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Control's gameplay kinda reminds me a little of Mass Effect 2, and it's fun when you have it figured out. It's not really fun enough to do the random non-story incursions though, which is a problem because it seems like the game has a lot of those. I stopped playing for a while, which can be a problem with a lot of games where you need to figure out a certain groove, and then when I got back to it, there was a big fight I wasn't expecting in the next area, and I kept dying and I don't really know if I need to try playing the less interesting sidequests or maybe my build is bad and I should try to do something about that or whatever. And now I've gotten caught up in other games so it'll be longer before I get back to take Control. Medieval Medic posted:Any recommendations for good detective games? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBOv1Ce6olA There's also Puzzle Agent. Witcher 3 has a fair amount of detective-ing sidequests that you might find interesting, but not a whole lot of branching. Maybe Westerado? LA Noire has a lot of issues, but it's a pretty unique take on a detective story where the player has to solve a mystery but also do a lot of shooting people dead. SlothfulCobra fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Jun 27, 2021 |
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Medieval Medic posted:Any recommendations for good detective games? Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishments
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Sexual Aluminum posted:Or gimme another not cyberpunk open world rpg. Kingdom Come: Deliverance The Witcher 3 Skyrim Fallout: New Vegas
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Hwurmp posted:Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishments This is one of the best adventure games ever made. It has a laser-like focus on exactly what makes Holmes such a fun character, and the things that make the classic stories work.
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What's a game I can play online with my dad and sister? Dad says he doesn't want to play a "farming game" like Terraria and doesn't want to shoot people in an FPS. It would need to be online multiplayer and have crossplay between Mac and PC. I've played a lot of Terraria with my mom and sister and it was a really nice way to hang out since we live in different cities.
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Chamale posted:What's a game I can play online with my dad and sister? Dad says he doesn't want to play a "farming game" like Terraria and doesn't want to shoot people in an FPS. It would need to be online multiplayer and have crossplay between Mac and PC. I've played a lot of Terraria with my mom and sister and it was a really nice way to hang out since we live in different cities. A whole lot of MMOs qualify but I don't know that I'd really recommend any.  Civilization, maybe? Particularly co-op vs. AI. Tabletop Simulator has PC/Mac crossplay and would basically let you do board game night on a computer if that's something you'd all enjoy.
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Medieval Medic posted:Any recommendations for good detective games? Hypnospace Outlaw and A Hand With Many Fingers both have a similar vibe of piecing things together yourself. AHWMF is only like an hour long. The Darkside Detective games are more traditional point and click games.
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Chamale posted:What's a game I can play online with my dad and sister? Dad says he doesn't want to play a "farming game" like Terraria and doesn't want to shoot people in an FPS. It would need to be online multiplayer and have crossplay between Mac and PC. I've played a lot of Terraria with my mom and sister and it was a really nice way to hang out since we live in different cities. OpenTTD a poker game like https://www.pokernow.club/ some multiplayer golf game or other sport game (I don't play 'em so I don't know) Would he be OK driving a vehicle in a shooter game, if so maybe Arma 3.
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Chamale posted:What's a game I can play online with my dad and sister? Dad says he doesn't want to play a "farming game" like Terraria and doesn't want to shoot people in an FPS. It would need to be online multiplayer and have crossplay between Mac and PC. I've played a lot of Terraria with my mom and sister and it was a really nice way to hang out since we live in different cities. There's For the King, which is a beast of digital board game / RPG that fits exactly three players. It's mechanics heavy but I'm getting the vibe you're all gamers.
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Chamale posted:What's a game I can play online with my dad and sister? Dad says he doesn't want to play a "farming game" like Terraria and doesn't want to shoot people in an FPS. It would need to be online multiplayer and have crossplay between Mac and PC. I've played a lot of Terraria with my mom and sister and it was a really nice way to hang out since we live in different cities. Ticket to Ride or Lords of Waterdeep. Both are available on Mac and PC.
