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muscles like this! posted:20 year anniversary has me thinking about The Matrix and how the characters of Switch and Apoc basically just exist to get killed. I can't speak for Apoc, but Switch was originally going to be sort-of-trans, in that she was going to be a woman in the real world, as she actually is, but her 'digital image' (or whatever it's called) in The Matrix was going to be a man, as a sort of 'glitch.' The implications with that idea and the Wachowski's bring trans themselves are pretty interesting, though being cis-scum myself I'm hardly qualified to comment.
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Most secondary characters only exist to die or push the storyline forward for the main protagonists. I always thought Switch was cool. She had the best last words.
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Apr 2, 2019 03:51
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I preferred Mouse's last words "Aarrrrrrghhghhhghhgaghgofoeaijfeoijjjuhh....."
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Apr 2, 2019 04:12
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He should have captioned it, "Please, no meat touching, ma'am!" It'd have been funnier.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Most secondary characters only exist to die or push the storyline forward for the main protagonists. Every once in a while me and a friend will look at each other and one of us will shake their heads sadly and say “not like this!” Switch deserved the Oscar.
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My favorite bit from the secondary parts in The Matrix is when Tank kills Cypher he does that thing where he spits at him disgustedly. "Pooah!" Apparently the actor who played Tank got a big head after the movie became such a monster hit and demanded ridiculous money for the sequels. The studio was just like nah, and easily replaced him lol
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Apr 2, 2019 15:50
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Why does Tank even do the joke airline passenger speech when he's never been on an airplane in his life.
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Mu Zeta posted:Why does Tank even do the joke airline passenger speech when he's never been on an airplane in his life. Well, he's probably experienced it indirectly through the Matrix.
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That Italian Guy posted:Well, he's probably experienced it indirectly through the Matrix. Tank's one of the people born outside the Matrix.
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Apr 2, 2019 15:59
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I guess he could have watched movies and stuff through the Matrix code.
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He's also surrounded by people who lived most of their life in the matrix.
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Apr 2, 2019 16:05
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Mu Zeta posted:Why does Tank even do the joke airline passenger speech when he's never been on an airplane in his life. The Matrix isn't a very god film.
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Mu Zeta posted:Why does Tank even do the joke airline passenger speech when he's never been on an airplane in his life. I have to wonder if everyone else there is sick of that fuckin' joke. Like, 'Ugh, God drat it, we unplugged another person from The Matrix, Tank is going to make that same tired-rear end, cliched joke...again...sure is funnier the twentieth time!"
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Apr 2, 2019 16:56
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How many times has Cypher done the Wizard of Oz joke. That's the real reason why Tank wants him to burn in hell.
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Sunswipe posted:The Matrix isn't a very god film. Yeah, it’s a Jesus movie.
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Mu Zeta posted:Why does Tank even do the joke airline passenger speech when he's never been on an airplane in his life. In Lord of the Rings, one of the Uruks says "looks like meat's back on the menu, boys", thereby implying this bloodthirsty killing machine bred from dark magic is aware of what a menu is
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Mu Zeta posted:Why does Tank even do the joke airline passenger speech when he's never been on an airplane in his life. I'm flipping through the script and Tank does a few different pop culture references that he's never personally experienced: Tank, page 46 posted:Hey, Mikey, he likes it! Ready for more? Tank, page 62 posted:Here you go, buddy. Breakfast of champions. Tank, page 64 posted:All right, everyone please observe that the no smoking and fasten seat belt signs have been turned on. Sit back and enjoy your flight.
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Nth Doctor posted:I'm flipping through the script and Tank does a few different pop culture references that he's never personally experienced: This pretty much just means he's the Matrix equivalent of a memelord
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muscles like this! posted:20 year anniversary has me thinking about The Matrix and how the characters of Switch and Apoc basically just exist to get killed. FreudianSlippers posted:We all do, dude. It's too bad they didn't live. But then again, who does?
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Gargamel Gibson posted:It's too bad they didn't live. But then again, who does? Jesus.
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You can't really know someone until you fight them
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Evilreaver posted:In Lord of the Rings, one of the Uruks says "looks like meat's back on the menu, boys", thereby implying this bloodthirsty killing machine bred from dark magic is aware of what a menu is
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Evilreaver posted:In Lord of the Rings, one of the Uruks says "looks like meat's back on the menu, boys", thereby implying this bloodthirsty killing machine bred from dark magic is aware of what a menu is These are Saruman's orcs, do you really think he's the type of guy who wouldn't put his orcs in suits and make them pretend to be waiters.
