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Casnorf
Jun 14, 2002

Never drive a car when you're a fish
Maccao isn't a raptor and Jaggi's big contribution is that he's superficially similar to a 'drome but is specifically a pack hunter - in earlier games you mostly didn't need to worry other 'prey but in Tri the little Jaggis would take potshots if you were near them. I like that it got expanded and, uh, expanded in World as Jagras will skulk about the edges of a Great Jagras fight but if you end up among them they'll dogpile you.

One of the really neat things about critical analysis is that when you delve any deeper than superficially you often find the things that set the choices that some extremely intelligent and capable people made into motion. Maccao is exactly what he is intended to be and accomplishes that admirably, while Jaggi's focus is on being more aware of the changing nature of your surroundings: moment-to-moment situational awareness rather than just learning the best place to stand. Even the 'dromes are there to teach you about the ranges you are going to have to deal with for the rest of the game - while they're small and don't hit terribly hard they have attacks that can hit from where a much larger monster would.

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Bettik
Jan 28, 2008

Space-age Rock Star
I love MHW a ton - it's my first venture into the MH games and I've been playing it on and off since Steam release, first with the missus and more recently with some friends as well.

Looking forward to this LP hitting the real fights - the early game makes for a good tutorial (and it was very necessary for me to get to grips with how the game worked!) but it's the big monster hunts that are really the draw here. Seeing different weapons from what I've been using (mostly Charge Blade with a bit of hunting horn for grouping) is also a big draw.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Deffo feels like you have more mobility than the past MH games.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all

SSNeoman posted:

Deffo feels like you have more mobility than the past MH games.

From what I understand, there's been quite a lot of 'ease of play' improvements overall. World was designed to be more newbie friendly and help first time players adapt to the environment better. If you really want to see some boosted mobility, wait till we hit the frozen area and I can get some great use out of wedge beetles.

New episode will be up tonight!

Casnorf
Jun 14, 2002

Never drive a car when you're a fish
I miss having to burly flex whenever I drink a potion. My friends can't stand when I shotgun a beer.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all


We go on our first expedition and have a rematch against the Great Jagras with a different sword n' shield. Our attempts to set up some new camps are interrupted by a 'handy' new monster.

Chimera-gui
Mar 20, 2014
When a monster is sleeping is also the ideal time to capture them if you have the trap and tranqs to do so.

And you don't have to specifically kick toads to trigger them, any attack that connects will do it so it is possible to get caught off guard by one cause you triggered it accidentally.

We were hunting the Kulu cause it was loving up the place we're gonna make a camp, not because of any issues it was causing for the forest itself. In fact most early game monsters are hunted for being a nuisance to our work, we won't be getting monsters that are a threat to the environment itself until the end.

It is also possible for either your Palico to kill a monster and as an Insect Glaive user, I've actually had several instances of the monster being killed by my Kinsect.

Chimera-gui fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 8, 2020

Casnorf
Jun 14, 2002

Never drive a car when you're a fish
As far as I know there aren't any forms of damage that won't take a monster to zero except turf wars. This can lead to some very funny situations later in the game.

Doesn't tranqing a monster while it's sleeping and poses no danger feel a little... Unfair? Y'almost gotta wonder who the threat here is.

Chimera-gui
Mar 20, 2014

Casnorf posted:

Doesn't tranqing a monster while it's sleeping and poses no danger feel a little... Unfair? Y'almost gotta wonder who the threat here is.

Oh there are far worst things you can do to a sleeping monster than capturing them alive.

ThingOne
Jul 30, 2011



Would you like some tofu?


What kind of monster goes 4 episodes without petting the poogie? :mad:

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all
The worst kind that ignores it for even longer than that! It doesn't really serve much purpose, so I tend to just walk past usually.

edit: VVV You'd be surprised how often stuff like that happens, but that entrance was pretty entertaining

thiswayliesmadness fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Mar 9, 2020

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

I can't believe these monsters will even photobomb you.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all
Steam has Iceborn on sale till the end of the month! Probably going to snag it myself finally this weekend.

Should have the next episode up in a day or two. Sorry for the delay but my Grandmother passed last week and then work became a whirlwind with the pandemic issues. Finally letting us stay at home now, so going to use this time to get some extra effort in the LP.

thiswayliesmadness fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Mar 20, 2020

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all


It's time to go hunt that Pukei-pukei we saw earlier! Since I promised a new weapon, I switch out the sword and shield for the gun lance, but give a comparative fight in the arena.

Egadsman
Apr 16, 2007

Gunlance is weird, and falls pretty consistently near the bottom of the global weapon use percentages. It's also one of my favorite weapons, so I'm glad to see it get some use.

Dreadwroth2
Feb 28, 2019

by Cyrano4747
I have a maxed out high end gunlance that's really fun to use, I really like it a lot.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

As someone who's Monster Hunter experience consists of MGS Peace Walker the more outlandish weapons were always more fun to see in action, flourishes like the sword/shield air attacks aside.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all
I'm planning on doing 2 episode blocks with each of the weapons to start. Gives a bit to show off the quirks for each one without having me struggle too long with unfamiliar ones. After I've covered them all, I'll switch to my main weapons, but still pull out the odd other weapon for special fights or to show off unique traits.

Gun lance has an interesting learning curve to it. There's a lot to micromanage with it and some of the moves seem rarely useful (aiming directly up with shots). But once you've mastered that, you're capable of putting out a great amount of damage. Next episode shows off some if it's pro's and cons better.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all


A team of scholars requires an escort to follow the trail of Zorah Magdaros into the Wildspire Wastes. We find what we're looking for, but run into some problems from a rampaging headache.

