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Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

I took a portal. Does that mean I’m gonna get kidnapped?

The mobs seem to have a really short aggro radius and there’s a ton of high level players with mounts and companions tearing poo poo up in the newbie area for some reason. So gameplay-wise it’s been bizarrely easy.

The story is kind of funny, an incompetent dunmer who was demoted sent the entire garrison off on a boating trip and then decided that me, a random dressed in rags who washed up on the beach is the one who will save the settlement :v:

Edit: also I chose a sarcastic dialogue option about missing my soul. It was kind of funny but then somebody else mentioned it unprompted. Is this actually a thing and the game forgot to mention it?

Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Aug 11, 2021

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StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Fruits of the sea posted:

I took a portal. Does that mean I’m gonna get kidnapped?

The mobs seem to have a really short aggro radius and there’s a ton of high level players with mounts and companions tearing poo poo up in the newbie area for some reason. So gameplay-wise it’s been bizarrely easy.

The story is kind of funny, an incompetent dunmer who was demoted sent the entire garrison off on a boating trip and then decided that me, a random dressed in rags who washed up on the beach is the one who will save the settlement :v:

There's a "main quest" storyline which should start with "Shriven in Coldharbour" or something like that. I don't think it gives you the hook for it until you get to the first main city, which for you is probably Daggerfall.

I mention it because by the time I got to the main city on my current new character and got the intro for that quest, I had like 17 other quests in my log and wouldn't have noticed that one was any more important than all the other quest line starter hooks except for having a vague recollection from years ago.

(edit): I think the main quest explains the soul stuff, yeah

StarkRavingMad fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Aug 11, 2021

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

Fruits of the sea posted:

I took a portal. Does that mean I’m gonna get kidnapped?

The mobs seem to have a really short aggro radius and there’s a ton of high level players with mounts and companions tearing poo poo up in the newbie area for some reason. So gameplay-wise it’s been bizarrely easy.

The story is kind of funny, an incompetent dunmer who was demoted sent the entire garrison off on a boating trip and then decided that me, a random dressed in rags who washed up on the beach is the one who will save the settlement :v:
The main story has you kidnapped, go through a story intro, then back to the starter zone. The starter zone itself is the same, but I was a bit more invested with the context. You won't get randomly kidnapped, you have to initiate the quest. They really should have just had everyone get kidnapped right after the portal. You could go get yourself kidnapped now if you want, otherwise it'll take a bit to have it happen if you follow everything in order.

The high level players are probably there to farm materials, the starter zones are denser with materials. Or sometimes they're people who never did the zone, at least on that character. The whole world is player scaled, so everyone can go to every area at anytime.

StarkRavingMad posted:

There's a "main quest" storyline which should start with "Shriven in Coldharbour" or something like that. I don't think it gives you the hook for it until you get to the first main city, which for you is probably Daggerfall.
EP is Davon's Watch. Daggerfall is for DC, who start in Stros M'Kai.

Peaceful Anarchy fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Aug 11, 2021

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Regarding the Soul stuff yes, Shriven in Coldharbor explains it. (reading below spoils a neat dungeon if you care)

It comes up in other contexts occasionally - however far too rarely, sadly. My favorite is the public dungeon where the Big Bad possesses people's souls to control them, and of course since you don't have one, he can't do jack poo poo to you and he rages because he can't figure out how the gently caress you resist him.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


the Auridon quest line where you pledge your soul to the insurrectionist cause

"My soul huh? Yes, uh I pledge it."

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
To be fair, normal Skyrim is kind of like that too, where by the end of the game I've promised my eternal soul to so many different Daedra, they're going to have to have a battle royale or something to decide it

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


StarkRavingMad posted:

To be fair, normal Skyrim is kind of like that too, where by the end of the game I've promised my eternal soul to so many different Daedra, they're going to have to have a battle royale or something to decide it

"Uhh, sure, I'll give you a pair of 'em, I've absorbed loads."

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

ESO is just Skyrim in MMO. Just like TOR and KOTOR.
And I'm not saying that as a bad thing at all.