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Apr 2, 2019 19:24
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My iimm with the Matrix movies is that the first one has really good cinematography and tons of cool shots with interesting perspectives that make the whole thing look like a moody comic book and the second two are shot like an AI trained on Michael Bay did edited them.
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Evilreaver posted:In Lord of the Rings, one of the Uruks says "looks like meat's back on the menu, boys", thereby implying this bloodthirsty killing machine bred from dark magic is aware of what a menu is The Hobbits were so surprised that beer came in pints in a tavern which implies an organized system of food delivery in a market economy and I didn't see any singing waiters so...menus. Aren't Uruk's half man/half orcs or something? Maybe their human side still harbors faint memories of a Caribou Coffee in Minas Tirith.
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Being a Hobbit is probably pretty cost effective if you live among humans because a small cheap portion for humans is huge for you so you get far more bang for your buck.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Being a Hobbit is probably pretty cost effective if you live among humans because a small cheap portion for humans is huge for you so you get far more bang for your buck. Hobbits eat less, but they eat more often. Your cost savings are a wash.
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^^^holy poo pooFreudianSlippers posted:Being a Hobbit is probably pretty cost effective if you live among humans because a small cheap portion for humans is huge for you so you get far more bang for your buck. Judging from the number of meals they eat it probably ends up a wash.
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Evilreaver posted:In Lord of the Rings, one of the Uruks says "looks like meat's back on the menu, boys", thereby implying this bloodthirsty killing machine bred from dark magic is aware of what a menu is Don't forget, Han Solo believes in hell. Van Dis posted:My iimm with the Matrix movies is that the first one has really good cinematography and tons of cool shots with interesting perspectives that make the whole thing look like a moody comic book and the second two are shot like an AI trained on Michael Bay did edited them. Well they did have comic artists do the storyboards for the original.  says they never expected to do sequels, but they did all this prep work to make the first one feel special. The first movie definitely is written in a way for it to be self-contained, albeit with a slightly open ending.
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Hobbits would have a base 20 number system and everyone would hate them.
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The manga/anime Hunter X Hunter takes place on a wacky fantasy world, but at one point a character explicitly references Judas selling out Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.
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Dr Christmas posted:The manga/anime Hunter X Hunter takes place on a wacky fantasy world, but at one point a character explicitly references Judas selling out Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. I prefer my anecdotes to be fake. quote:Gozer the Traveler. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!
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Dr Christmas posted:The manga/anime Hunter X Hunter takes place on a wacky fantasy world, but at one point a character explicitly references Judas selling out Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. If you're going to go crazy, go all the way https://twitter.com/HeroKingHelix/status/935277711601389568
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Kramdar posted:Don't forget, Han Solo believes in hell. Extremely not necessarily at all I guess someone does or did for him to have the expression, though. "Place of ultimate suffering" isn't a particularly deep idea for a culture to develop
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Samuringa posted:If you're going to go crazy, go all the way The fun thing is that I think I've heard that battling tops as toys may go back to ancient Egypt.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The fun thing is that I think I've heard that [game] may go back to ancient Egypt. That was the original gimmick for Yugioh before the Magic the Gathering parody took over.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The fun thing is that I think I've heard that battling tops as toys may go back to ancient Egypt. Little known facts about dreidels...
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Aleph Null posted:I prefer my anecdotes to be fake. On the Ghostbusters quote, I think something that helps those fake anecdotes is that it uses very evocative language - like a "Large and moving Torg" implying that a Torg wouldn't normally move, calling into question exactly what a Torg is. The fact that it moving is notable is what captures the imagination of the viewer. It also brings to mind the idea that Gozer the Traveller can't be tricked - maybe they came up with a Torg intending for it to cement Gozer in place and neutralise him like convincing a shapeshifter to turn into acid so he can't reconstitute, but "Oh poo poo, the Torg is coming after us that shouldn't be HAPPENING!  "Even calling him Gozer the Traveller says something, he's not called the Destroyer. Maybe destruction is ancilliary, just something that happens due to his volatile nature. Certainly the demigod explaining the rules implies he intends to destroy, but what if she's wrong about that, and the reason for choosing his form is to choose something that he can comfortably exist in. Hundreds of millions of years of people loving up by imagining something too big to comfortably move, when he just wants to visit, because a goddess keeps explaining the rules wrong. BioEnchanted has a new favorite as of 09:54 on Apr 3, 2019 |
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The lady was Gozer
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Byzantine posted:That was the original gimmick for Yugioh before the Magic the Gathering parody took over. Even after the card game took over that was still the plot. They have the guy who created the card game say that he was in Egypt when he saw stone tablets with monsters carved into them and that inspired the game. Then they reveal that the stone tablets actually summoned monsters.
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