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Aside from the whole “the fire marshal is in Disney’s pocket” thing, you can get all kinds of deviations from fire code if you compensate for whatever potentially unsafe things you’re doing. But it’s more expensive to use less inflammable materials or install state of the art active fire suppression or devote more of the floorplan to evacuation routes or whatever. Cheaper to built it like an ordinary hotel and slop some paint on it. The megafans will use their imaginations, right?
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I was looking at that hotel picture, the second one and my thought was "this is a warehouse right? i've done nightwork in places that look exactly like this." Also the part where Megillah Gorilla posted:I suppose it's like comics where people think the market is all kids, but it's actual single men in their 30s. Those men in their 30s WANT that kid experience again, thats what they are paying for, so it needs to IMPRESS them.
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Dec 19, 2021 07:23
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My kids have never seen star wars, god willing they never will.
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Dec 19, 2021 08:45
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShJtfRY_hsE For the record, here is the promotional video they have been trying to scrub from the internet. Wow, you can go into a bar and hear someone sing.
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Dec 19, 2021 10:39
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Neo Rasa posted:Plus like, $5,000 - $30,000 for 48 hours they're charging almost Westworld level $$$ and they don't even let you gently caress an animatronic? Debate & Discussion > Tech Nightmares: You pay Westworld money to Disney Hotel and they won't even supply a Realdoll
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Dec 19, 2021 11:28
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Neo Rasa posted:I felt a great cheapening in the Force, as if millions of whales suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
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Dec 19, 2021 12:03
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SimonChris posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShJtfRY_hsE While I'm not exactly sure what else the buyers expected, that singer did not feel star warsy at all and I'm puzzled at that being the centrepiece of their fake breathless excitement.
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Dec 19, 2021 12:18
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Nothingtoseehere posted:While I'm not exactly sure what else the buyers expected, that singer did not feel star warsy at all and I'm puzzled at that being the centrepiece of their fake breathless excitement. Shoulda been jizz music
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Nothingtoseehere posted:While I'm not exactly sure what else the buyers expected, that singer did not feel star warsy at all and I'm puzzled at that being the centrepiece of their fake breathless excitement. I mean that's the long and short of it. Like the wait for Haunted Mansion* or Excavation Everest or Tower of Terror goes by pretty fast because of the detail and commitment to having the line areas be completely in character. The two new Star Wars rides go above and beyond even those with it. Like the Millenium Falcon one is even built so once you're close to the ride part JUST you/your group gets to walk through half the ship before and the rest after with the after section being more or less wrecked based on how well your party does on the ride. So for the $$$ cost of it this space cruise thing was initially spoken of by Disney to be like the ultimate premium version of that experience with lots of in character cast members everywhere and even a kind of LARP/interactive theater expectation from people staying there with you picking a brief backstory/faction and stuff and different things playing out depending on how you interact with which characters. So with Disney claiming that level of Star Wars immersion, the price, and the legit excellent work they already did on the recent Star Wars stuff there so far it's easy to see why people are cancelling their reservations with how low budget they went with the architecture and stuff like that singer. *They even used to have people some distance from that ride dressed as the mansion's maids or whatever who wouldn't speak and if you made eye contact with them they would just look straight down and point towards the mansion or like the next closest one of them, stuff like that tl,dr: Owlofcreamcheese posted:Shoulda been jizz music
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Mister Facetious posted:Debate & Discussion > Tech Nightmares: You pay Westworld money to Disney Hotel and they won't even supply a Realdoll They stopped at the R&D stage when the goofy prototype's programming exhibited behavioral anomalies 
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Jenny Nicholson also posted about the itinerary for the Star Wars hotel, and it looks exhausting. You have to get up at 7 AM for non-stop Fun Star Wars Activities with hardly any breaks. https://twitter.com/JennyENicholson/status/1459718788962676742
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Just the eating times wouldn’t work. What happens when the kitchen gets backed up?
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It's marketed as a Star Wars super experience, but what it is is a treatment program for people who would spend that much money on a Star Wars super experience.
