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There's not really a time limit on House if he isn't taken out of his pod but House is such a big personality and story bulwark that it'd be kind of tacky to keep him on. It satisfies both Yes Man and House endings if House "eventually passes naturally" one way or another and leaves behind a steward AI. The Legion is nomadic by design but has huge stretches of stable land where "raiders don't exist anymore" and people get formal educations and so on. A split into a few post-Legion factions would be pretty interesting. No, the Legion likely won't stay stable after Caesar passes. There will still be loads of secondary leaders who step into that power vacuum motivated by varying degrees of "I sure do like stable society!" And Legion society has a lot of ugly parts to it so you can get power struggles and philosophical differences there, some post-Legion cultures that aren't tyrannical jerks, 1-2(or one being jerked around by the real big bad) that are like HELL YEAH SLAVERY and jackasses so I have dudes to shoot. The militarized, nomadic advancing force of the Legion could certainly be or split into antagonistic forces under the same or new banners.
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Just gimme da three D’s: -Denver -dog -dialectic
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Give me Antony as a companion if we go to Denver, complete with Yuri Lowenthal destroying his throat to do that voice.
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I'd assume that you'd make a Fallout game somewhere in the vicinity of Nevada, but not in the Mojave itself. I don't really know where. Utah is kinda barren and doesn't have that much fertile ground for references. Idaho is even worse. New Mexico could get really weird. Texas is probably too far away. Colorado's been done. I guess maybe Oregon?
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Canada or Mexico could work, as you'd still be able to feature the whole Americana/American social critique element that's such a fundamental part of Fallout, but this time you could do it from the spicy angle of pre-war American culture being forced upon an occupied populace, as both of those countries were annexed.
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Doomykins posted:There's not really a time limit on House if he isn't taken out of his pod but House is such a big personality and story bulwark that it'd be kind of tacky to keep him on. Plus Rene is dead  Let's face it though, it would just be 76 over again, a quick slapped together cash grab.
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How have we not yet done a Fallout post-apocalypse take on Area 51? That could be cool. Just don’t stick actual aliens in it, but maybe it’s some secret prewar government tech where no one knows what it does and several factions are fighting for it. Basically New Vegas + Bloodlines with conflict over Hangar 18.
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The Sierra Army Depot and Big MT are close enough to Area 51 for me, but I wouldn't object to more insane science with lasers and sonic cannons and stuff
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If Fallout did Area 51 there would absolutely be alien poo poo there, on account of Aliens at Area 51 being a thing since at least Fallout 2. About the only wild thing Beth did with the aliens was make them responsible for the nuke war and they already walked that back, most of the alien poo poo's been a thing since the first game if you looked hard enough
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Gaius Marius posted:Tunneler ending is Canon. simultaneously nuked, corrupted by the brahmin barons, enslaved by the legion, gone galt by house, enabled by Yes Man, voted republican by the boomers, overrun by tunnelers, covered in gas from Elijah, tag-teamed by fuckbots from Big MT, and IDK maybe the White Legs ruined someone's innocence
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The NCR push into Baja is an obvious option, though that might risk replaying too many of the Vegas themes. Could continue going up north, Fallout 2 only got a bit into Oregon. Arizona after Caesar dies and the Legion collapses could be interesting too.
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Psycho Landlord posted:About the only wild thing Beth did with the aliens was make them responsible for the nuke war and they already walked that back, most of the alien poo poo's been a thing since the first game if you looked hard enough Bethesda never even did that, people just lied because they were mad at Bethesda.
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Themes from fallout nv that never got resolved were the degradation of the NCR and pending fall of the legion, and how more broadly the political systems established as imitations of the old world couldn’t resolve the problems of the new. Very curious where that goes next.
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Broken Box posted:simultaneously nuked, corrupted by the brahmin barons, enslaved by the legion, gone galt by house, enabled by Yes Man, voted republican by the boomers, overrun by tunnelers, covered in gas from Elijah, tag-teamed by fuckbots from Big MT, and IDK maybe the White Legs ruined someone's innocence Dust Mod was buggy as poo poo.
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A fallout VN in the NCR where you choose to play as an up and coming merchant / reporter / political intern. Can you expose the corruption, save the republic and maybe even fall in love along the way?