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I haven't played new PC games in a long time. Like, really long. There seems to be a new wave of CRPGs and Baldur's Gate + Throne of Baal was one of my favourites way back in the day, but I'm a bit overwhelmed by the options for new games. I'd love to get some kind of ranking of these new-wave CRPRGs, as in, from most to least essential: Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2 Dragon Age series Tides of Numenera Divinity: Original Sin 1 and 2 Pathfinder: Kingmaker Tyranny Solasta: crown of the magister Wasteland 2 remake?? Wasteland 3 Also, feel free to add in a game that you think ought to be in the list that I haven't mentioned. I know about The Witcher and Disco Elysium. Don't like the new Fallouts and generally not super keen on the 3D open-world style games. If you want to write more than just giving a ranking I'd love that, but I'd be happy just to get some guidance like "this game rules, this one kinda sucks".
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nemesis_hub posted:I haven't played new PC games in a long time. Like, really long. There seems to be a new wave of CRPGs and Baldur's Gate + Throne of Baal was one of my favourites way back in the day, but I'm a bit overwhelmed by the options for new games. I'd love to get some kind of ranking of these new-wave CRPRGs, as in, from most to least essential: Personal rankings from best / most interesting to worst / least remarkable: Pillars of Eternity 2 - a true GOAT, if you like a serious story that takes the DnD formula into an early modern era of colonialism and tries to focus on the politics of the setting Underrail - one of my personal favorites, a spiritual successor of the 2D Fallouts, if that's something you are interested in. But very difficult and expects you to study up on character builds. Divinity Original Sin 2 - solely for the combat mechanics, the story takes a back seat Age of Decadence - also not mentioned in your list, but it's an interesting indie game set in a post-apocalyptic medieval-like world with a rich, very branching story Witcher 1 - the only Witcher game I'd consider a CRPG rather than an ARPG, very story heavy, very good despite what people who usually haven't played it like to claim. The sequels are equally good or better, but a different genre, really. Pillars of Eternity 1 - some consider it to have a too generic setting and to be too frontloaded with lore dumps, also mechanically it's rougher around the edges than the sequel Pathfinder: Kingmaker - beware, it expects you to have an encyclopedic knowledge of Pathfinder rules Tyranny - good concept and ideas, kinda basic execution. Pretty much everything about the game sounds great on paper, but ends up being half-baked in practice. But it's short, so it's worth trying for one playthrough. Wasteland 3 - a huge improvement over Wasteland 2, it's a fairly decent tactical RPG, though it does run out of steam eventually, in my experience. Divinity: Original Sin 1: Similar to PoE, the sequel is better than the original in about every possible way. In this case you won' even miss on the story by skipping this one, there's no continuity to speak of. Dragon Age Origins - It was the first in a new wave of CRPGs trying to at least sort of faithfully interpret the classics, but it hasn't aged too well, I'm afraid. The sequels veered decidedly towards ARPG, and each successive entry got much worse than the previous one. Wasteland 2 - Extremely cheap production, very basic mechanics. The only reason you might want to try this is for the story and writing, but those didn't grab me either, it's very jokey, but mostly in a juvenile way that gets grating quickly. Tides of Numenera - they tried to position themselves as the new Torment, what we actually got was word salad wrapped in ugly aesthetics and boring mechanics. The only game on the list I'd call unambiguously trash. You mentioned Disco Elysium, it's great, but it's an adventure game / visual novel where the lines of dialogue and various options you get are influenced by points you distribute among your personality attributes, so completely different from all the other games here. If it sounds like something you might like, definitely go for it. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Jun 27, 2021 |
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Nioh 2 or Sekiro if I'm looking for more DS? Weapon variety is important.
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Fat Samurai posted:Nioh 2 or Sekiro if I'm looking for more DS? Weapon variety is important. Nioh 2 absolutely. Sekiro is super polished, fluid and fast paced but its an action game, not a RPG so you only have a katana and ninjutsu tools. Nioh 2 is definitely more Souls.
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Fat Samurai posted:Nioh 2 or Sekiro if I'm looking for more DS? Weapon variety is important. Not the same tone by any stretch, but the long-running Monster Hunter series has superb combat along similar lines as Dark Souls, with 14 weapons that behave very differently from each other (even if they appear visually similar; Gunlance and Lance have very little in common beyond their appearance; ditto Hammer and Hunting Horn). If your favorite parts of DS are boss fights and/or sunbroing, and you'd enjoy (or wouldn't mind) a more whimsical tone than DS, then the Monster Hunter games will be right up your alley.
