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Hearts are a special event thing that you get from running Call to Love. Rubies are the game's premium currency that you will occasionally find while playing and which give fairly minor rewards on their own.
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Feb 15, 2018 03:04
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Now that you can reset excavations for free just save rubies for time skipping when you're unlocking spell tiers.
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Feb 15, 2018 03:09
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What does resetting excavation do anyway? Will it destroy the treasures I've found?
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Feb 15, 2018 03:10
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No, those stick around forever, but sometimes you need to excavate for faction coins to get some builds started. If you've gone too deep to reasonably afford more excavations when you need them then you need to reset. Early on, try to save excavations until you need them, unless you're about to reincarnate in which case go nuts.
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Feb 15, 2018 03:12
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So, resetting just resets the price of excavating for free? In that case, couldn’t I just reset infinitely to get all the artifacts and infinite faction coins?
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Feb 15, 2018 03:56
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Ariong posted:So, resetting just resets the price of excavating for free? In that case, couldn’t I just reset infinitely to get all the artifacts and infinite faction coins? The number of excavations required to get a free reset increases the more you reset.
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Feb 15, 2018 03:57
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On top of that, the free excavations decimate your production during a run until you abdicate, so you'd want to reset then immediately abdicate thereby losing all of the faction coins. Artifacts also aren't just a random chance, there are prerequisites before they'll even show up (that's the "eligible artifacts" thing)
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Feb 15, 2018 04:00
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:The number of excavations required to get a free reset increases the more you reset. Oh, so what should I be looking for when I'm deciding whether it's time to reset? garfield hentai posted:On top of that, the free excavations decimate your production during a run until you abdicate Wait, what? IN what way? quote:Artifacts also aren't just a random chance, there are prerequisites before they'll even show up (that's the "eligible artifacts" thing) What are the prerequisites? How do I get more eligible artifacts?
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Feb 15, 2018 04:07
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Ariong posted:Oh, so what should I be looking for when I'm deciding whether it's time to reset? When you get a bit deeper into the game, you'll start to use builds that need a good chunk of faction coins to get off the ground (early neutral faction stuff mostly from what I can remember). Ideally you do just enough excavations to get what you need and you'll be okay without having to reset at all unless you go nuts chasing after an artifact. quote:Wait, what? IN what way? It cuts your production down by 90% until you abdicate. Once you get into it a bit though you'll be abdicating all the drat time. quote:What are the prerequisites? How do I get more eligible artifacts? Play as x faction, play within certain hours, have at least x hours as this faction, cast x spell enough and your chance of getting it is x minutes / 100000%, etc. Early progression ones are set at given numbers of excavations but the later ones are a lot more obtuse. Just use a guide honestly.
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Feb 15, 2018 04:20
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Numberwang posted:NGU new patch is bugged. I even tried restarting browser w/ Empty Cache & Hard Reload. fixed it about 30 mins iafter. you should be on .351 now What, did you think I'd make a patch bug freethe first time? 
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Feb 15, 2018 04:47
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Oh, okay. It turns out that you need to do 2000 excavations to reset them. I have 44. O_O So I guess that won't be a thing for a while. Also, that's yet another thing I didn't know. Getting this game to provide information about its systems is like pulling teeth! EDIT: Are some factions just worse than others? I've currently hit a wall with the last one I hadn't tried, Angels. Seems like your big moneymaker is to get enough mana regen to have God's Hand and Call to Love on at all times, but I'm not making anywhere near as much as I did with Undead and it's assistant boost power. Ariong fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Feb 15, 2018 |
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Feb 15, 2018 04:58
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Did some of the Ascension maluses get lowered in the last year or so? I just got back into this and am plowing through the walls I was hitting from when I last played.
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Feb 15, 2018 04:58
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Ariong posted:EDIT: Are some factions just worse than others? Every faction has a time where it shines, the game changes wildly at certain points that can change a faction from complete garbage to the #1 in a single reincarnation.
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Feb 15, 2018 05:06
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Cinara posted:Every faction has a time where it shines, the game changes wildly at certain points that can change a faction from complete garbage to the #1 in a single reincarnation. Yeah, but you can play for a whole year before Undead become good.
