop? Not real, paint like that might mess up the radar.
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Feb 8, 2018 05:19
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Plinkey posted:Not real, paint like that might mess up the radar. Aw  Not like anyone would allow such fun to happen nowadays anyway.
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Feb 8, 2018 05:20
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:^^^ Is that real or a photoshop? If it involves the Air Force and the concept of levity, you can be sure it's 100% fake.
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One of the things that blew me away at NASA was that all of the control rooms and computers they used to make the Saturn V and moon landing happen combined are probably still not as powerful as the phone I had in my pocket, yet they pulled it off. I’m reading the Three Body Problem right now (which is fantastic) and there’s a part where they use an army of 30 million soldiers with flags to recreate a motherboard for calculus computations. The human mind is just loving cool.
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Feb 8, 2018 07:30
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A-10s are cool. https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c4c_1518036584
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Dark Helmut posted:A-10s are cool. those loving bullet holes 
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Designed to take down massed formation of WARPAC tanks, used to shoot up lovely SUVs in the middle of nowhere.
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