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Fat Samurai posted:Nioh 2 or Sekiro if I'm looking for more DS? Weapon variety is important. Sekiro only has one primary weapon and the entire game is balanced around it. You get ninja tools too, and there's a lot of variety there, but they're more like spells in Dark Souls than like weapons. It's also a weird cousin to Souls games where it's clearly built on the same chassis but they've shuffled almost everything around, mechanically and narratively. Parries and dodges/rolls have switched place in importance, the RPG mechanics are streamlined, the story is about the same broad themes but you're a relatively fleshed-out character instead of a player-defined silent protagonist, etc.
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steinrokkan posted:Personal rankings from best / most interesting to worst / least remarkable: Thank you for this extremely helpful write-up. I think I’ll start with POE2, Underrail, and Witcher 1. That’s super disappointing to hear about Numenera.
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Armauk posted:Kingdom Come: Deliverance Just a heads-up that this game was made by gamergate chuds for those who are bothered by such things. Shine posted:Not the same tone by any stretch, but the long-running Monster Hunter series has superb combat along similar lines as Dark Souls, with 14 weapons that behave very differently from each other (even if they appear visually similar; Gunlance and Lance have very little in common beyond their appearance; ditto Hammer and Hunting Horn). If your favorite parts of DS are boss fights and/or sunbroing, and you'd enjoy (or wouldn't mind) a more whimsical tone than DS, then the Monster Hunter games will be right up your alley. Caveat that while there's a decent overlap between monster hunter and souls fans, there is absolutely no guarantee that you'll fall in there. I love Souls and I loathe the feel of Monster Hunter's combat. Osmosisch fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Jun 27, 2021 |
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nemesis_hub posted:I'd love to get some kind of ranking of these new-wave CRPRGs, as in, from most to least essential: quote:Divinity: Original Sin 1 and 2 quote:Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2 quote:Dragon Age series quote:Tides of Numenera quote:Pathfinder: Kingmaker The game is real-time with pause but can also be played in turn-based mode, through mods or a base setting; I can't remember. Speaking of mods, there's a ton available on Nexus. quote:Tyranny quote:Solasta: crown of the magister quote:Wasteland 2 remake?? quote:Underrail quote:Icewind Dale 1/2 quote:Planescape: Torment Other games worth playing. Some are classic RPGS, others aren't: 1. Heroes of Might and Magic 3 2. Might and Magic 6-8 3. Wizardry 8 4. Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar 5. Fallout 1/2 (if you never played them) 6. Fallout: New Vegas 7. Thief 1/2 8. Deus Ex 9. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri 10. Arcanum 11. Gothic series 12. Witcher 3
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I mostly agree with what's been posted, just want to emphasize that I really liked Pathfinder: Kingmaker, and I have never played Pathfinder or in fact any tabletop DnD, just Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale. So long as you play on Normal or Easy, I think it's perfectly playable. Make sure you get the Bag of Tricks mod--let's you tweak and edit anything you might find to be inconvenient.
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nemesis_hub posted:Thank you for this extremely helpful write-up. I think I’ll start with POE2, Underrail, and Witcher 1. That’s super disappointing to hear about Numenera. I agree with that list for the most part apart from a few changes and one addition: Shadowrun Hong Kong and Shadowrun Dragonfall: Short, well executed crpgs with some fun writing and tactical combat. There isn’t a tremendous amount of depth to them but they don’t overstay their welcome either. Their precursor, Shadowrun Returns is kind of a trial run, I would only recommend it if you want more after playing the others. I would rank Tyranny higher on the list. The things it does well (reactivity, multiple plots, communicating lore in an interesting way), it does really well. The budget clearly ran low though, so the final act is tiny and there isn’t much enemy variety. We’re probably going to see some of Tyranny’s innovations popping up in other crpgs in the future. Same with Numenera. I thought the writing was decent to good, but it is extremely text-heavy, moreso even than the original Torment. So don’t go into it expecting anything approaching a Baldur’s Gate style game. The game experiments with peaceful combat mechanics. Sometimes it works and is super cool, other times it kinda sucks. I really like Witcher 1 but it has aged almost as badly as Dragon Age: Origins (which I also think is great even if the graphics are cruddy) Prepare to run back and forth between old locations again and again and again.
