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Jabor posted:65k ^ 28 is 7 * 10^134 input sequences to check. It's not quite that bad, because if you want it to be real-console viable there are 6 impossible states on the d-pad, so each controller has (10 d-pad × 16 buttons) = 160 possible states, giving us 25.6k per-frame states across both controllers So the actual search space is 25600²⁸ = 2.7e123, which is still utterly impossible, but it's a slightly smaller utter impossibility.
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it's an impossibly smaller impossibility! the difference between you and the diameter of betelgeuse. Math is cruel
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Quick, someone do clock-and-bug-for-bug-perfect emulation of a SNES with arbitrary emulation speedup!
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https://www.twitch.tv/reallyreallylongathon really really longathon has been on since the 1st (and is going to the 24th!) there's a run currently 20 hours again of all stars/moons in 6 3d marios. he's not sleeping until the run is done and the estimate is 38 hours
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Aurora posted:he's not sleeping until the run is done and the estimate is 38 hours any time I hear about people doing that poo poo to themselves I just want to pour warm milk down their throats and tuck them into bed, that shits not healthy
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these poor gamers are ruining their lives by staying up for too long. we have to stop this.
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playing a game for 38 hours straight is pretty fuckin stupid
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site posted:playing a game for 38 hours straight is pretty fuckin stupid yeah get some sleep, it's still impressive that you keep a stream running that long hand it off to a friend while you sleep and shower come back refreshed! You being present the entire time does not make it more impressive, it actually takes away from it because you look like your about to fall over.
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the novelty is fully gone, it's purely just sort of a kooky exercise in self-sacrifice now. not to psychoanalyze anyone in particular but i imagine there's pressure to do stunts like this for audience-building/careerist purposes which is bad and not good
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Honestly I'm fine with hearing things like them staying up late for a good cause than them being outed as a nazi or something like that. Speaking of which, did anything come of Karl Jobst being "accused"?
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cage-free egghead posted:Honestly I'm fine with hearing things like them staying up late for a good cause than them being outed as a nazi or something like that. Speaking of which, did anything come of Karl Jobst being "accused"? Agreed, definitely prefer sleepy people to nazis
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staying up for extended periods like that is really damaging to the health, it's their bodies to do that to but I don't fuckin like it, that's all, I don't like when people gently caress up their hands playing poo poo either, sue me some real whackjob poo poo acting like caring about that is somehow an either/or proposition vs caring about right wing extremism in the hobby and at the same time implying via scare quotes that a man with a list of receipts a mile long is somehow not sus af bare minimum
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neongrey posted:some real whackjob poo poo acting like caring about that is somehow an either/or proposition vs caring about right wing extremism in the hobby and at the same time implying via scare quotes that a man with a list of receipts a mile long is somehow not sus af bare minimum what?
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b_d posted:what? there's a mod post a few posts up
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i think neongrey is reading a lot of things into that post that it doesn't say.
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i got annoyed about the scare quotes around 'accused' too but i wasn't gonna fight a mod about it
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neongrey posted:some real whackjob poo poo acting like caring about that is somehow an either/or proposition vs caring about right wing extremism in the hobby and at the same time implying via scare quotes that a man with a list of receipts a mile long is somehow not sus af bare minimum A mile long? Outside of a picture of a discord chat and him being pals with RWGoose, I haven't seen what else came to light about all of this. I used quotes more because of him denying all of it and not in any way defending him. For some reason this I'm really dumb and not clear in this thread. My bad. flatluigi posted:i got annoyed about the scare quotes around 'accused' too but i wasn't gonna fight a mod about it Nah, I deserved to be called out for that.
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cage-free egghead posted:A mile long? Outside of a picture of a discord chat and him being pals with RWGoose, I haven't seen what else came to light about all of this. did you miss his pua stint
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cage-free egghead posted:Honestly I'm fine with hearing things like them staying up late for a good cause than them being outed as a nazi or something like that. Speaking of which, did anything come of Karl Jobst being "accused"? For my part, once I realized his response was not "oh gently caress, I'm sorry" but "let me nitpick how I'm actually selectively not technically a nazi" I stopped following him. I imagine even seeing the details of the response would be a mistake and give him undue credit. His vids were good but there are plenty of other non-nazi speedrun commentators out there, though I admit every time I find a new one I'm like  'is this one a nazi oh no'.
