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lazerus06
May 19, 2004
I had a chance to try Saw in the U-wing with Ezra/Maul crew and found it to be pretty fun. I thought about making building him to jam him into 3+ ships and shoot/block. I know at PS 6 it will be hard to block up Rookie pilot/Caver zealot x-wings, but it may be able to mess with imperial aces.

Here is the Saw build I was thinking about:
Saw Guerrera (39)
-Anti Pursuit Lasers
-Engine Upgrade
-Title
-Wired
-Advanced Sensors
-Renegade Refit
-Ezra
-Maul


I thought about it pairing with either a decked out Dash or Rey (would have to drop down the EU to something else to fit it with Rey). Have Saw just head straight in while Dash skirts around taking range 2 to 3 shots or have Rey flank while Saw mixes it up.

lazerus06 fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Jul 10, 2018

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enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
I used a list with Rebel Nym (because he won't exist soon, and I wanted to try him), Wedge, and Wes at a store championship and it picked a 5 x-wing list apart pretty drat quick.

Raged posted:

With Poonapple .......

Seriously, the gently caress?

TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS
I'm thinking of giving this a try for the Summer of Jank:
Omicron Group Pilot (21)
Targeting Scrambler (0)
Tractor Beam (1)
Rebel Captive (3)
Operations Specialist (3)
Tactical Jammer (1)

Scarif Base Pilot (22)
ISB Slicer (2)
Director Krennic (5)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Advanced Ailerons (0)

Starkiller Base Pilot (30)
General Hux (5)
Darth Vader (3)
Kylo Ren's Shuttle (2)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
I flew something similar (I think I posted the list in response to your question about all da shuttles, actually). It hit hard on the joust, the Lambda and Upsilon when down once stuff got behind it, and the Reaper was the superstar. It was fun.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





TheCenturion posted:

I'm thinking of giving this a try for the Summer of Jank:
Omicron Group Pilot (21)
Targeting Scrambler (0)
Tractor Beam (1)
Rebel Captive (3)
Operations Specialist (3)
Tactical Jammer (1)

Scarif Base Pilot (22)
ISB Slicer (2)
Director Krennic (5)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Advanced Ailerons (0)

Starkiller Base Pilot (30)
General Hux (5)
Darth Vader (3)
Kylo Ren's Shuttle (2)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

The biggest issue is that one of your three ships can't turn around at all. It will get one pass to deal damage, then be out of the game. The second biggest issue is that one of your other two ships can't turn around quickly.

Any opponent just has to get behind you to win.

With that in mind, if you want to run multi-shuttles, I'd trade some of the upgrades around. The Reaper is fine, but put Vader on the ship that only gets one pass anyway. Then give the Upsilon a way to turn around.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...0Logistics&obs=

I feel like you want A Real Ship in place of the Lambda here, though.

uncle blog
Nov 18, 2012

uncle blog posted:

Sicne both Saw and Wullf refer to the window «when attacking», are you allowed first roll your dice, take damage with Saw and then roll an additional dice?

Quoting myself as I got lastpaged. If this is allowed I’ll probably try it out.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
once Saw crew takes effect and you take the damage to turn all focus to crits, your attack is resolved and you cannot add attack dice. From my understanding, you can't add dice after the initial roll on attack or defense unless there is the 'after you roll dice' type wording. 'when attacking' refers to the beginning of the attack. I think. FFG think technical writers are the Devil.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





uncle blog posted:

Quoting myself as I got lastpaged. If this is allowed I’ll probably try it out.

It doesn't work.

Adding the die happens during the "gather dice" step. There's no opportunity to add another die to the roll after that.

TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS

ConfusedUs posted:

The biggest issue is that one of your three ships can't turn around at all. It will get one pass to deal damage, then be out of the game. The second biggest issue is that one of your other two ships can't turn around quickly.

Any opponent just has to get behind you to win.

With that in mind, if you want to run multi-shuttles, I'd trade some of the upgrades around. The Reaper is fine, but put Vader on the ship that only gets one pass anyway. Then give the Upsilon a way to turn around.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...0Logistics&obs=

I feel like you want A Real Ship in place of the Lambda here, though.

Yeah, I just feel like being an rear end in a top hat and flying a list that consists of three personnel transports. I like some of the ideas here.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





TheCenturion posted:

Yeah, I just feel like being an rear end in a top hat and flying a list that consists of three personnel transports. I like some of the ideas here.

I wish I could run all four Imperial shuttles, TBH. Lambda, Upsilon, Reaper, and TIE Bomber/Shuttle.

Technically they all fit in a list, but you have like 10 points for upgrades and crew, and all the good imperial crew is expensive. :(

TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS

ConfusedUs posted:

I wish I could run all four Imperial shuttles, TBH. Lambda, Upsilon, Reaper, and TIE Bomber/Shuttle.

Technically they all fit in a list, but you have like 10 points for upgrades and crew, and all the good imperial crew is expensive. :(

Hmmm. What if you swap out the lambda for a TIE bomber/shuttle?