If you like the wandering around in Skyrim, ESO is your game. I enjoy just getting high and exploring a zone at times. Just as much as sitting around and playing Skyrim on my Switch.

Sometimes I unlock a new house or something after doing a questline, and it rules.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


feel like ESO is a full bore Elder Scrolls game for Elsweyr on its own. it's pretty much a full Scrolls game for just the Black Marsh too

probably a Scrolls have for each of the faction's full OH silver/gold content too

poo poo there's an awful lot of content

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

Potato Salad posted:

feel like ESO is a full bore Elder Scrolls game for Elsweyr on its own. it's pretty much a full Scrolls game for just the Black Marsh too

probably a Scrolls have for each of the faction's full OH silver/gold content too

poo poo there's an awful lot of content

It's Skyrim if they kept adding new areas. And I love it for it. Especially since I can use a controller easily.

Also Murkmire rules.

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES
TIL that if you're in the middle of a public dungeon, and your dungeon finder group pops, when you're done it sets you outside the public dungeon and you gotta go through it again :(

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

xZAOx posted:

TIL that if you're in the middle of a public dungeon, and your dungeon finder group pops, when you're done it sets you outside the public dungeon and you gotta go through it again :(

You'd think I'd eventually learn not to do this, but, well.

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES
I've never really felt that this was "Skyrim online". I'm fact, the initial launch got so much poo poo because that was what people wanted, and they failed on it.

The world and questing though are all pretty great, and I think do a good job of being very Elder Scrolls. There's also the obvious superficial stuff like the ui and looting poo poo everywhere that give super Skyrim vibes.

But the combat, progression, leveling, 3p camera all feel like a pretty different game (not necessarily in a bad way mind you), very much stuff more suited to a modern MMO.

It 100% nails that Skyrim vibe of "I'll go do that task over there", and then you get distracted 500 times on the way there, then it's hours later and you're just finally getting to that task. To me that's the best part, and probably one of the more important ones.

I literally struggle on what to do once the five minutes for the writs are done, and I'm queued up for a dungeon. Go do some quests? But it'd be nice to wait until my gear was more settled, so I'll go work on farming that set. But then I need to finish crafting to improve those pieces, if I even get them. Better do some maps for supplies. But my refine skills aren't maxed, better so get some skyshards. Do delve and public dungeons too for points. Huh, might as well get this quest that goes with this dungeon. Go turn this in. Might as well knock out these other shards near by. Wait I got a new scrying lead! That's new, I should play with this. It's like a less lovely WoW archeology. Oh gently caress it's 1am, I gotta get to bed!

The specifics are different, but that was totally playing Skyrim for the first like 40 hours, until you start getting areas knocked out.

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

xZAOx posted:

I've never really felt that this was "Skyrim online". I'm fact, the initial launch got so much poo poo because that was what people wanted, and they failed on it.

The world and questing though are all pretty great, and I think do a good job of being very Elder Scrolls. There's also the obvious superficial stuff like the ui and looting poo poo everywhere that give super Skyrim vibes.

But the combat, progression, leveling, 3p camera all feel like a pretty different game (not necessarily in a bad way mind you), very much stuff more suited to a modern MMO.

It 100% nails that Skyrim vibe of "I'll go do that task over there", and then you get distracted 500 times on the way there, then it's hours later and you're just finally getting to that task. To me that's the best part, and probably one of the more important ones.

I literally struggle on what to do once the five minutes for the writs are done, and I'm queued up for a dungeon. Go do some quests? But it'd be nice to wait until my gear was more settled, so I'll go work on farming that set. But then I need to finish crafting to improve those pieces, if I even get them. Better do some maps for supplies. But my refine skills aren't maxed, better so get some skyshards. Do delve and public dungeons too for points. Huh, might as well get this quest that goes with this dungeon. Go turn this in. Might as well knock out these other shards near by. Wait I got a new scrying lead! That's new, I should play with this. It's like a less lovely WoW archeology. Oh gently caress it's 1am, I gotta get to bed!