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SimonChris posted:Jenny Nicholson also posted about the itinerary for the Star Wars hotel, and it looks exhausting. You have to get up at 7 AM for non-stop Fun Star Wars Activities with hardly any breaks. Yet another stupid thing about structuring it like a cruise/resort (does that person not know what an itinerary is? Obviously Disney isn't expecting anyone to do all of those things in one go) - Who wants to drop that much money to only do like two or three of the activities or whatever, like they're expecting people to book a 48 hour stay every year? Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Dec 19, 2021 |
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More and more I see no reason why a holiday couldn't or shouldn't consist entirely of sitting on the beach drinking booze all day.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdPQbjVj8qk And there's also this, which would be amazing, if only video games didn't already exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48zQGqrX2EI
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I feel that an "unexpected story moment" that is neatly scheduled between 7:30 PM and 8 is not as unexpected as one might expect.
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Dec 19, 2021 17:58
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I feel that an "unexpected story moment" that is neatly scheduled between 7:30 PM and 8 is not as unexpected as one might expect. It's one of the known unknowns
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I feel that an "unexpected story moment" that is neatly scheduled between 7:30 PM and 8 is not as unexpected as one might expect.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:08
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Ghost Leviathan posted:More and more I see no reason why a holiday couldn't or shouldn't consist entirely of sitting on the beach drinking booze all day. With your phone turned off. This guy right here knows what's up
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What’s really fascinating to me is the degree to which Disney encourages a sort of parasocial relationship, which can at least partially be brought back around to tech nightmares in how much calculation and algorithmic stuff goes on, not to mention the amount of perpetual access that’s allowed via social media. One of my favourite responses to Disney being disappointing is that they’re “letting the fans down”, or even betraying them, as if Disney is a spouse who forgot their birthday. The vloggers in particular kind of blow my mind - it’s a perfectly engineered melding of content and lifestyle, where there’s no barrier between the corporate brand and your own personal value system.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:26
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Ghost Leviathan posted:More and more I see no reason why a holiday couldn't or shouldn't consist entirely of sitting on the beach drinking booze all day. I need an active holiday doing something outdoorsy, but yeah gently caress doing enforced fun to someone else's schedule
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Dec 19, 2021 18:40
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Ghost Leviathan posted:More and more I see no reason why a holiday couldn't or shouldn't consist entirely of sitting on the beach drinking booze all day. Yeah, this is more my idea of a holiday, but I could see how a Disney vacation could appeal to those with Type A personalities
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silence_kit posted:Yeah, this is more my idea of a holiday, but I could see how a Disney vacation could appeal to those with Type A personalities But. The kind of immersion I would see as worth that kind of money requires investing in people. There have to be a respectable sprinkling of actors wandering around. The videos they're trying to showcase have really minimal immersion: one bartender and a nightclub singer. There's no "whoops, just backed up into Chewbacca" going to happen, nor yet "I just got flirted with by a blue blob". This looks more like the kind of themed restaurant lunch where you're having Glinda The Good Gatorade and Dorothy's Favorite Donuts: standard food with a genre label slapped on top.
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I've seen better production quality on Fiver. Love that the prop projector is literally just the actress's Iphone with Adobe Premiere 101 effects slapped on it. I've also see way better immersive events and story planning at $30 ticket entry airsoft tournaments. Magic Hate Ball posted:What’s really fascinating to me is the degree to which Disney encourages a sort of parasocial relationship, which can at least partially be brought back around to tech nightmares in how much calculation and algorithmic stuff goes on, not to mention the amount of perpetual access that’s allowed via social media. One of my favourite responses to Disney being disappointing is that they’re “letting the fans down”, or even betraying them, as if Disney is a spouse who forgot their birthday. The vloggers in particular kind of blow my mind - it’s a perfectly engineered melding of content and lifestyle, where there’s no barrier between the corporate brand and your own personal value system. Parasocial relationships kinda terrify me. It was bad enough when Let's Play channels, and "team houses" and social media influencer types were just bombarding their fans to abuse that system to keep them watching and engaging on everything. But now with AI algorithms, content pipelines, and general persistent behavior tracking online and via your phone, you really could create an AI Managed...Cult basically. Remember when you'd just get a "We miss you" email if you didn't log into something for a few days? Well what if Pizza Hut texted you how hurt they were that you were cheating on them because they detected you went to a Dominos, as you went in the door? Crain fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Dec 19, 2021 |
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Crain posted:Is there a decent thread for "New CEO decides to see how far they can cut into their brands quality thinking that they're too big to see any criticism and that the customers will lap up any basic poo poo they put out only to realize they went too far too late?" Yeah dig up the 737 MAX thread.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:More and more I see no reason why a holiday couldn't or shouldn't consist entirely of sitting on the beach drinking booze all day. I don't like this (beaches are hot and boring) but give me a city where I can do a few interesting things, and then wander around drinking and eating. Spain is really great for this, the tapas thing means you don't just sit in one place and gorge yourself. You wander between many places and gorge yourself, and it's expected you'll have a nap in the afternoon to let the buzz from the lunch booze wear off. Schedules are extremely unpleasant when I'm travelling and I hate them. I can have a vague idea of poo poo I'd Like To Do, but pinning it down any further than that is hell.