Chimera-gui
Mar 20, 2014
Rathian is the female actually and Glaive user you talked to is the Seeker, Rathalos is the male and we won't be seeing the First Wyverians for a while.

It should also be noted that you can actually lock the Handler's outfit from the item box in your room which is also where you select what outfit you want her to wear if you don't want her running around the desert in the winter festival outfit.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all
I knew I had messed up his title as soon as the recording ended. For as important a character as he seems, we really won't see him that much.

The handler I'll usually leave with whatever default outfits going at the time. If the thread has a favorite they see though, I can certainly change it over!

Egadsman
Apr 16, 2007

Since we're probably done seeing gunlance for a while, let's talk about what it used to be like. (I tried playing some old MH gunlance after the previous episode and want to share my pain.)

It used to be that you could only quick-reload one round at a time. When I started playing MH, the shells weren't even loaded when the quest started. You had to remember to manually load those yourself at the start of every hunt. In the previous game, they added a heat gauge that affected your damage output. Shelling attacks would heat up your weapon, making your regular attacks do more damage the hotter it was. But if you shot too much, it would overheat, drop your damage for a few minutes, and you wouldn't be able to use wyvern's fire at all until it cooled off. That mechanic ultimately didn't do much except add unnecessary complexity to an already-complicated weapon, and I'm glad they didn't carry it forward to World. You also couldn't hop forwards, so if you wanted to close distance quickly, you had to turn around and hop backwards towards the monster. That wasn't an issue specific to gunlance, but for a weapon as slow as this one, getting the ability to do a little hop forwards to reposition in World was a godsend.

For as fiddly and slow as gunlance can be now, it used to be way worse.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all
I'm always amazed to hear the quality of life improvements World made on the series. I would hope for all the extra micromanaging, the gun lance did more damage back then or such. Plus those hops can be so useful for getting in position quickly; Shuffling around constantly had to be a pain.
Neat to hear the changes made to the series, so I encourage any stories on the older games (that don't go into spoilers)!

The LP's having me do a more in depth dive with some of the weapons than I initially gave them. The next weapon I pull out in particular, I started to appreciate a lot more, so you might still see some weapon selections coming back later!

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all


We venture into the Wildspire Wastes to rescue a scholar who got separated from the main group. Corpses and odd spikes litter the area, but we find our scholar cornered by a new aquatic beast.

Chimera-gui
Mar 20, 2014
Oh Glaive is my favorite weapon and I have used it almost exclusively since 4 Ultimate. Partially because it has a design element that is adorable.

I believe the reason Aquatic Mobility was changed to Aquatic/Polar Mobility has to do with Iceborne.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

I really don't like the look of that lance. It doesn't look like a weapon.
Edit: it looks like that opinion is based on it's 'folded' form. It looks better in use.

The Lone Badger fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Apr 1, 2020

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all

Chimera-gui posted:

I believe the reason Aquatic Mobility was changed to Aquatic/Polar Mobility has to do with Iceborne.

Ice hasn't seen some of the Iceborn changes yet so that was his first time seeing that skill. Polar mobility was indeed added to aquatic mobility thanks to the expansion.


The Lone Badger posted:

I really don't like the look of that lance. It doesn't look like a weapon.
Edit: it looks like that opinion is based on it's 'folded' form. It looks better in use.

If you think the 'extendo-lance' looks odd, what till I try out the switch axe!

Egadsman
Apr 16, 2007

I really like how many of the weapons have little animations for going between sheathed, un-sheathed, and various other states. Some of the weapons later on get really extreme with it, and it's great.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all


We're given our first piece of equipment to test out: The ghillie mantle! Journeying into the mid-reaches of The Ancient Forest, we take on an electrical menace.

Chimera-gui
Mar 20, 2014
In addition to advice given in video about checking your farm frequently, it is also a good idea to upgrade the farm as much as possible as early as possible.

Dreadwroth2
Feb 28, 2019

by Cyrano4747
I love the stupid zappy squirrel snake, him and another friend let me make one of my favorite gunlances in the game. Do you have the best poogie outfit?

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all

Dreadwroth2 posted:

Do you have the best poogie outfit?

I haven't done the "basic stuff" to get some of the extra costumes. I'll probably do a side mission episode after we try the 'Capture Zorah' quest, so I'll roll getting them into that one. For those curious which ones Fiona currently has access to:

The Mighty Default


Appreciation Fest


Winter Star Fest

Dreadwroth2
Feb 28, 2019

by Cyrano4747
Party Poogie is really good, but theres another one that I use that's the bessssst.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Great little Great Jagras or Greatest little Great Jagras?

Chimera-gui
Mar 20, 2014

Dreadwroth2 posted:

Party Poogie is really good, but theres another one that I use that's the bessssst.

If it's what I think it is, we will not be seeing that for a while.

ThingOne
Jul 30, 2011



Would you like some tofu?


Yeah a it's kind of a spoiler for a late-game monster.

Dreadwroth2
Feb 28, 2019

by Cyrano4747
Indeed, that's why Im keepin it a delicious secret.

Chimera-gui
Mar 20, 2014

Dreadwroth2 posted:

Indeed, that's why Im keepin it a delicious secret.

That and the costume itself isn't in base World anyway, you need to have Iceborne to get it.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all


With the azure shards we collected last time, Fiona gets tricked out with a new workshop long sword and gets Loki some new gear. Diving into the heart of The Ancient Forest, we confront a fire breathing T-Rex.

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Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

When you mention being careful with the longsword around the team, does that mean you can damage your hunting buddies with swings?

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