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I picked up a mission to chase a thief. I took their HP down to 5% and stopped - if you blow the ship up, the mission fails. I didn't know what to do so I followed them to a nearby station, where they docked, so I landed to grace their captain with a lecture on personal responsibility He must've taken it to heart. I took another potshot at them while they were docked and they immediately surrendered their spaceship  It lifted off the pad just enough to squeeze my spacesuit underneath - mine now  Sadly it never dropped the cargo so I had to abandon the mission
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I wish the comms function actually did something in the game. You can't ever force someone to surrender etc.
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Dec 10, 2018 14:21
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FrickenMoron posted:I wish the comms function actually did something in the game. You can't ever force someone to surrender etc. An extension on this, I wish when a trader called out for help from pirates you could answer the call. Agreeing to help will turn the pirate hostile on you.
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Dec 10, 2018 15:00
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Show me your wares, please!
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Dec 10, 2018 15:28
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Captain Ronel Jerigan has had enough of your poo poo, judging by his body language.
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Dec 10, 2018 15:33
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I guess in X rebirth i cant command my freighter easily from the map to buy/sell wares eh? That's one of the huge improvements in X4.
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Dec 10, 2018 16:00
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Pro tip don't have ships docked on a dock and then move that dock around in the builder, RIP. I had the ~~~X-SENSE~~~ to save before committing to that
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:Awesome, thanks, appreciate the tip. Check the left menu on the map, under 'missions'. They'll pop up there as you 'collect' them from stations. I ended up inside the station model for one of the Teladi trading stations. Quite a lot of empty space inside. Bounced around for a while before reloading a save. Very nearly ended up landing on the underside of the platform, but the elevator blocked it. Egosoft, might I suggest a hole in the geometry with a normalised sign to read 'exit', just in case, TIA? Or a sign that says 'you've had an out of geometry experience'.
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Dec 10, 2018 16:23
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"Mind the gap........seriously there's holes in the geometry on the station" Does the station announcer even still say Mind the gap? If so it's never been more appropriate to the series. I've been stuck so many times.
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FrickenMoron posted:You cant get it back up. It's broken atm. Right, I'll recommend a couple of mods straight off; There's a mod for a fusion reactor plant - get this, or the only fusion reactors will come from you jacking Plutarch ships. There's an optional one for hull plates too, but that's more a crisis you can avoid later. The reactors is a specific bar. You're relatively safe from individual fighters and drones, but swarms will gently caress you up. I personally ignore drones as a weapons system because they're poo poo. Most of the early game-breaking bugs that caused me to rage quit the game originally are gone, so you'll see reference to buying _exactly_ 100 energy cells to Lonely Giant. One of the earliest bugs is any other amount would render the mission broken. Add to that the one where the freighters would just stop doing anything, and the one that caused the economy to collapse early, along with Yisha's constant stream of drivel and I left it well alone until after the DLCs were released. The cops are super-aggressive around the stations, so dump poo poo that you don't need. Hav fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Dec 10, 2018 |
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Hav posted:Check the left menu on the map, under 'missions'. They'll pop up there as you 'collect' them from stations. If you don't already have an NPC pilot on the ship, keep a spare crew around to promote to pilot. The AI still doesn't pathfind all that well, so Egosoft allows them to bounce against an object a couple of times then slowly move through it. M class ships are particularly prone to this while docking. If you find yourself stuck, get up and let your pilot take over, give a move command, and watch them slowly phase you through solid matter to freedom!
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NeurosisHead posted:If you don't already have an NPC pilot on the ship, keep a spare crew around to promote to pilot. The AI still doesn't pathfind all that well, so Egosoft allows them to bounce against an object a couple of times then slowly move through it. M class ships are particularly prone to this while docking. If you find yourself stuck, get up and let your pilot take over, give a move command, and watch them slowly phase you through solid matter to freedom! I took over from my pilot after watching her bump aimlessly through the geometry, so they might have introduced something that allowed for travel through normals. I should have perhaps given her another fifteen minutes, but I had an empire to run. Which is fun, I'm sitting on a couple of million credits and we can't run to a passenger seat in a 3-crew light fighter. I've gained a newfound love for what they're trying to do with the map. The lists are the prices for the stations bounded by a box in the same invisible color as the satellite radii, and you can click on items to filter them, but hovering shows you the station and the counts they're looking for. After queuing up a series of trades and having them come off _flawlessly_ was really nice. Managing staff is still very painful, though.