The specifics are different, but that was totally playing Skyrim for the first like 40 hours, until you start getting areas knocked out.

Yeah, this is something I caution lots of new folks about. There's a lot to do, so loving much, and pretty much all of it is useful or necessary in some way. It's easy to kind of spin your wheels and feel like you aren't getting anywhere (though in your case you sound like you're having fun with it so right on keep going)

But if the sheer amount of stuff starts weighing on you, I'd say just focus on 2 or 3 things, max them out or complete them or whatever, then move on and do others.

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

xZAOx posted:

I've never really felt that this was "Skyrim online". I'm fact, the initial launch got so much poo poo because that was what people wanted, and they failed on it.

The world and questing though are all pretty great, and I think do a good job of being very Elder Scrolls. There's also the obvious superficial stuff like the ui and looting poo poo everywhere that give super Skyrim vibes.

But the combat, progression, leveling, 3p camera all feel like a pretty different game (not necessarily in a bad way mind you), very much stuff more suited to a modern MMO.

It 100% nails that Skyrim vibe of "I'll go do that task over there", and then you get distracted 500 times on the way there, then it's hours later and you're just finally getting to that task. To me that's the best part, and probably one of the more important ones.

I literally struggle on what to do once the five minutes for the writs are done, and I'm queued up for a dungeon. Go do some quests? But it'd be nice to wait until my gear was more settled, so I'll go work on farming that set. But then I need to finish crafting to improve those pieces, if I even get them. Better do some maps for supplies. But my refine skills aren't maxed, better so get some skyshards. Do delve and public dungeons too for points. Huh, might as well get this quest that goes with this dungeon. Go turn this in. Might as well knock out these other shards near by. Wait I got a new scrying lead! That's new, I should play with this. It's like a less lovely WoW archeology. Oh gently caress it's 1am, I gotta get to bed!

The specifics are different, but that was totally playing Skyrim for the first like 40 hours, until you start getting areas knocked out.

And now .... Endevours!! :smithicide:

longtimelurker
Mar 12, 2006

Powered by alcohol

I am really am enjoying this game. I went to Morrowind starting village. Realized that they literally added the entire island from how I remembered it. Felt overwhelmed by content and worked on some storyline I found that seems to lead me from zone to zone in a nice progression. Do you need to find all the lorebooks to get the ultimate for mages guild?

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES

Error 404 posted:

Yeah, this is something I caution lots of new folks about. There's a lot to do, so loving much, and pretty much all of it is useful or necessary in some way. It's easy to kind of spin your wheels and feel like you aren't getting anywhere (though in your case you sound like you're having fun with it so right on keep going)

But if the sheer amount of stuff starts weighing on you, I'd say just focus on 2 or 3 things, max them out or complete them or whatever, then move on and do others.

Oh it's definitely a "fun" thing for me. It's not overwhelming in a bad way, just a "funny to me" way. I like that if I get tired of whatever, I can just switch gears.

longtimelurker posted:

Felt overwhelmed by content and worked on some storyline I found that seems to lead me from zone to zone in a nice progression. Do you need to find all the lorebooks to get the ultimate for mages guild?

Sometimes I really like to just go icon-to-icon in a zone, doing the things. Just focusing on what's around me and nearby.

As far as lorebooks - I've been capped on Mages guild from my previous time I played, and there's still a billion books on my maps (from addons). So like, you need a bunch of them, but there's no way you need them all, or even close.

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

longtimelurker posted:

I am really am enjoying this game. I went to Morrowind starting village. Realized that they literally added the entire island from how I remembered it. Felt overwhelmed by content and worked on some storyline I found that seems to lead me from zone to zone in a nice progression. Do you need to find all the lorebooks to get the ultimate for mages guild?

No, you just have to level up your Mages Guild level, which you do get some advancement from gathering Lorebooks, but there's no way that will be enough. You can do this by doing the quest line (which is excellent BTW) and doing their dailies.

And yes, Morrowind is my Jam. I highly recommend everyone do it. They did a good job integrating the island and storyline with Morrowind (my fav ES game).