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

What's a poonapple and does it have rules in 2.0?

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





TheCenturion posted:

Hmmm. What if you swap out the lambda for a TIE bomber/shuttle?

I feel like you'd be missing the big gun.

Turns out that support ships on their own aren't great!

TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS

ConfusedUs posted:

I feel like you'd be missing the big gun.

Turns out that support ships on their own aren't great!

Yeah, I know.

Ok, I'll go back to an older list I've been working on:
"Omega Ace" (20)
Push the Limit (3)
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)

Major Vynder (26)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Tractor Beam (1)
Linked Battery (2)
Advanced SLAM (2)
XG-1 Assault Configuration (1)

Test Pilot "Blackout" (31)
Push the Limit (3)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
First Order Vanguard (2)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

AndyElusive posted:

What's a poonapple and does it have rules in 2.0?

The Poonapple has the best dial in the game.

Poonapple is so OP!

Nerf the Poonapple!

Serioulsy, what the gently caress is a Poonapple?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
[b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]
If I had to guess, I'd assume it's assault gunboats with harpoons, because they look kinda like pineapples if you squint while drunk. And with a head injury.

Rhjamiz
Oct 28, 2007

bunnyofdoom posted:

If I had to guess, I'd assume it's assault gunboats with harpoons, because they look kinda like pineapples if you squint while drunk. And with a head injury.

I would have guessed A-wings.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
The fact that no one knows what it means but it was just dropped into the conversation as if everyone would obviously know what it is pretty much sums up X-Wing 'slang' to me.

TremorX
Jan 19, 2001

All Hail Big Hairy Mike

Yo how good is DirkMcGurk w/SBDF triple against this poonapple, tia

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
I do like running quad Fred Savages equipped with HateMail in the Carfax formation. So much better then PoonApples.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
[b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]
Man, I love slamming down my Vin Diesal on the table, with Idi Adin's upgrades on it, it now is so much better that I wanna make it into discworld australia.


(Yes, try to decode this actual real poo poo I babble about)

Cobbsprite
May 6, 2012

Threatening stuffed animals for fun and profit.
Nah son, that poo poo be wrecked by the Vater McGoots tanto list I've been practicing for Worlds.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004
I really hope Johnny Utah paradigm shift is still meta going into 2.0. It is really the only thing that can handle Bob Uecker loaded with Dirk Hardpeck.

side note - I want to dick punch people that call The Inquisitor "Inky."

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

I hear its amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hari Kiri Rock.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

uncle blog posted:

Sicne both Saw and Wullf refer to the window «when attacking», are you allowed first roll your dice, take damage with Saw and then roll an additional dice?

No. The 'assemble correct number of dice' step has long since passed by the time you use Saw.

But Saw on Wulff is still not dumb because it means you can get him down to hull quickly even if people choose not to shoot him.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004
I plan on taking the 3 fingered Cul de sac to a tournament this weekend:

Miranda Doni (47)
-Guidance Chips
-Bomblet
-C-3PO
-Harpoon
-Extra Munitions
-TLT

Saw Guerrara (27)
-Title
-Wired
-Thrust Corrector
-Renegade Refit
-Inspiring recruit
-Hera

Ezra Bridger (26)
-Snap Shot
-Gunner
-R3-A2

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

lazerus06 posted:

I plan on taking the 3 fingered Cul de sac to a tournament this weekend:

Miranda Doni (47)
-Guidance Chips
-Bomblet
-C-3PO
-Harpoon
-Extra Munitions
-TLT

Saw Guerrara (27)
-Title
-Wired
-Thrust Corrector
-Renegade Refit
-Inspiring recruit
-Hera

Ezra Bridger (26)
-Snap Shot
-Gunner
-R3-A2

Call it Inky, Chirpy, and Oopsie, just to confuse people who use that loving terms. Or just call it the PoonApple, because that can be anything you want it to be.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

enigmahfc posted:

Call it Inky, Chirpy, and Oopsie

Don't forget Clyde. He was always the most stupid of all the Pacman ghosts.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

AndyElusive posted:

Don't forget Clyde. He was always the most stupid of all the Pacman ghosts.

The Reaper is Clyde now (Reaper = Death = Dead = Ghost = Clyde).

RTM
May 21, 2001

hewwo!
I took this jank to a local store championship last weekend:

Wullffwarro (30)
Rage (1)
Inspiring Recruit (1)
Finn (5)
Hull Upgrade (3)

AP-5 (15)
Inspiring Recruit (1)
R2 Astromech (1)

"Chopper" (37)
Fire-Control System (2)
Hera Syndulla (1)
BoShek (2)
Tactical Jammer (1)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

I ended up somewhere in the middle of the pack with a 2-2 record. I feel like my losses were mostly due to poor flying, although I got lucky by never playing any of the half-dozen lists with Miranda and/or Nym. Wulf+Rage+Finn is hilariously fun. Reliably chucking 5 fully-modded dice (6 at range 1!) is just straight up good times, and AP-5 can coordinate a Reinforce for extra beefiness or a Rage if you think you will bump. 2x Inspiring recruit means you can do it all again next round.