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Darkhold posted:"Mind the gap........seriously there's holes in the geometry on the station" Honestly, I don't know if anyone picked up Susie or not. The station flavor announcements should make a comeback. Egosoft, let us patch those and adverts in. Make it Steam integrated.
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Dec 10, 2018 16:42
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Playing Rebirth it seems to have a lot more "personality" to it but the management of your freighters is a huge pain in the rear end! Also still baffled by the graphical downgrades. I guess you can't ever turn the Albion Skunk into a supership like you could with your X1 Xperimental craft? Gotta rely on fighter escort then for battles?
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FrickenMoron posted:Playing Rebirth it seems to have a lot more "personality" to it but the management of your freighters is a huge pain in the rear end! Also still baffled by the graphical downgrades. I guess you can't ever turn the Albion Skunk into a supership like you could with your X1 Xperimental craft? Gotta rely on fighter escort then for battles? Sort of. Weapons don't change. It's Mk1 all the way AFAIK. There's some engine and shield variants, engines can boost travel mode, normal speed or the strafe, but throw on a couple of strong shields and the mk3 sidewinder engines and you're a helicopter of death. Fighters are basically popcorn in Rebirth. They're lovely to fight and use. In fact, in the original base you couldn't even build them. I think Drones were supposed to take the place of fighters and everything moved up a size scale, so your viable platforms are the various capitals. It's explained more in the 'plot'. If you get stuck/annoyed, I put some details earlier in the thread for cheating in huge amounts of cash.
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Hav posted:Sort of. Weapons don't change. It's Mk1 all the way AFAIK. There's some engine and shield variants, engines can boost travel mode, normal speed or the strafe, but throw on a couple of strong shields and the mk3 sidewinder engines and you're a helicopter of death. There's a couple of Mk.2s available late in the main plot and they all get unlocked after you finish the plot. The expansions add some Mk.3s as well.
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Dec 10, 2018 16:59
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I have eight brand new mining vessels that I deployed last night before bed they are all sitting in the same mineral field, full of nividium, doing nothing
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3 posted:There's a couple of Mk.2s available late in the main plot and they all get unlocked after you finish the plot. The expansions add some Mk.3s as well. Thanks, I didn't get that far in the later playthrough before X arrived.
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Dec 10, 2018 17:03
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sandoz posted:I have eight brand new mining vessels that I deployed last night before bed Nividium isn't used in anything, so once you fill the storage of every station that buys it you can't sell anymore.
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Didnt trade stations in x3 periodically consume their stock just for these cases? Seems pretty badly thought out to have Nvidium in the game but have nothing use it. I also want to know if you can still take over xenon ships?
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FrickenMoron posted:Didnt trade stations in x3 periodically consume their stock just for these cases? Seems pretty badly thought out to have Nvidium in the game but have nothing use it. I've seen guild missions ask you to board them so I assume yeah.
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Really enjoying Rebirth so far I have to admit. The scope of course is much smaller than X4 but theres actually combat going on and the cap ships are large and explode satisfyingly. I have no idea why they went so many steps backwards regarding the tech side. Haven't run into any bugs/crashes either yet.   In X4 the capships just kinda poof and leave behind the damaged model. FrickenMoron fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Dec 10, 2018 |
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Dec 10, 2018 21:12
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pixaal posted:Nividium isn't used in anything, so once you fill the storage of every station that buys it you can't sell anymore. You can hack storage terminals with slicers to try and puke the Nvidia out (and then hoover it up and resell it to them), or if your standing is good enough to take the hit, bring in the 5 gun Paranid corvette and take down the storage tanks. Another thing on my list to check is whether you can piss off the factions and yet still have their traders come and buy your things like you could before. Thom12255 posted:I've seen guild missions ask you to board them so I assume yeah. I've seen no one even claim to have legit taken a Xenon fighter, and the capitals all say impossible to board regardless of number of Marines.
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Rebirth is a quite good shooty space game, but X4 is a lot more like X3 than Rebirth is.
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FrickenMoron posted:Really enjoying Rebirth so far I have to admit. The scope of course is much smaller than X4 but theres actually combat going on and the cap ships are large and explode satisfyingly. I have no idea why they went so many steps backwards regarding the tech side. I actually dislike that the wreckage sits around, because eventually the cap ship beacons get a bit bumpy. FrickenMoron posted:Haven't run into any bugs/crashes either yet. They had enough time to fix them in the meantime. Every X game -1 is way more stable than the current release. patch 1.31 was released.