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Are there any PC NA goons play regularly enough to warrant being given perms in CBCL to invite/promote people off of probie rank? I'm hopping on this weekend to shuffle perms around and would like to at least leave more people with those perms, if not outright lead.

Anyone who needs an invite to the PC NA guild can quote this with their userID and I'll send out invites when I get on.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

I'm on nearly everyday and wouldn't mind checking to see if people need promoting and kicking people if we get full. I already invite most of the people who ask in the thread. I don't want full lead though, not really necessary with our level of activity.

There are a couple of others who I see are regularly online too, I guess they can reply if they're wiling.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Scyantific posted:

Are there any PC NA goons play regularly enough to warrant being given perms in CBCL to invite/promote people off of probie rank? I'm hopping on this weekend to shuffle perms around and would like to at least leave more people with those perms, if not outright lead.

Anyone who needs an invite to the PC NA guild can quote this with their userID and I'll send out invites when I get on.

@potatosalad

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

Potato Salad posted:

@potatosalad
Says account not found.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


gently caress me I'll go check, thank you for letting me know

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Potato Salad posted:

gently caress me

;-*

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

How important is server ping in ESO? I'm in the EU but I've always played on the NA server because that's where the goon guild was. I checked recently and my NA ping is usually 180-200ms (compared to 50-70 for the EU server). I was considering switching over but kind of don't want to since I'll lose access to all my crown store purchases.

Poe
Jul 22, 2007




Comrade Koba posted:

How important is server ping in ESO? I'm in the EU but I've always played on the NA server because that's where the goon guild was. I checked recently and my NA ping is usually 180-200ms (compared to 50-70 for the EU server). I was considering switching over but kind of don't want to since I'll lose access to all my crown store purchases.

I feel like I haven't had a problem unless it's 400+ because of ISP/server issues. Might be problematic if you want to be doing veteran endgame content, but why would you do that to yourself?

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

Doctor Zero posted:

Regarding the Soul stuff yes, Shriven in Coldharbor explains it. (reading below spoils a neat dungeon if you care)

It comes up in other contexts occasionally - however far too rarely, sadly. My favorite is the public dungeon where the Big Bad possesses people's souls to control them, and of course since you don't have one, he can't do jack poo poo to you and he rages because he can't figure out how the gently caress you resist him.

Yepp, got kidnapped and all was explained.

...except for why I was walkin around telling people I had no soul before it was stolen.

I’m still baffled as to why the game plopped me in a tutorial zone, let me choose a starting area, complete some storylines, then sent me to another tutorial dungeon in the middle of it all. Then I got sent back to Bleakrock, the place I just fled from. Super random.

Ebonheart plotline is pretty cool though, I like how the refugee villagers are along for the ride.

DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

Fruits of the sea posted:

Yepp, got kidnapped and all was explained.

...except for why I was walkin around telling people I had no soul before it was stolen.

You will find that one of the things ESO is very bad at is storyline continuity. I think this is a consequence of their decision to make everything scaled and thus completely remove any zone ordering.

But yeah, the intro bits are just very chaotic, and it gets even more hilarious when you leave off halfway through some of the zones/quest lines only to meet up with repeat characters in other zones who make references to you doing things you absolutely have not done yet.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


They do try to account for it in the conversations, especially in the DLCs, but yeah it can ocasionally be a bit jarring.

Cuddly Tumblemumps
Aug 23, 2013

Postmodernity means the exhilarating freedom to pursue anything, yet mind-boggling uncertainty as to what is worth pursuing and in the name of what one should pursue it.

Poe posted:

I feel like I haven't had a problem unless it's 400+ because of ISP/server issues. Might be problematic if you want to be doing veteran endgame content, but why would you do that to yourself?

Add-ons like Perfect Weave can compensate for ping. And just practicing a lot on your own. I do vet trial content with tons of Brazilians on NA and they are fine. My ping on EU sucks does not impact PvE and only sometimes can be blamed for PvP issues

longtimelurker
Mar 12, 2006

Powered by alcohol

Where can I find wheat? I have probably talked to every grocer I can get to, looted a metric ton of ginko, found a psijic wheat field with no wheat. Is there a place that I can reliably steal it?