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Fruits of the sea posted:Shadowrun Hong Kong and Shadowrun Dragonfall: Short, well executed crpgs with some fun writing and tactical combat. Shadowrun Trilogy is currently free on GOG.
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Sexual Aluminum posted:Or gimme another not cyberpunk open world rpg. Maneater
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Fruits of the sea posted:Shadowrun Hong Kong and Shadowrun Dragonfall: Short, well executed crpgs with some fun writing and tactical combat. There isn’t a tremendous amount of depth to them but they don’t overstay their welcome either. Their precursor, Shadowrun Returns is kind of a trial run, I would only recommend it if you want more after playing the others. Oh yeah, I forgot about Shadowrun. Definitely worth a try, SR Returns is indeed just mediocre, but don't let it discourage you, Dragonfall and Hong Kong are great.
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Osmosisch posted:Just a heads-up that this game was made by gamergate chuds for those who are bothered by such things. One prominent person of the dev team was an idiot chud, but the game itself is fine. Well actually the game is not fine, it's eurojank, and a gross experience of dipping yourself into the awful filth of human existence in 1444 eastern Europe. But if anyone is up for that, I'd recommend Kingdom Come.
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StoryTime posted:One prominent person of the dev team was an idiot chud, but the game itself is fine. Well actually the game is not fine, it's eurojank, and a gross experience of dipping yourself into the awful filth of human existence in 1444 eastern Europe. But if anyone is up for that, I'd recommend Kingdom Come. Agreed. Don't let one problematic person stop you from experiencing the prestigious Polish jank.
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Chamale posted:What's a game I can play online with my dad and sister? Dad says he doesn't want to play a "farming game" like Terraria and doesn't want to shoot people in an FPS. It would need to be online multiplayer and have crossplay between Mac and PC. I've played a lot of Terraria with my mom and sister and it was a really nice way to hang out since we live in different cities. Sea of Thieves has PvP in it but it's not an FPS and the majority of the gameplay loop is collecting loot via solving puzzles and reading maps and stuff. There are also some story quests where you're instanced and other players can't mess with you. BUT the vast majority of the encounters with other players will be unpleasant, so there's that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. You can fly an alliance flag and try to be friendly but people will be dicks regardless. But watching for foreign sails to gtfo before they can approach adds some interesting tension to the game. You can also try Diablo/Path of Exile. Diablo 3 is really shallow and has almost nothing to do unless you like chasing leaderboard scores. PoE has WAY too much to do and will take a lot of reading to learn all the different systems and set up a workable build, and honestly the multiplayer in it is kind of poo poo because they haven't worked out equal sharing of resources (loot competition is encouraged, only the map owner can advance their quest, etc.). But if either of those seem to work, maybe an offline ARPG like torchlight would work too. Is it just other players they don't want to shoot, or is it all shooting? Deep Rock Galactic has great co-op. Monster Hunter World... unless "farming games" are all grinds in which case nope . It's also pretty challenging to get into for casual players, probably.Raft is kind of a "farming game" but it does all the farming for you by sweeping crap up off the ocean, so it's more about strategic building, although the food/water grind is pretty poo poo in the beginning. You could build a huge houseboat and go explore islands. The story is unfinished yet though, but what's there is pretty good.
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Thanks for the advice. Nioh it is.
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Medieval Medic posted:Any recommendations for good detective games? Paradise Killer
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Chamale posted:What's a game I can play online with my dad and sister? Dad says he doesn't want to play a "farming game" like Terraria and doesn't want to shoot people in an FPS. It would need to be online multiplayer and have crossplay between Mac and PC. I've played a lot of Terraria with my mom and sister and it was a really nice way to hang out since we live in different cities. Starcraft 2, Portal 2 maybe?
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If I liked RE7 and RE8, how is Metro Exodus? I was looking for a fps game with exploration and overall cool atmosphere. It seems pretty nice looking but how janky is it on PS4?
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Thanks everyone for the CRPG recommendations, I now have a sense of how to attack this huge backlog of games that are new to me. I have another question: Wolfenstein. Which of the post Wolfenstein 3D games are worth playing today? W3D had this unique mood where it managed to feel genuinely grim and menacing at times and simultaneously absurd and comic booky. I’d be most interested in games that do something similar rather than just “generic ww2 shooter with zombies”.