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cage-free egghead posted:A mile long? Outside of a picture of a discord chat and him being pals with RWGoose, I haven't seen what else came to light about all of this. it was less 'a picture' and more 'an extensive history of him and the rest of that goldeneye crew all hanging out and saying vile poo poo together over the course of years, including explicit racism, antisemitism, and transphobia' but if you came at it after the fact it's understandable that you're only familiar with the reframing of it all
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kirbysuperstar posted:did you miss his pua stint lol no I remember that, but that feels tame in comparison to all the other poo poo.
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cage-free egghead posted:I used quotes more because of him denying all of it and not in any way defending him. For some reason this I'm really dumb and not clear in this thread. My bad. no worries, I'm kind of snappy and on edge lately myself, no hard feelings fake edit: the above is also an argument for getting enough sleep lol
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38 hour streams should not be encouraged and I think an event that does so is irresponsible and lovely the organisers could easily have made a great event showcasing long runs that didn't have runners doing poo poo like this
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oh my loving god guys.
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the runner's done this run 3 times including this one and said they're never gonna do it again after this one
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I dunno where to draw the line but I recall Highspirits on multiple occasions attempted a marathon of Dragon Quest 1-9 without sleep, which is certainly in the danger-to-self zone at something like 60 hours
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How are these people staying up that long? Pounding Red Bull or something more serious like Provigil or Adderall?
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Definitely doable though extremely unpleasant with just caffeine.
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Aurora posted:the runner's done this run 3 times including this one and said they're never gonna do it again after this one Prolly for the best, good effort for sure but drat, take care of yourself lol
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Former Human posted:How are these people staying up that long? Pounding Red Bull or something more serious like Provigil or Adderall? Highspirits took naps, showers, and food breaks and stuff and had a bunch of folks ready to pull the plug if he seemed too loopy to continue. We did call it the first time he tried but he was much better prepared the 2nd time and finished. 36 hours aint a big deal as long as you're not doing that often. It's just getting up one morning and going to bed evening the next day. I camped Raster for the monk epic in everquest for a drat week but he was on a 27 minute spawn timer so i'd set alarm, get up, kill the placeholder, go back to sleep
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Boogalo posted:I camped Raster for the monk epic in everquest for a drat week but he was on a 27 minute spawn timer so i'd set alarm, get up, kill the placeholder, go back to sleep Stop it man you're causing some of us itt to have bad early 00s MMORPG flashbacks.
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Yeah, skipping one night of sleep isn’t great but it’s hardly going to ruin your life - I do it whenever I fly across a large time zone gap to try and minimise jetlag, and I used to do it for far stupider reasons as a student.
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poo poo I couldn't do a 24 hour stream let alone 38 hours even when I was a young buck.
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For what it's worth, the organizers have publicly said in their Discord a lot that they actively encourage breaks for all runs over 6 hours - whether that's taking advantage of cutscenes, intentionally building in a few minutes of downtime, or even breaking the run into separate parts. There's also apparently a rule that you cannot run a game longer than 48 hours straight without breaks (which seems like an eternity for an old washed guy like me), though I don't know if anybody's ever submitted anything long enough to have that issue - there's been a couple longer runs but stuff like Baiten Kaitos where part of the 'run' is basically just leaving the game idling on its' own.
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MagusofStars posted:For what it's worth, the organizers have publicly said in their Discord a lot that they actively encourage breaks for all runs over 6 hours - whether that's taking advantage of cutscenes, intentionally building in a few minutes of downtime, or even breaking the run into separate parts. Can you really call it just 'part' of the run when it has to idle for two actual weeks for 100%?
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BisbyWorl posted:Can you really call it just 'part' of the run when it has to idle for two actual weeks for 100%? there are subcategories that skip the longest items and make it a long (but not *unreasonably* long) run
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e: it's late
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