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ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

HookShot posted:

Except that he specifically posted that a tsunami isn't what Vancouver will have to worry about. Sure, a lot of poo poo will get levelled, but it would have to be insanely unlucky for a tsunami to go around the island, up the straight and head down the Fraser river.

I wouldn't want to be in Richmond when it happened either way.

It is correct that a typical tsunami would likely not cause a 20 meter wave to sweep the GVRD. But if the land sinks and shifts to the left to that degree, all that water in the straight isn't exactly attached to the plate and will definitely do a thing to the low lying areas.

ocrumsprug fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jun 27, 2019

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Claes Oldenburger
Apr 23, 2010

Metal magician!
:black101:

HookShot posted:

Except that he specifically posted that a tsunami isn't what Vancouver will have to worry about. Sure, a lot of poo poo will get levelled, but it would have to be insanely unlucky for a tsunami to go around the island, up the straight and head down the Fraser river.

Ugh yeah, read that wrong. Yes, a Tsunami is not what the GVRD has to worry about. It'll be lovely for a ton of reasons but not from a large wave.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
The major issue will be loss of services - liquifaction isnt going to cause houses to be swapped up, it will cause gas lines and other utilities to break.

Rooted Vegetable
Jun 1, 2002
No avocado toast without electricity for the toaster, gas for the baker's ovens and fuel for the plane bringing the avocados

incontinence 100
Dec 21, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Hopefully Alexa Loo will be swallowed up by a sinkhole.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
Basically we will be hosed in every way except tsunamis LOL

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

I am fully prepared to eat the rich. :discourse:

Rooted Vegetable
Jun 1, 2002

McGavin posted:

I am fully prepared to eat the rich. :discourse:

Trust you like them raw. That or you'll have to start a fire from a Tesla battery

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


McGavin posted:

I am fully prepared to eat the rich. :discourse:

Spoiler alert: they don't actually live here

Purgatory Glory
Feb 20, 2005

qhat posted:

Spoiler alert: they don't actually live here

Ok, eat the rich's children.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Purgatory Glory posted:

Ok, eat the rich's children.

Even better. Since they've never worked a day in their life they're more tender. :discourse:

incontinence 100
Dec 21, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
How are you going to deter future generations if you don't leave their corpses hanging from an over pass?

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Please, we aren't animals. The corpses will be sustainably composted with other organic waste.

McGavin fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jun 29, 2019

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


I heard you can fry meat on the hood of a Lamborghini

incontinence 100
Dec 21, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

qhat posted:

I heard you can fry meat on the hood of a Lamborghini

That's v Fury Road. I like it.

Guigui
Jan 19, 2010
Winner of January '10 Lux Aeterna "Best 2010 Poster" Award
If such were to happen, would Cultural imperial emerge, and claim the title as the Bullet Farmer from Surrey?

incontinence 100
Dec 21, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Some BC jobs news.

quote:



The province lost 3,700 jobs between May and June while the unemployment rate ticked up from 4.3% to 4.5% during that same period.

While B.C. managed to post a gain of 3,000 part-time positions, those were all offset by the losses of 6,700 full-time jobs.

https://biv.com/article/2019/07/bc-posts-3700-job-losses-june-mostly-full-time-positions

I've been wondering if and when the housing decline would affect employment. Let's see how the rest of the year goes.

Mandibular Fiasco
Oct 14, 2012

incontinence 100 posted:

Some BC jobs news.


https://biv.com/article/2019/07/bc-posts-3700-job-losses-june-mostly-full-time-positions

I've been wondering if and when the housing decline would affect employment. Let's see how the rest of the year goes.

Listening to Michael Campbell earlier this week on CKNW (why the hell I bother, I don't know), he was railing on about how awful the real estate downturn would be for everyone. Typical boomer bullshit - advocating for the continued inflation and sustainment of a toxic bubble that has made BC impossible for families to live and raise kids. And them he went back to pumping gold. What a piece of garbage.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




This was posted in the crappy construction thread:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ontario-family-buys-dream-home-to-find-it-s-infested-with-toxic-mould-1.4486646


quote:

In June 2018, the family of four moved from Grimsby, Ont. to a ranch-style bungalow sitting on 17 acres in the small community of Port Sydney, located just south of Huntsville, Ont.

Austin said the realtor told them the house had been built in 2016 and had never been lived in before.

Within one week of settling into their new home, Austin said both of her daughters, aged three and one at the time, developed fevers. Her eldest daughter was admitted to hospital where she was diagnosed with strep throat.

...

