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Twilight Zone, Monster Bash, or Creature From The Black Lagoon. Banzai Run could be super cool, but I just don’t know if it has a high enough replay factor...
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Apr 17, 2018 16:57
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Still no update on my TNA cab. Startin' to get a tad annoyed.
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algebra testes posted:Same, but Iron Man. I love that game. This is my second favorite fan game for sure.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:31
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Oh god, only one table? Simpsons Pinball Party. It's *really* hard to choose between that and Addams Family for me.
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Zombie Squared posted:If you could buy only one table, what would it be? Circus Voltaire Star Trek: TNG Twilight Zone The Shadow Lord of the Rings I'd want something with decently deep rules and plenty of toys, and an attractive cabinet/backglass. RS chat: Personally I think putting regular chromed legs on Road Show significantly improves its exterior looks. The blue becomes a bit overpowering with blue legs as well.
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Finally got a chance to play the new Star Wars, not sure if its nostalgia or an inherent bias, but I like it. Played super fast and I liked that there were plenty of options for shots. I'd probably pick that table to have right now to own.
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I'd also go with Cirqus Voltaire. It's got a great mix of quick-and-easy achievements and longer-term difficult achievements to get to the wizard mode, and each achievement requires unique objectives (unlike, say, Twilight Zone, where the achievements are playing modes, and while the modes themselves are different, the method of starting them is always the same), so building up to the wizard mode doesn't feel like a slog. The art is great, and the heavy use of purple-green-orange in its color palette, which are secondary to the traditional red-yellow-blue primary colors, gives it a slightly offsetting atmosphere, which is perfect for its hosed-up circus theme. The only thing I really don't like about it is the stupid kangaroo-hopping video mode. I would have given it to Medieval Madness, but I've never played a physical table that didn't suffer from unavoidable straight-down-the-middle syndrome after a castle gate shot. That's just not acceptable for a shot that is so fundamental to the game's design and progression. The metal plate that leads into the castle gate really should have been one way, dumping the ball into the moat after a castle shot, and then to a kickout. Wizard of Oz would probably also be high on my list, from the little bit I played of it. Seemed like a lot going on that could keep me entertained for a long time, but I didn't really get to know the ruleset very well.
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Apr 18, 2018 12:53
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Simpsons Pinball Party owns bones, would probably be my pick out of the real-life tables I've played. I need to try some more physical tables next time I'm somewhere with a good scene.
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Apr 18, 2018 13:03
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I would get Scared Stiff. That or Centaur.
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codenameFANGIO posted:I would get Scared Stiff. That or Centaur. Doesn't scared stiff get boring because its a bit simple? Although I love everything about it otherwise.
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If I ever get the space (and can find them at a non-insane price here in Australia) I want a Rollergames for the song and the way it plays with its balls, a World Cup Soccer for the goal keeper gimmick, and a Firepower II solely because the sounds it makes are quintessentially "pinball" to me. Hell yes there are better games with deeper rule-sets that would appeal over the longer term, but those 3 will always be on the list.
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algebra testes posted:Doesn't scared stiff get boring because its a bit simple? Although I love everything about it otherwise. It is definitely in the easier side but it’s got Elvira and bad sex jokes and the Stiff In The Coffin. It’s so dumb and fun and satisfying to play. I could play it forever. Also I won’t consider the table truly completed until I light up all the stuff on the spider dial (which I will never do) my other choice Centaur is tough but fair and it is about a half-man, half-motorcycle and the theme feels like a particularly badass issue of Heavy Metal, down to the mostly black and white scheme with strategic bits of color. It’s so drat cool.
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speaking of cool euro 80’s sci-fi comic book pinball Embryon is one of the coolest loving tables i have ever seen in my life https://youtu.be/pv07yvkEjuU
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Zombie Squared posted:If you could buy only one table, what would it be? Whoa Nellie, so that I could film it being office space'd.
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Just took delivery of my Iron Maiden and it’s definitely in the running for my one game for home. I know it’s early to make that call but this is the most loaded pro I’ve ever seen and it shoots like a demon. If anybody is in northern indiana I’m throwing a launch party at the brewery it’s going to live at on May 11th.