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Feb 15, 2018 05:55
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Yeah it's less that any are worse or better, it's that over time the systems and options available to you shift it around so the best answer tends to change a lot. Like I was doing a ton of dwarf/fairy stuff but now it's all faceless all the time.
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Feb 15, 2018 08:43
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In R0-R46 it's pretty much all Elf, all the time. Elf lineage, elf alignment, dwelves, elf mercenaries... and I think the only challenges worth doing before mercenaries are elf 1 (and fairy 1). Meanwhile, A2 is a giant boring slog (I'm at R107) and I'm glad I can work on the G00f Not-a-wiki website makeover to keep me interested in the game at all.
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Feb 15, 2018 10:03
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In R0 I thought it was around: Angels: My first one and pretty cool but very active Elf: Great for Faction Coins, extremely active Fairies: Just ok Goblins: Same Undead: Absolute slog, might as well not play the game Demons: Pretty OP, as far as starting Factions go Titans: Incredible profits Druids: Almost worse than the Undead, takes absolutely forever to get all the Factions coins but once you do they're pretty sweet Faceless: If those are the last you pick, absolute broken, you'll be swimming in Gems Drows & Dwarves: Both of these unlocked pretty late into R0 so I can't tell who's better but they both insanely lucrative, I'm genuinely wondering how the ones that'll come after will manage to outdo these
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Feb 15, 2018 13:53
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The game in R0 is vastly differnet from the game in R16 which is again different from, say R42 to r73 to R110, it's one of the really nice things about RG
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Feb 15, 2018 14:06
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Merijn posted:In R0-R46 it's pretty much all Elf, all the time. Elf lineage, elf alignment, dwelves, elf mercenaries... and I think the only challenges worth doing before mercenaries are elf 1 (and fairy 1). That being said, A2 is definitely endgame right now and there's not a ton going on, so yes it's a brutal slog (R109 for almost a month at this point), though I've been trying out various things and not just prod-grinding
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Feb 15, 2018 14:07
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Now wait a goddamn second I did the first Undead Challenge but the bonus only applies if I'm playing as Undead!? This is utter, absolute and complete bullshit
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Feb 15, 2018 14:36
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Samuringa posted:Now wait a goddamn second IIRC, tier 1 challenge rewards are for that faction, tier 2 are for a different faction, and tier 3 are for all factions? It's been a while since I touched RG.
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Feb 15, 2018 14:58
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You need to have completed challenge 1 to do challenge 2, so it's not a complete waste.
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Feb 15, 2018 15:28
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Kyrosiris posted:IIRC, tier 1 challenge rewards are for that faction, tier 2 are for a different faction, and tier 3 are for all factions? It's been a while since I touched RG. For the "Vanilla" factions, that's correct: Challenge 1 rewards = That faction Challenge 2 rewards = a different faction Challenge 3 rewards = All factions and unlocks a bonus to the challenge faction's spell Once you get to mercenary, and eventually lineages, this means it applies to more than just it's base faction Once you get into the neutral factions, it's Challenge 1 & 2 rewards = Different factions Challenge 3 rewards = That faction Challege 4 = All factions plus a bonus to the challenge faction's spell. The prestige factions have either 5 or 6 for Dragons And since I'm in A2 I don't currently have access to those challenges to figure out how they apply to different base factions, but I believe it is one for each base faction, plus one that applies to all base factions (still requires the specific prestige faction), one that applies to all factions with a bonus unlock for that specific prestige faction's spell.
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Feb 15, 2018 15:33
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A2 is so boring I want my mercs back drat it these numbers suck several asses and I want all the colours back too oh well, getting all the event bonuses was a piece of piss and I guess once it's over I'll look into those new artifact thingers Samuringa posted:Now wait a goddamn second Later there's a faction that gets every challenge bonus at once and it is amazing. Game just doesn't want to blow your mind entirely just yet.
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Feb 15, 2018 16:34
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Samuringa posted:Both of these unlocked pretty late into R0 so I can't tell who's better but they both insanely lucrative, I'm genuinely wondering how the ones that'll come after will manage to outdo these (and yes that gets obsoleted later on too)
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Feb 15, 2018 16:50
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NGU: Thanks for the auto merge. One thing, i think it needs to be clearer what the 'auto' things do and don't do while offline. For example, auto advance doesn't seem to work at all while offline but you would probably expect it to.