The family hired mould specialists who inspected the home and took samples. They discovered extreme levels of stachybotrys, or toxic black mould, as well as aspergillus, a fungus that can cause disease in people with weakened immune systems, damaged lungs, and allergies, and common penicillium, which can cause allergic reactions in people sensitive to mould, in the home.

They basically deemed our house a tear-down, Austin said. They said that there is no amount of remediation that can be done to fix this home.

...

Shortly after the awful discovery, Austin said they returned to the mould-infested home to talk with the neighbours who told them the construction had been started in 2006 -- not 2016 as they were led to believe.

According to the neighbours, the foundation was poured in 2006 and left exposed to the elements for a number of years before a pre-fabricated modular home was delivered. The home was only partially completed and sat on the property without any siding for several more years.



This is an extreme case, and kinda rural, but I've seen so many new builds in Vancouver in a similar situation. Construction happens in winter, with no rain protection. The old house gets excavated and the hole fills up with water, so they just pump it out and pour foundation anyway without bothering to let it dry. Or the lumber for the house sits in the rain for four months while construction is paused. Or the house is sitting without siding through a winter or two.

I'm not in construction, and may be totally off-base, but basically I'm expecting a whole lot of new build houses in Vancouver to be mould-infested tear-downs like that one. And these are often million dollar+ builds.

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


That also sounds like complete fraudulent advertising. I'd probably be looking at taking legal action against the realtor.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

qhat posted:

That also sounds like complete fraudulent advertising. I'd probably be looking at taking legal action against the realtor.

I believe in an article I saw about this a few days ago they're considering suing the realtor AND the home inspector who signed off on the house being fine.

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
If you are driving through smaller rural towns and notice houses without siding, but are obviously not under construction it is because your house isn't "constructed" until the siding is up. Ergo, you don't pay property taxes on the structure.

2016 was probably the legal constructed year unfortunately.

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


ocrumsprug posted:

If you are driving through smaller rural towns and notice houses without siding, but are obviously not under construction it is because your house isn't "constructed" until the siding is up. Ergo, you don't pay property taxes on the structure.

2016 was probably the legal constructed year unfortunately.

This sounds incredibly slimy. So basically you can put the foundations and some basic structures in, leave them to rot exposed for ten years, and then put up the sidings and claim it's brand new?

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

qhat posted:

This sounds incredibly slimy. So basically you can put the foundations and some basic structures in, leave them to rot exposed for ten years, and then put up the sidings and claim it's brand new?

Brand new probably not. Just constructed this year, probably.

To be fair, this is generally a tax dodge because it is only a recent phenomenon for people to come into a rural community and drop more than 5 figures on a house.

Mandibular Fiasco
Oct 14, 2012
There is a complex at the corner of 160th Street and 32nd Avenue in South Surrey that is high-end (supposedly) townhouses, but this exact phenomena (frames left out to rot over the winter) happened during construction, and they just built on. The places are now selling for almost $2M (at least they were)...and I doubt that the people buying them have any idea how crappy the build quality is.

ARACHTION
Mar 10, 2012

Ive seen all of these phenomena just walking around Vancouver and wondered about what the hell would happen to the house. Naively, I figured there was some kind of modern treated wood that I hadnt heard about.

There was the house in Strathcona that took the cake of being exposed all winter long on stilts with the foundation just a pit filling with water and as mentioned, they pumped it out and began building the same day.

Claes Oldenburger
Apr 23, 2010

Metal magician!
:black101:

Mandibular Fiasco posted:

There is a complex at the corner of 160th Street and 32nd Avenue in South Surrey that is high-end (supposedly) townhouses, but this exact phenomena (frames left out to rot over the winter) happened during construction, and they just built on. The places are now selling for almost $2M (at least they were)...and I doubt that the people buying them have any idea how crappy the build quality is.

That entire area is a wasteland. Poorly built townhouses/ row houses as far as the eye can see.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
Most builds spend some time exposed to the elements, that's just kind of the reality of construction. You can probably get through a Vancouver winter with just house wrap without it being THAT bad.

That Ontario house just looks like a piece of poo poo build in a humid rear end rural area with zero drainage.

Mandibular Fiasco
Oct 14, 2012

leftist heap posted:

Most builds spend some time exposed to the elements, that's just kind of the reality of construction. You can probably get through a Vancouver winter with just house wrap without it being THAT bad.

That Ontario house just looks like a piece of poo poo build in a humid rear end rural area with zero drainage.

Not that winter...everything was saturated, to the point that the ground around it was a muddy swamp. In any event, would you want to pay $2M for something like that? I sure wouldn't.

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

leftist heap posted:

Most builds spend some time exposed to the elements, that's just kind of the reality of construction. You can probably get through a Vancouver winter with just house wrap without it being THAT bad.

