Pillars of Eternity: pillars lasting more than four hours

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Offkorn: Jan 16, 2008; Borderline Anti-Social Schizoid

VDay posted:

Gaining back all your health and spells is the most powerful recovery mechanic in the game, and is thus limited. I'm not sure how it's so hard to understand or why you have such a strong problem with it. The entire game would have to be rebalanced if you could just press "Rest" an infinite amount of times in between every single fight.

It's only infinite if you have enough money and space in your inventories (or have Stash enabled) to make it so. And if people want to play that way, why exactly is that an issue for you?

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Imagine being able to freely unload every single high-level priest, wizard, and druid spell every single fight? It would completely trivialize the game as it is, and the game would have to subsequently be made much, much harder. Instead the rest limit is there as a way to prevent you from spell/ability spamming so that you have to make tough choices like "Do I blind all these guys or save the spell for the next fight" instead of just getting into a rhythm where you cast the same things every single fight because there's no reason not to.

Like, oh I don't know, every single D&D game before this? They sure were devoid of challenge! Oh... wait.

And again, this game was supposed to be all about 'being able to play the game how you want to play it'. With as much or as little challenge as desired.

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Accordion Man: Nov 7, 2012; Buglord

fennesz posted:

I hate to be kind of a turd but you had to expect they'd keep at least some mechanics similar to all of the old isometric games because that's what they set out to make.

Yeah, but DA:O was the first game to shoot for the Baldur's Gate successor throne and it didn't feel as obtuse as this game does at times with its mechanics.

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Pellisworth: Jun 20, 2005

iGestalt posted:

I'm torn on what class to pick - Cipher and Rogue both seem pretty neat.

Can a Rogue eventually become strong enough to tank or use spells? I'm not entirely sure how the magic system works. Likewise, could you use a Wizard as a Rogue-esque? I assume not, but worth asking!

The answer to all of those is mostly no. Rogues are kinda glass cannon stab (and/or shoot) dudes, they are not going to tank well and don't have access to much in the way of spells/abilities.

Cipher is a good option, you can do that melee or ranged (or both, no restrictions on weapons). Also consider a Priest of Skaen, they're kind of a cleric/thief hybrid and get a mini Sneak Attack.

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GhostDog: Jul 30, 2003; Always see everything.

Average Bear posted:

http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/comments/30lmx2/psa_doubleclicking_equipment_bug/

gently caress Obsidian. I used the double click on my whole party to switch between disguise and armor in the keep. gently caress. Obsidian.

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frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

I think the OP should be updated with these gamebreaking bugs

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Mr.Pibbleton: Feb 3, 2006; Aleuts rock, chummer.

Anyone know if that ranger reload ability and the chanter reload song stack?

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rope kid: Feb 3, 2001; Warte nur! Balde
Ruhest du auch.

Justin Credible posted:

Rope Kid since you are active I just wanted to make sure this is absolutely brought to your guys attention since this is very close to a game-breaking bug for Ciphers.

https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/72492-bug-cipher-focus-gain-permanently-disabled-by-drinking-horn-of-moderation/

Long and short of it is if you equip the Drinking Horn of Moderation you permanently lose the ability to regenerate focus and you are stuck with every encounter with half your focus and that's all you ever get. At the point I got hit with it (around 20 hours in) is the point I imagine is in the same ballpark for everyone else, and I've just mostly been relying on quick and auto saves. I can't imagine how crippling it is if you are doing this ironman.

Tim has already fixed this and I believe BMac has already fixed the double-click equipment bug.

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Viral Warfare: Aug 4, 2010; ~~a n d I a m c a l m~~

I think the game should be updated to fix these gamebreaking bugs.

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Kanfy: Jan 9, 2012; Just gotta keep walking down that road.

Offkorn posted:

Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the entire selling point of this game and all those ten-thousand granular settings page options to allow each player to be able to have the game fit their personal playstyle? To make it either as streamlined or as hands-on as they wanted?

The limit on the number of supplies you can buy is a sour note that does not fit with that philosophy. If someone wants to use all their abilities as much as possible, why should you go out of your way to hobble them? Using abilities is one of the better parts of combat, and there are classes like the Chanter which get infinite uses regardless, making the Wizard/Priest's reliance on an artificially handicapped resource even more glaring.

No, the entire selling point of this game was for it to be a throwback to Infinity Engine games. It not requiring hardcore IE experience or skills to finish was also a thing they said which is true, but if you read that as "anyone can run through the game with zero effort doing whatever" then that's an issue on your end.

Either way it's such an integral part of the game's balance that it's unlikely to go anywhere, and it's nearly not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be here.

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Dandywalken: Feb 11, 2014; Can't post for 2 hours!

Viral Warfare posted:

I think the game should be updated to fix these gamebreaking bugs.

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Firstborn: Oct 14, 2012; i'm the heckin best
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Is there a date set for that patch, then?

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Viral Warfare: Aug 4, 2010; ~~a n d I a m c a l m~~

rope kid posted:

Tim has already fixed this and I believe BMac has already fixed the double-click equipment bug.

Then put them in a hotfix and release them!!!!!!!!!

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rope kid: Feb 3, 2001; Warte nur! Balde
Ruhest du auch.