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Well, I definitely know what my dad would say if I asked him the question of what table he would want if he could only ever own one (disregarding the part where we only own a beat-up Mr. and Mrs. Pac-Man because it was dirt cheap because we got a discount as a favor) - Scared Stiff. Man, he loves that table. He was bummed the hell out when we were at the Pinball Hall of Fame because it was currently turned off and didn't get repaired while we were there. In my case, it's a tough question. I can either make a rational choice, or a sentimental one. The rational choice is Lord of the Rings or Simpsons Pinball Party, tending towards the former, because they have stupidly deep rulesheets with modes that you might not be able to reach in years of home play. The sentimental one? X-Files. I never even have watched the show, but for some reason, I absolutely love that table, and I'm the only person I know that even considers that game to be noteworthy in a positive way. I actually spent the last time I went to the Pinball Hall of Fame playing the poo poo out of their X-Files in my hunt for Blood, the wizard mode. I actually ended up managing it and putting a high score on the board - at #3 on the board with about 20 million. I contend that the default high scores on X-Files are way, way too high, and would love to know if there is somebody out there that actually can score GC+ level scores on that game. Sidenote: It really annoys me that the IPDB rulesheet for X-Files has a lot of wrong stuff. Like, either there is some other version of the ROM out there that acts differently, or it's just full of weird things that I have never seen (there is no skill shot in the game, for one, and the choice of the detective is actually crucial to which multiball you want to focus on, as it gives you bonuses that make the multiballs easier to reach, which isn't mentioned at all). But what *really* annoys me is that I know drat well I've written a more accurate rulesheet for X-Files, but now I can't track it down anymore. I think I might have to recreate it at some point.
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Just got to play Iron Maiden this afternoon for the first time. A bowling alley near me literally unboxed theirs two days ago. It's an incredibly fun and intuitive table. Definitely worthy of all the hype and easily my favorite of the new Sterns. it blows Ghostbusters, Aerosmith, and Kiss out of the water in my opinion. Metallica is pretty good, but Iron Maiden is my new instant favorite
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Discendo Vox posted:Whoa Nellie, so that I could film it being office space'd. I am unclear on what you have against Whoa Nellie: Big Juicy Melons
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Deviant posted:I am unclear on what you have against Maybe he just wants to be the next Gallagher?
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In a related question: my wife FINALLY gave me the thumbs up to shop for a table. My budget is probably up to 5-6 grand, or possibly more if I can make a compelling argument why (like, for instance, this table is an investment). My position thus far is basically "it won't drop in value, so it is basically having a couple grand in savings sitting in the basement in the form of pinball table rather than rotting in our savings account". I now need to find a table that will make this assertion somewhat close to true. So, what in yalls educated opinions is the best dollar-for-entertainment value table, on a table that will hold its value for as long as I own it? My personal favorites are basically the standards: MM, Cirqus Voltaire, WOZ, TZ, GOT, Simpsons PP, Monster Bash, and so on. These of course are also all of the most expensive tables, especially older ones that have been refurbished. I'd also like to not buy retail to avoid taxes. I'm open to just about anything.
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I can’t recommend buying any table as an investment. Anything that is fun and climbs above $6500 is a candidate for a remake. Maybe $2k you can sort of make an argument for without it being an outright lie.
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bewbies posted:In a related question: my wife FINALLY gave me the thumbs up to shop for a table. My budget is probably up to 5-6 grand, or possibly more if I can make a compelling argument why (like, for instance, this table is an investment). As far as not losing value - it's kinda sorta true, but 100% only if you're buying used. Which isn't that bad a thing at all. No surprises with lovely build quality etc. If you're buying new in box it's pretty much the classic driving a new car off the lot scenario. I'd also anecdotally say it's probably more true for lower end DMD games. The Demolition Man and Johnny Mnemonics of the world. Frankly, those are also two of the best fun for your dollar tables in my book. The themes themselves are just stupid as poo poo. Depends how well you're able to look past that. Would stay away from Monster Bash for now. It's definitely on the remake docket. It's not like AFM and MM originals became free when the remakes came out, but if you're concerned about holding value it could be an issue. Of the ones on your list - I'd have a hard time picturing WOZ losing it's value in part due to fewer of them being made. And having been out for a while you might find a decent enough deal on one. More anecdotal "evidence" but I was able to sell my TSPP for $500 more than my wife paid for it roughly three years down the road. Of course a chunk of that just paid for the things I did to it, but there was still a couple hundred in sweet sweet pinball profit there.