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There was a bit of talk about New Orleans a few year back for a new obsidian fallout. After seeing St.Denis in RDR2 I'm okay with it. Have it be some sort of isolated city state fighting for independence from a legion breakaway state or something. I like the idea of having underwater vaults underneath the gulf too, put on special power armor and go terror for the deep on mutant crawdads and gators. I do think there's some potential in the idea of a legion successor that keeps some of the ideology and esprit de corps and discards Caesars dumb bullshit. I don't really want to see NCR again, they're boring as gently caress. Seeing new Canaan would've been cool if they hadn't destroyed it. Actually a game set in the north with the Mormons attempting to resettle peacefully but coming into conflict with the locals unintentionally might be interesting. Like the gi blues quest drawn out into the main focus and the MC stuck somewhere desperately trying to avoid poo poo popping off. Sort of a turn a Gundam flavor
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Garrand posted:A fallout VN in the NCR where you choose to play as an up and coming merchant / reporter / political intern. Can you expose the corruption, save the republic and maybe even fall in love along the way? A trading sim like Patrician but with you as a young merchant on the come up in the hub or something has long been a dream of mine.
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Garrand posted:A fallout VN in the NCR where you choose to play as an up and coming merchant / reporter / political intern. Can you expose the corruption, save the republic and maybe even fall in love along the way? NCR Noire when
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One of the endings to Lonesome Road was to nuke everything, so they might go that route if they want to keep the setting from getting too post-postapocalyptic. I'd prefer they just move the focus further north or south, though.
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Ironslave posted:One of the endings to Lonesome Road was to nuke everything, so they might go that route if they want to keep the setting from getting too post-postapocalyptic. A game set on the gulf coast could be a lot of fun.
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Byzantine posted:Bethesda never even did that, people just lied because they were mad at Bethesda. I thought I remember that being a thing in one of the Zeta terminals but eh maybe
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Psycho Landlord posted:I thought I remember that being a thing in one of the Zeta terminals but eh maybe It was. One of the terminals is an army man having his mind psychically probed by the zetans who are trying to get launch codes from him. It's not stated they started the war, but that log heavily implies they may have done it. And given Bethesda's ham-handed writing, it was almost assuredly there to make people go "whaaaa what a shock the aliens might have done it!!!"
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Ironslave posted:It was. One of the terminals is an army man having his mind psychically probed by the zetans who are trying to get launch codes from him. It's not stated they started the war, but that log heavily implies they may have done it. And given Bethesda's ham-handed writing, it was almost assuredly there to make people go "whaaaa what a shock the aliens might have done it!!!" Log 17 also doesn't actually play any human audio in-game. We only know the contents of it because of the subtitle file. It's as good as cut content. For those wanting to be on the same page, the cut dialogue pulled from the wiki: quote:Our defenses consist of 3 battalions of light infantry, 34 pieces of field artillery, 108 armored vehicles and 42 aerial vehicles. (Alien Babble) We have 38 ICBM's always on alert and ready to fire when the word is passed down from the White House. (Alien Babble) The codes to activate the launch sequences are... are... uhhngh.... no... I can't let you... uggh... get out of my mind! (Alien Babble) Agggh! The c-codes... are... ugh.... no... I can't betray... AGH! My head! I can't... won't... AGGGGH! Agggh...
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That also portrays a guy dying rather than surrendering the launch codes, which doesn't suggest the aliens ever actually got the launch codes. I was annoyed with that DLC because there was no indication of what if anything the aliens even wanted, they were just hanging out for 200 years
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Best Friends posted:Themes from fallout nv that never got resolved were the degradation of the NCR and pending fall of the legion, and how more broadly the political systems established as imitations of the old world couldn’t resolve the problems of the new. Very curious where that goes next. The main issues the NCR is facing is corruption and an overstretched military. Most of the people who insist the NCR is about to fall apart tend to have a dim view of the Republic for various reasons, and we see that the NCR is actively working to avoid issues of water, power and food shortages, and technological stagnation.
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I mean even if the intent was "aliens did it" when Zeta came out, Beth already walked that back given FO4 has several logs of the actual start of the great war2house2fly posted:That also portrays a guy dying rather than surrendering the launch codes, which doesn't suggest the aliens ever actually got the launch codes. I was annoyed with that DLC because there was no indication of what if anything the aliens even wanted, they were just hanging out for 200 years They're just spooky 50s aliens, they're not meant to have a motive beyond vague body horror and cool loot to take
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2house2fly posted:they were just hanging out for 200 years They had a samurai in stasis, meaning they'd been hanging around for at least 400 years! 