Chopper activated exactly 2 times and was not worth the points. BoShek was a fun gimmick but ultimately didn't do much. I'd swap him for Rey if I could go back in time. I'm honestly not convinced the Ghost was the best ship to complement Wulf + AP-5, but I ran out of time to come up with something better. It did tend to draw a lot of attention, which was nice for keeping the other ships alive longer.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Lothal Rebel + Hera + Saw + FCS is a beast, and would have kicked rear end in that list.

Funzo
Dec 6, 2002



I'm working up a list for Gen Con, and I've decided I want to fly Lone Wolf Dash with Rey crew. What do I pair it with? The obvious answer is probably Miranda, but with this being the Summer of Jank, I'm also thinking of using a pair of T-65s with Renegade refit/servo S-foils/Flight-assist astromech/integrated astromech. The other, possibly dumber option is a pair of TLT Y-wings. Any thoughts?

Secret Machine
Jun 20, 2005

What the Hell?

Funzo posted:

I'm working up a list for Gen Con, and I've decided I want to fly Lone Wolf Dash with Rey crew. What do I pair it with? The obvious answer is probably Miranda, but with this being the Summer of Jank, I'm also thinking of using a pair of T-65s with Renegade refit/servo S-foils/Flight-assist astromech/integrated astromech. The other, possibly dumber option is a pair of TLT Y-wings. Any thoughts?

The T-65s sound like more fun. They can be great blockers that will still punish anyone that focuses on Dash.

2.0 Rule book got leaked.

https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/6c/ed/6ced3492-42fb-43c9-b542-0528cd19cff9/swz01_rulebookweb.pdf

That's interesting that you can measure every ship with your range tool before declaring a TL.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Funzo posted:

I'm working up a list for Gen Con, and I've decided I want to fly Lone Wolf Dash with Rey crew. What do I pair it with? The obvious answer is probably Miranda, but with this being the Summer of Jank, I'm also thinking of using a pair of T-65s with Renegade refit/servo S-foils/Flight-assist astromech/integrated astromech. The other, possibly dumber option is a pair of TLT Y-wings. Any thoughts?

Miranda or regen Poe is probably best, but Nym is also good.

If you want to go jank put 2 U-Wings in. The large bases and maneuverability for blocking will probably keep Dash's donut very clear.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Secret Machine posted:

The T-65s sound like more fun. They can be great blockers that will still punish anyone that focuses on Dash.

2.0 Rule book got leaked.

https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/6c/ed/6ced3492-42fb-43c9-b542-0528cd19cff9/swz01_rulebookweb.pdf

That's interesting that you can measure every ship with your range tool before declaring a TL.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/7/11/the-space-battles-begin/
Not so much leaked as announced.

But don't despair there's still an online rules reference to come.

Funzo
Dec 6, 2002



The stuff they're giving away for the launch tournament is actually better then I was expecting. Should be a fun time.
They've also announced that everyone in the launch tournament will get tickets enabling the purchase of 2.0 stuff at Gen Con. Still have to stand in line, but at least I know I can get stuff if I want it.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Escalation rules sound really great. Sounds like an actually good viable format besides the standard 200pt dogfight

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Secret Machine posted:

The T-65s sound like more fun. They can be great blockers that will still punish anyone that focuses on Dash.

2.0 Rule book got leaked.

https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/6c/ed/6ced3492-42fb-43c9-b542-0528cd19cff9/swz01_rulebookweb.pdf

That's interesting that you can measure every ship with your range tool before declaring a TL.

Oooooo this is smart:

There is no longer any difference between "unique" and "limited" cards. They're all called "limited" cards. And you can have as many limited cards of the same name as their are dots.

Like Luke Skywalker has one dot. You can only have one Luke Skywalker card of any kind.

I don't think there are any two- or three-dot Limiteds yet, but there's some cool design space there.

Edit: Like Mindlink, if it exists, could be a two-dot or three-dot Limited

ConfusedUs fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jul 11, 2018

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

ConfusedUs posted:

Oooooo this is smart:

There is no longer any difference between "unique" and "limited" cards. They're all called "limited" cards. And you can have as many limited cards of the same name as their are dots.

Like Luke Skywalker has one dot. You can only have one Luke Skywalker card of any kind.

I don't think there are any two- or three-dot Limiteds yet, but there's some cool design space there.

That is neat. Should have done that years ago for things like the generic Wookie liberators or TLTs!

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banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Funzo posted:

I'm working up a list for Gen Con, and I've decided I want to fly Lone Wolf Dash with Rey crew. What do I pair it with? The obvious answer is probably Miranda, but with this being the Summer of Jank, I'm also thinking of using a pair of T-65s with Renegade refit/servo S-foils/Flight-assist astromech/integrated astromech. The other, possibly dumber option is a pair of TLT Y-wings. Any thoughts?

There's a lot of aces with krennic and palp and poo poo out there as well as people doing the 4-5 xwing type lists so you're best bet is prob bomb miranda. But...that's not really jank

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