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The best vacation we ever had, we rented an apartment. We had a kitchen so we could eat in if we were tired (husband cooked a magnificent chicken once), we didn't have to be out of the room so that housekeeping could come. It felt like hanging out in a city, rather than visiting it, if that makes sense. We did a fair bit of touristing, but we could go "home" and have a snack or just collapse on a couch whenever we wanted.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The best vacation we ever had, we rented an apartment. We had a kitchen so we could eat in if we were tired (husband cooked a magnificent chicken once), we didn't have to be out of the room so that housekeeping could come. It felt like hanging out in a city, rather than visiting it, if that makes sense. We did a fair bit of touristing, but we could go "home" and have a snack or just collapse on a couch whenever we wanted. Yeah, I've done that too. If you have time for a longer vacation (a month or longer) it's also fun because you can do additional weekend trips and then come "home" instead of dragging all your poo poo with you everywhere you go.
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Optimal parenting means scheduling equestrian training between lacrosse and debate team practice with 60 minute homework sprints before and after dinner. Optimal vacationing therefore means back-to-back-to-back one-of-a-kind unforgettable experiences for 5 days in a row and if one single thing does not live up to the insanely high expectations then SOMEONE is going to PAY for RUINING our RELAXING FAMILY HOLIDAY!!!
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At some point parenting must become fully outsourced. Such a pain when the sprogs come back from Le Rosey for the holidays.
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I think a perfect vacation would be one where I had no responsibilities for a week. Just an extra bedroom so I don't have to worry about waking up my wife / dog when I get up at 6 because that's the time I'm alarm-conditioned to do it would go a long way.
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knox_harrington posted:At some point parenting must become fully outsourced. Such a pain when the sprogs come back from Le Rosey for the holidays. Completely off-topic, but where does this come from? I've only ever known one person before you to use this word.
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Crain posted:Parasocial relationships kinda terrify me. It was bad enough when Let's Play channels, and "team houses" and social media influencer types were just bombarding their fans to abuse that system to keep them watching and engaging on everything. But now with AI algorithms, content pipelines, and general persistent behavior tracking online and via your phone, you really could create an AI Managed...Cult basically. There's also the element of negative engagement - hate-clicks, hate-watches, etc - which I found myself sucked into during the launch of Disney's Genie app, where I was watching videos of people having their days ruined at Disneyworld and feeling a kind of sadistic schadenfreude glee. Not that I think Disney is actively making things worse to draw those kinds of responses, but the fact that I now know the ins and outs of the Galatic Starcruiser and the Genie app because I couldn't turn away from the trainwreck makes me feel weird. It's hard to disengage from all the social media industries that pop up to mock and disparage the gigantic corporations that dominate the planet.
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PT6A posted:Completely off-topic, but where does this come from? I've only ever known one person before you to use this word. Yeah it's a bit weird but its a British upper class idiom for children
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PT6A posted:Completely off-topic, but where does this come from? I've only ever known one person before you to use this word. I thought it was antiquated slang for semen *Edit* turns out that was just in Australia
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So question: If an NFT is HTML link that is inexplicably "worth millions", and I make an NFT of an NFT, can I call it "NF Titty" and is it "worth millions" multiplied or squared? Please note: Whether or not I can afford to attend a Star Wars-themed Best Western may depend on this answer. Kaal fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Dec 19, 2021 |
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HootTheOwl posted:I think a perfect vacation would be one where I had no responsibilities for a week. Waking up naturally at 8am is a glorious feeling that Im only able to experience there.
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knox_harrington posted:Yeah it's a bit weird but its a British upper class idiom for children Yeah, the one guy I heard it from was an English drywaller, a very dear friend but I'd not call him upper-class  Is it commonly used? I know plenty of English/British people but I only ever heard one use it.
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Kaal posted:So question: If an NFT is HTML link that is inexplicably "worth millions", and I make an NFT of an NFT, can I call it "NF Titty" and is it "worth millions" multiplied or squared? Yes, this is arguably more artistically worthy than any NFT produced to date, even if it's pointless. But you still shouldn't do it because it wrecks the planet.
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