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Gaius Marius posted:There was a bit of talk about New Orleans a few year back for a new obsidian fallout. After seeing St.Denis in RDR2 I'm okay with it. Have it be some sort of isolated city state fighting for independence from a legion breakaway state or something. I like the idea of having underwater vaults underneath the gulf too, put on special power armor and go terror for the deep on mutant crawdads and gators. The Legion is 5,000% nothing but Caesar's dumb bullshit. If literally anything of the Legion survives, they're gonna carry over some of that. One of the big things about New Vegas was that it was fundamentally premised on its city-state not being isolated. House relies on the NCR's money, and the city actually needs a lot of food and water from the countryside. You see all these lines of trade going from the city to other settlements. If they did a New New Orleans, they need to do the whole river economy thing, and maybe answer what Fallout coasts are like. I guess another issue is that it's a very, very different kind of environment from standard Fallout. FO1, 2, and NV all have similar environments because they were all largely deserts before war. A lot of the weaknesses of Fallout 3 was because it was trying to map the Californian desert onto DC/Maryland swamps. I think you could do a Fallout swamp right, just that it'd take a lot of work. Gaius Marius posted:I don't really want to see NCR again, they're boring as gently caress. Seeing new Canaan would've been cool if they hadn't destroyed it. I feel like if they set a game in Utah, they'd need to come up with more than just Mormons. Which while that's about the only thing most people know about Utah, they're only a little more than half of the state. SlothfulCobra fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:I'd assume that you'd make a Fallout game somewhere in the vicinity of Nevada, but not in the Mojave itself. I don't really know where. Utah is kinda barren and doesn't have that much fertile ground for references. Idaho is even worse. New Mexico could get really weird. Texas is probably too far away. Colorado's been done. I guess maybe Oregon? New Mexico, as the birthplace of the atomic bomb, seems like an appropriate place to go. Plus, El Paso and Juarez could be real interesting to explore - adjoining cities at the US-Mexico border, until the border stopped existing along with the countries themselves.
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I don’t care where the next game is set in as long as Bethesda doesn’t do the writing and development in house
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Psycho Landlord posted:If Fallout did Area 51 there would absolutely be alien poo poo there, on account of Aliens at Area 51 being a thing since at least Fallout 2. Tbh the one thing I would want to happen if specifically Obsidian did Fallout: Area 51 would be the final reveal that there's loving nothing in there and now you the player are faced with the quandary that all these different factions and motives are fighting over an empty warehouse
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ThaumPenguin posted:They had a samurai in stasis, meaning they'd been hanging around for at least 400 years! The best route imo is that tho they seem menacing, they are just collectors of artifacts and information. Nothing sinister or Ancient Aliens guiding humanity besides just incidental influence from Roadside Picnic'ing and creating oddities through experimentation and what not. They're ultimate goals are literally alien and/or mundane in the large scheme of things. Cross-Section posted:Tbh the one thing I would want to happen if specifically Obsidian did Fallout: Area 51 would be the final reveal that there's loving nothing in there and now you the player are faced with the quandary that all these different factions and motives are fighting over an empty warehouse
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I'd like to see what's going on in the rest of the world. Fallout: Mozambique, or something.
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If they wanted to do Area 51, I guess there's plenty of Nevada to play around with north of Las Vegas, but the area is especially barren aside from that. Not much else to play around with besides the I guess between Roswell and Los Alamos, New Mexico has enough to base a game on without making everything up. I guess I worry that the specific culture of the state (of which, there is some, unlike Arizona) would be lost. Also I dunno how you'd build the map. Both of those are very far away from eachother, and then the biggest city in New Mexico isn't even in New Mexico. Also, New New Vegas. Come to think of it, does New Vegas directly reference nuclear testing sites in Nevada? Some of which in view of the casinos?
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there's a nuclear test site at the bottom of the map where you can get some sweet shades 
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As much as I loved NV I'd prefer a new location, preferably with a couple of new factions. I also don't need to see NCR again unless something major happens to them and causes a major change.
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i want to see Bethesda create Fallout Hawaii Not obsidian. Bethesda.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:i want to see Bethesda create Fallout Hawaii Hmm, how will we put super mutants, the BOS, the enclave and raiders onto an island?
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