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Also X:R took like 3 years to get into a decently playable state. It's actually a decent game now, but it was way worse than X:4 on release. I think graphically X4 is actually better, but X:R's smaller focus lent itself better to really stunning set pieces, while with X:4 partially due to the backlash they tried to keep it closer to X3's style, which in most ways is great, but loses a bit of the pizazz. Edit: Also if you're going to play X:R do yourself a favor and get the mods that remove the need for small talk to see the skills of potential employees and the one that lets you just buy trade agents rather than having to smalltalk to get them. (I actually liked the small talk like the first time I heard each conversation because it was a nice way to give life to the world but then you hear it over and over and over and have to wait to get basic stuff and holy poo poo) I do feel like story missions is another place where they threw the baby out with the bathwater from X:R, but I think in the modern age you can't get away with the super German devs doing their own voice over stuff nearly as much as you could back in the day. I do wish there were more X3:TC style mini-stories though. Gorelab fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Dec 10, 2018 |
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X4 has significant technical improvements to its graphics but does not have quite as strong art direction as Rebirth does.
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Dec 10, 2018 21:28
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Goddamn, I seem to be able to get 2-3 gates down the highway and the game locks up
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sandoz posted:I have eight brand new mining vessels that I deployed last night before bed You need to put a satellite by the teladi trading station in Ianamus Zura, that's where all my nividium miners go to sell.
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Patch is coming for ship building slowly dying: https://steamcommunity.com/app/392160/discussions/0/1744479698812179158/#c1744479698812287374
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TjyvTompa posted:You need to put a satellite by the teladi trading station in Ianamus Zura, that's where all my nividium miners go to sell. It's really helpful here to get a sweep of the whole galaxy and place satellites around every trade station that exists. You can squeeze several 10s of millions of credits out of them in pretty short order, but it will still dry up and leave your miners stranded and confused like he described. At that point I switch them to mine everything except nividium, but I think the economy as a whole will still stall out if nobody is sinking wares into building ships. I guess you can create demand by building your own war fleet, but there's nobody to play with unless you turn on somebody.
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OwlFancier posted:X4 has significant technical improvements to its graphics but does not have quite as strong art direction as Rebirth does. Yeah. X:Rebirth is probably the more complete game right this second but I just can't go back to it with all the improvements in X:4.
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I got to the point where you have to scan poo poo with the hacker drones in the "story" mode of X Rebirth and almost ragequit. I was chased by a carrier AND a destroyer + squadrons. But I decided to hide in a crevice of a station and have them shoot it until the station turned hostile and obliterated both ships and escorts. 
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FrickenMoron posted:I got to the point where you have to scan poo poo with the hacker drones in the "story" mode of X Rebirth and almost ragequit. I was chased by a carrier AND a destroyer + squadrons. But I decided to hide in a crevice of a station and have them shoot it until the station turned hostile and obliterated both ships and escorts. I did the same. An inevitable consequence of wanting a lively universe.
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Aw yeah, and if we're making space for reminiscing about the other games, I fired up foobar2000 for the first time in years and the first song on the library in front of me was a song from Boron space in X3, and I'm high, so namaste
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Update video from Egosoft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hRC4pBl7qM !.32 beta is up. Removed ability to assign trading/mining ships to invalid tasks and commanders. Fixed factions not building new ships. Fixed highway destinations not being displayed in target monitor. Fixed guild missions not correctly restarting if a mission was failed or aborted. Fixed player-owned ships formerly belonging to pirates sometimes attacking the player. Fixed getting stuck in trader areas on the Teladi trade station. Fixed being able to save game while Game Over is displayed. Fixed occasional menu crash when changing crew at a shipyard/wharf/equipment dock. Fixed Load Game menu breaking when trying to load an empty savegame slot. Fixed Confirm/Cancel buttons sometimes missing in ship or station configuration menus. Fixed top menu arrow not showing in Chinese/Korean localisations. Fixed another cause of rare crashes. That player owned pirate one seems awesome.
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Fixed being able to save game while Game Over is displayed. Wew imagine missing the quick load key on that one
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Reddit people reporting shipyards are working right and that the war is starting up again in their games. New dev video discussing future plans for X4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hRC4pBl7qM Aiming for 1.5 before Christmas, 2.0 by February.
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