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Lord of the Rings is probably not in the remake queue, due to licensing stuff. Spiderman got past that by retheming from Sam Raimi Spiderman to comic book Spider Man, but I don't really see that happening for Lord of the Rings. I'm of the opinion that if you get it at the right price, you'll never regret the purchase.
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There's going to be an Iron Maiden table at my league place tonight. I probably won't pick it but I don't know what my three teammates' plans are going to be. The arcade owner posted the rule set so everyone could brush up on the new table, and I thought I'd share it here in case any one is going to a release party or just wants to live vicariously through an instruction manual. http://www.sternpinball.com/upload/games/iron-maiden/pro/IM%20Backstage%20Pass%20Rules.pdf
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cosmicjim posted:I can’t recommend buying any table as an investment. Anything that is fun and climbs above $6500 is a candidate for a remake. Maybe $2k you can sort of make an argument for without it being an outright lie. Yeah I meant that..facetiously, I'm not actually expecting to make money on this enterprise but that doesn't mean I can't convince my wife we might. I'm looking hard at some less-prominent early DMD games...I'm pretty indifferent to theme, but I do want something vaguely similar to a modern stern table just for practice sake.
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The danger of all modern tables, is these companies could remake any of them at any given moment. Modern sterns will also start eventually flooding the market when these pinball bars close down or existing businesses run out of room and start selling off the older ones. As soon as used one starts costing as much as a new stern, stern will remake it. WoZ is not off the table, either. Who would have thought MM, AFM, and MB would have gotten remakes less than ten years ago?
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WOZ might actually be my #1 choice, except that it seems to have a LOT of maintenance issues and I'm definitely not comfortable dealing with fancier electronical poo poo like that.
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Anyone near Kalamazoo should come check out pinball at the zoo this weekend. I’ll have a few games there.
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Snacksmaniac posted:Anyone near Kalamazoo should come check out pinball at the zoo this weekend. I’ll have a few games there. I will be there on Saturday.
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My suggestion is to go with a modern Stern if you like any of their tables. Not much maintenance involved and they'll retain a good chunk of their value as long as you take care of it. Issue with a table like TZ is that you'll spend half the time working on it. Take it from someone who has one. Something needs tweaking every loving week on it. You're dealing with 30 year old boards and a machine that has been hacked together in a bowling alley where you'll never know what you'll find.
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Speaking of which - this came up on facebook the other day. If you do have a Twilight Zone - keep it the Hell away from this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMQykpfU21k
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Tony Phillips posted:Speaking of which - this came up on facebook the other day. He has a few genuinely cool things in there, like the Mystic Seer, eyeballs and The Power pyramid, but everything else either looks really cheap or just doesn't loving belong. Like why The Doors and Robbie the Robot?
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King Vidiot posted:The Doors don't touch the-... I've seen some "decked out" pins that look like toy cabinets. Stop gluing poo poo in there, and knock it off with the purple LEDs!
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The gumballs are the only good add-on I see people use on that machine.
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I liked the robot, but I'm a tacky person.
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cosmicjim posted:I liked the robot, but I'm a tacky person. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eYGgjG1foI
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The best TZ mod is a black and white DMD. I put one in my Creature and it’s 1000000x better than a color DMD.
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tonedef131 posted:The best TZ mod is a black and white DMD. I put one in my Creature and it’s 1000000x better than a color DMD. In searching for what a black and white DMD would look like, I came across this project to convert the entire Twilight Zone table to black and white! https://www.greatamericanpinball.com/single-post/2018/01/03/Update-to-Our-Black-and-White-Twilight-Zone-Pinball-Machine 
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Doggles posted:In searching for what a black and white DMD would look like, I came across this project to convert the entire Twilight Zone table to black and white! That project sat for a long rear end time but like that page says - they started back up on it in January. Their Pinside thread about it gets updated as they go. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/black-and-white-tz-coming-soon
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