Right, it's when you leave it for multiple consecutive years without touching any of the materials. Y'know, like what happened in the story.

incontinence 100
Dec 21, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Have you guys seen construction in Whistler for Rich People's Homes? Many seem to be built with a large tent-like structure over the construction site. Is that just for sheltering the site from snow so that they work all winter?

Mandibular Fiasco
Oct 14, 2012

Claes Oldenburger posted:

That entire area is a wasteland. Poorly built townhouses/ row houses as far as the eye can see.

I grew up in that area, back in the late 70s/early 80s when it was all farming. We had cattle, ducks, geese, and chickens, and there weren't kids for miles. Now even my old elementary school has been levelled for townhouses, and the property development that has gone up in its place is called...wait for it..."Old School". The build quality of virtually everything there is absolute crap, and they want major premiums for it. The whole place will be a disaster area in the long term when they all start to fall apart. My wife and I rented in one of the Morgan Crossing developments...everything about the place was ultra-low-end. We broke a light fixture and easily found its mirror replacement at Home Depot for $30. But there were granite countertops!

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

incontinence 100 posted:

Have you guys seen construction in Whistler for Rich People's Homes? Many seem to be built with a large tent-like structure over the construction site. Is that just for sheltering the site from snow so that they work all winter?

Basically yes, though they often don't work through the winter. They just cover them up until spring. But if you actually left construction here to be covered in (this year at least) multiple meters of snow with absolutely nothing protecting it, you'd be completely hosed in the spring. Like, can you imagine a bunch of plywood that's just been soaked in snow for six months and used as the base to build walls?

For most new builds here they tend to start it as soon as the spring thaw begins and try to get it all done by fall. There's one on my walking route that just got the main frame for the house put up a couple weeks ago. The giant Aquilini monstrosity and the other huge houses that take multiple years to build, yeah, they completely cover them in tarps.

Claes Oldenburger
Apr 23, 2010

Metal magician!
:black101:

Mandibular Fiasco posted:

I grew up in that area, back in the late 70s/early 80s when it was all farming. We had cattle, ducks, geese, and chickens, and there weren't kids for miles. Now even my old elementary school has been levelled for townhouses, and the property development that has gone up in its place is called...wait for it..."Old School". The build quality of virtually everything there is absolute crap, and they want major premiums for it. The whole place will be a disaster area in the long term when they all start to fall apart. My wife and I rented in one of the Morgan Crossing developments...everything about the place was ultra-low-end. We broke a light fixture and easily found its mirror replacement at Home Depot for $30. But there were granite countertops!

I bet you have a very interesting take on the area. I grew up in Ocean Park / Crescent Beach in the 90's / 00's and I could see why people moved out there at that time (like my parents from Van). Not a ton of development yet, but somewhat well thought out communities surrounded by the beach and forests.

We used to drive down 24th and go ride bikes in where Morgan crossing is now, it's really sad to see them level that whole area for the most garbage quality town homes. Every story I hear about the area just makes it more sad. The GF's parents live in a new condo building in that area after downsizing from selling their Delta home at market peak, they seem happy but IMO it was a terrible trade off. They do enjoy going on about "how hard they worked for their money" though, so maybe that makes them happy :iiam:

The one chuckle I get is my brother and his friends ghost drove an older dying MR2 with a rock on the gas pedal into the giant hole that would now become the Walmart, so I like to imagine it's still down there haha.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




leftist heap posted:

Most builds spend some time exposed to the elements, that's just kind of the reality of construction. You can probably get through a Vancouver winter with just house wrap without it being THAT bad.

That Ontario house just looks like a piece of poo poo build in a humid rear end rural area with zero drainage.

The only time I've seen home wrap used in Vancouver has been in the super-rich areas (Point Grey, etc). Everywhere else they just leave everything exposed, sometimes for two winters in a row.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
I'm visiting my parents in ns again and my mom showed me some slides of her childhood in Maple Ridge. She always calls it Haney actually because it was before people got pretentious about it I reckon. Anyways, it's basically pastureland as far as the eye can see, and we're talking the early 60s not immeasurably far back.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


I just looked at Maple Ridge on satellite view because I haven't been there in decades and assumed it was still mostly empty. Yikes.

I remember when my uncle was building a new place in Port Coquitlam and it was just a forest that was freshly clear cut. That was the 80s.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

My dad had the opportunity to buy 60 acres of what is now downtown Richmond for $1,000 per acre.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

McGavin posted:

My dad had the opportunity to buy 60 acres of what is now downtown Richmond for $1,000 per acre.

Sounds like he dodged a bullet.

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HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

cowofwar posted:

Sounds like he dodged a bullet.

No that's Surrey

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