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nemesis_hub posted:Thanks everyone for the CRPG recommendations, I now have a sense of how to attack this huge backlog of games that are new to me. I have another question: Wolfenstein. Which of the post Wolfenstein 3D games are worth playing today? W3D had this unique mood where it managed to feel genuinely grim and menacing at times and simultaneously absurd and comic booky. I’d be most interested in games that do something similar rather than just “generic ww2 shooter with zombies”. I haven't actually played them but my husband loved all the newest Wolfenstein games and the things he described to me sounded absolutely ridiculous, lol. It sounded very deliberately over the top, in a good way. We played a bit of Youngblood together, since it's the co-op one, and it was "okay" but kind of shallow and repetitive (daily quest grinds in an FPS? okay...). The main games have much better campaigns.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Paradise Killer Seconding this. I was pleasantly surprised at this deeply weird, aesthetically odd visual novel. Do not expect much from the non-detective gameplay, even though it looks a bit like a first-person platformer.
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Tagra posted:Is there a decent successor to Tiger Woods golf on PC? I have "The Golf Club" but the controls are kind of wonky and it doesn't really have the same career progression modes that Tiger did back in the day, so I ended up uninstalling it. I want to play golf, raise stats, and buy stupid clothes and new clubs for my dumb avatar so I can git gud enough to beat the next opponent. I don't want to sim golf. I can go suck at golf IRL, dammit. I play Tiger Woods to win championships and buy dumb shoes. PGA 2k21 is actually the sequel to The Golf Club (or The Golf Club 2, maybe, can't remember). I know it does have some limited character customization but not sure if it has everything you're talking about here, I usually just do quickplay and try to get a low score on a certain course. It's good though Medieval Medic posted:Any recommendations for good detective games? I recently picked up a game called Unheard in which you can magically listen to things people are saying in a set area, you gotta follow characters around to listen to them, then check out the other characters and eventually put all the pieces together. Seems pretty decent and actually reasonably hard, I got both questions wrong on the first level after the tutorial and I'm still not sure what the answer is. WaltherFeng posted:If I liked RE7 and RE8, how is Metro Exodus? I was looking for a fps game with exploration and overall cool atmosphere. I don't know about any jankiness, although I don't think it has a reputation for such, but it is indeed a good game with a slight amount of exploration stuff going on. There are semi-open levels where you have several different things to do, but it's not true open world. Most of the exploration is along pre-defined avenues. Still, it's a good game
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What are your favorite challenging arcade/retro styled action games? I recently played Star Fox 64, followed it with Star Fox Assault and then Sin and Punishment and had a blast with these on rails shooters but I figure I could move on to some other genres as long as they are arcadey/retro. What I really like about Star Fox and Sin and Punishment is that they have these simple mechanics that are satisfying and fun, and then they get pushed to the limits as the games get more challenging and throw more things at you. A lack of repetition is important to me, I think in Star Fox 64 each mission has it's own enemy types, and Sin and Punishment has new bosses coming at you every 5 minutes, as well as levels that are super distinct from each other. When I play open world RPGish games I spend like 4 hours and just end up wanting more, feeling like I didn't get enough constantly, but an hour of Star Fox 64 would leave me feeling satisfied and properly challenged. I've been busy lately, so these games I have been playing recently have really worked out for my schedule.
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Look into scrolling shmups, maybe? Jonestown is a good intro to the bullet hell genre, R-Type Final 2 is a good option for "classic" scrolling shmups.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Look into scrolling shmups, maybe? Jonestown is a good intro to the bullet hell genre, R-Type Final 2 is a good option for "classic" scrolling shmups. The Void Rains Upon Her Heart and Project Starship X are fantastic recent examples of shmups if you do decide to go with them.
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Any modern games with short, breezy play sessions like Weird Adventures in Infinite Space or Desktop Dungeons? And are sequels to Infinite Space any good?
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Play posted:PGA 2k21 is actually the sequel to The Golf Club (or The Golf Club 2, maybe, can't remember). I know it does have some limited character customization but not sure if it has everything you're talking about here, I usually just do quickplay and try to get a low score on a certain course. It's good though Thanks this is what I had in mind. I definitely want to give it a try.
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