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

longtimelurker posted:

Where can I find wheat? I have probably talked to every grocer I can get to, looted a metric ton of ginko, found a psijic wheat field with no wheat. Is there a place that I can reliably steal it?
Guild stores. Food ingredients are incredibly scarce when you start and unbelievably plentiful after you've been playing a while.
I can't think of anywhere to reliably steal wheat. I'm not sure it even has an ingame model.

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)

Private Speech posted:

They do try to account for it in the conversations, especially in the DLCs, but yeah it can ocasionally be a bit jarring.

If you play the storylines in the 'proper order', it will flow naturally. Characters who appear in later DLCs/chapters will acknowledge that you've met before, reference your past adventures, and everything.

The issue is, if you, say, play Elsweyr and then do the OG MQ (Five Companions), a certain Major Character who appears in both storylines will not acknowledge your past history when you do the OG MQ. Same with Greymoor and the OG MQ. And, I presume, Blackwood and the Orsinium storyline.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Ahh yeah I know, what I mean is that if you don't play the main quest before the DLC the characters do have different lines. The issue is if you go back to content added earlier where obviously newer content can't be taken into account at all.

Mostly because there's no voiced lines for them to use, IIRC that's the main reason the devs gave.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Aug 13, 2021

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Private Speech posted:

They do try to account for it in the conversations, especially in the DLCs, but yeah it can ocasionally be a bit jarring.

Just pretend you've become unstick in time.

Must be how a Timelord feels - timey-wimey-wibbly-wobbly and all that.

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

yeah, I’ve complained a bunch about narrative inconsistencies but it could just as easily be explained by CHIM or some fuckery with the elder scrolls or even another Dragonbreak.

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES
For ESO+ members - what do people like to use crowns for? Watched a youtube vid that had some suggestions like:

- Banker
- Merchant
- Boar mount / Packrat pet for +5 inventory slots each
- Warden / Necro if into that
- Transmute station
- Well
- Training Dummy
- Any race / any faction (I'm a one-toon person, so meh)

I'm already max mount speed / etc. About got all my research done too.

Anything else people might recommend? Besides the normal cosmetics, pets, mounts, personalities, houses. Banker / merchant sound

I already have some huge goddamn mansion in Summerset that I got from some community promo 3 years back. It's very very empty and lonely.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

xZAOx posted:

- Transmute station
You can buy this in game directly for gold (or writ vouchers), don't spend crowns on that. If you don't have the gold to spend on it someone will definitely be willing to trade you one (plus maybe extra gold) in exchange for 4500 crowns worth of crown store gifts.

I wrote a big post about the crown store here:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3793102&pagenumber=312&perpage=40#post516795520
but yeah those are the non cosmetic non-content things people spend money on, Imperial edition to play Imperial as well.

I feel like if you want access to the well and training dummies you're probably in, or able to be in, a guild that gives access to them. There are also a bunch of training dummies available in game, and I think all the crownstore ones except the trial iron atronach are just reskins of those. I feel like anyone who isn't trying to equip a guild hall would be better off with the cosmetics than buying training dummies. The Well has a very edge use where it could be worthwhile for a person not in a guild that has one, I guess.

Peaceful Anarchy fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Aug 14, 2021

atomicgeek
Jul 5, 2007

noony noony noony nooooooo
There are two cosmetic bundles I recommend, one with tons of hairstyles and one with cosmetics and accessories. Sometimes it's nice to change up your look a bit and they're just a toggle, instead of spending cash/crowns on an appearance change token.

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Dr. Sneer Gory
Sep 7, 2005

Synthwave Crusader posted:

Are there any PC NA goons play regularly enough to warrant being given perms in CBCL to invite/promote people off of probie rank? I'm hopping on this weekend to shuffle perms around and would like to at least leave more people with those perms, if not outright lead.

Anyone who needs an invite to the PC NA guild can quote this with their userID and I'll send out invites when I get on.

@blinkdog79

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