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Feb 15, 2018 19:48
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You don't get any drops while offline afaik.
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Feb 15, 2018 19:59
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The Ninth Layer posted:You don't get any drops while offline afaik. You dont get any adventure mode offline period. Basically, you should only go offline if you've spent the half hour opening up all the attacks/defences and have all your energy/magic gathered and dumped in your highest aug.
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Feb 15, 2018 20:13
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NGU: Awful Sheet v3.1.1 is out https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16XtLtY3LdxuEvsUKeS5opN3gYpLo_PfqxqJA3l_mF14/edit#gid=282434329 As always let me know of any issues.
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Feb 15, 2018 20:19
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pixaal posted:NGU: Awful Sheet v3.1.1 is out The logic of the new "Bar XP for 10k in goal" calculation seems off. Shouldn't there only be a value here if adding the 10k cap would push you over your ideal time? Right now, it looks like it is being used all the time, vastly changing the recommended ratio between Cap/Power from the previous version of the sheet.
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Feb 15, 2018 20:37
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NGU: A giant green seed has eaten my Money Pit cooldown for the 20th time. Whatever this is, the implementation feels real lovely after the first couple times.
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Feb 15, 2018 20:48
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Toshimo posted:NGU: A giant green seed has eaten my Money Pit cooldown for the 20th time. Whatever this is, the implementation feels real lovely after the first couple times. Yeah, it relates to the feature you get after you beat the second Titan, but the fact that you can get seeds as low as like a billion gold is kind of a buzzkill. If, like pixaal has suggested in discord, there was an invisible counter and you got those seeds eventually it wouldn't be as bad, but drat.
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Feb 15, 2018 20:52
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Klungar posted:The logic of the new "Bar XP for 10k in goal" calculation seems off. Shouldn't there only be a value here if adding the 10k cap would push you over your ideal time? Right now, it looks like it is being used all the time, vastly changing the recommended ratio between Cap/Power from the previous version of the sheet. Yes that is the entire point, you effectively need to purchase additional bars to maintain your current time. It assumes you are currently balanced. If you only need say half an Energy Per Bar level to increase it, it only takes into account half the XP cost. It's not taking your current time into account because it is irreverent. (It'd make the calculation way more complicated to effectively do the same thing) the sheet is already picking up some noticeable lag so performance is a concern.
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Feb 15, 2018 20:53
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah, it relates to the feature you get after you beat the second Titan, but the fact that you can get seeds as low as like a billion gold is kind of a buzzkill. It does a great job of making you wonder just what are seeds and want to find out. Ideally this counter shouldn't be invisible. Ideally the feature's button would show up as ???? once you got the first seed. On the screen you'd only see "You don't know why but you are saving a bunch of seeds. They seem important. You have 18 Seeds."
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Feb 15, 2018 20:54
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Is there a save bug in NGU? It's started eating exp when I spend it, but not saving the features; I've lost a full 100k of energy upgrades without noticing it.
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Feb 15, 2018 23:25
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NGU: Is there any reason for me to keep ahold of my forest gear now i've got a full set of cave gear?
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Feb 16, 2018 00:02
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Kin posted:NGU: Is there any reason for me to keep ahold of my forest gear now i've got a full set of cave gear? Pendant, yes. The rest, only if you want to max it to 100 for the set bonus.
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Feb 16, 2018 00:05
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Toshimo posted:Pendant, yes. The rest, only if you want to max it to 100 for the set bonus. BTW, the set bonus is worth ~1000xp
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Feb 16, 2018 00:06
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Omi no Kami posted:Is there a save bug in NGU? It's started eating exp when I spend it, but not saving the features; I've lost a full 100k of energy upgrades without noticing it. Online save is every 20 minutes, before closing you should hit the save buttons. both online and manual backup, because a backup is always a good idea. Also you get 200AP for making a manual save at least once a day.
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RG: With some patience, fast clicking (undead), and careful use of Lara Crypt, I've gotten 8 of the 10 new artifacts, burning a lucky super-tiny number on the druid artifact. Hourglass I can largely grind out at my convenience, but allow me to say gently caress the conditions for the elf artifact.
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