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Alan Smithee: Jan 03, 2005; You'll never post in this town again

dj_clawson posted:

It was announced a few days ago. They lost their appeal. It's wrong because Scientology shouldn't have the tax break it has in the first place, but if they won, it would set a precedent and every single Jewish family would be filing for tax breaks in April. I didn't expect it to win.

Neither did I, but I was hoping at least it would make the federal government grow a drat pair and man up to scientology

# ? Dec 18, 2008 05:28

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# ? Feb 09, 2010 14:40

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

The Sklar case affirms the precedent from the Supreme Court case Hernandez v. Commissioner that Scientologists can't deduct their course fees and other "fixed donations". (They can still deduct donations for buying buildings and so on.)
What's needed now is that somebody with standing files a suit to compell the IRS to follow the law and the court rulings, or that Congress or the President take action.

Jack Does Jihad posted:

When did this happen?

September 8th 2008:
ANONYMOUS MEETS with WILL SMITH HIMSELF - WS Justifies Study Tech (Result of 9/8 NVA)

FOXNews.com - Will Smith Clears the Air

quote:

This year, news broke that Will had funded a school in suburban Los Angeles that used one of Scientology’s study programs. It seemed like Will and Jada were making a statement. But they didn’t actually make a statement.

Monday night, I ran into Mr. and Mrs. Smith at the premiere of “Lakeview Terrace,” which Will has produced with partner James Lassiter. Jada was there, too. And here’s the thing about Will and Jada: they are immensely likable. They are incredibly gracious. Even when Will’s overzealous security guard, the size of the Cleopatra column, attempted to block and neutralize me, Smith intervened quickly.

I told him I’d heard he’d given a press conference to the group called Anonymous, which protests Scientology.

“Not exactly a press conference, but I did talk to them,” he said. Mind you, Will had just gone to the buffet and was carrying a plate of food. This was up at the swanky new Empire Hotel rooftop following the premiere of “Lakeview,” which stars Samuel L. Jackson and Kerry Washington.

So, what’s the story? Is Will a Scientologist? “I am not,” he told me. The school is using one of Scientology's teaching tools, but Will said, “You can take different parts of things you like and put them all together.”

This is similar to what he told the Anonymous people (who remain, I presume, unknown). In their recent press release, the group said, "We appreciate Will's interest in our efforts and his openness in speaking with us directly. It shows his concern both as a parent and educator.

"Anonymous is hopeful that NVLA will take the great strides necessary to correct for the deficiencies in Scientology's Study Tech, or abandon them altogether. We will be keeping an eye on the situation to make sure that NVLA lives up to the goals Will Smith has for it, which include keeping the Church of Scientology out of the classrooms."

More importantly: Jada wore a short-waisted vintage dress, with the bust covered in a silver mylar sort of thing. It was very cool. She told me she was thrilled “The Women” had made $10 million in its first weekend, since it only cost $16 million. “We’re in the clear whatever happens now,” she said.

Also note that the tax return we're talking about is from 2007. We don't know if the Will and Jada foundation will give any money to Scientology this year - apart from the New Village Academy.

Vir fucked around with this message at Dec 18, 2008 around 10:01

# ? Dec 18, 2008 09:59

ApocalypsePlease: Aug 03, 2008

Mongoose Face posted:

Its been a while since I posted in this thread, but on the 13th of December Melbourne Anonymous got together for the final protest of the year. However, it fell on the same day as the 'No Clean Feed' protest so we got a little sidetracked. Anyway, theme was A Very Spartan Christmas, and if you watch the video you can see the massive crowds of people watching. I think we ended up recruiting about 20-30 people in that hour or so, so next time we're doing it all day!

Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nWRjmqS18k
I suggest you watch in High Quality.

Rain, Spartans and free energy drinks = failed protest but excellent fun!

My feet were so cold when I got home, I'm just waiting for a toe to drop off

# ? Dec 18, 2008 11:05

hisss: Mar 31, 2006; When the gays attack! ...will you be ready?

Alan Smithee posted:

Is this like the Game meme? While we're derailing can someone explain the "I accidentally the whole thing"

Sorry I accidentally my whole answer.

THE WHOLE THING.

I wish I had something to contribute to this thread for real but I couldn't pass that up.

# ? Dec 18, 2008 11:12

IShallRiseAgain: Sep 12, 2008

quote:

More importantly: Jada wore a short-waisted vintage dress, with the bust covered in a silver mylar sort of thing. It was very cool. She told me she was thrilled �The Women� had made $10 million in its first weekend, since it only cost $16 million. �We�re in the clear whatever happens now,� she said.

Gotta keep your priorities straight.

# ? Dec 19, 2008 00:28

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

Yeah it's kinda cool, I guess.

Producer James Lassiter and actors Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith attend the "Lakeview Terrace" premiere at the AMC Lincoln Square on September 15, 2008 in New York City.
(Photo by Bryan Bedder/Getty Images North America)

# ? Dec 19, 2008 02:49

IShallRiseAgain: Sep 12, 2008

that was sarcasm lol.

# ? Dec 19, 2008 03:37

Eris Is Goddess: Nov 18, 2000; MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW
MEOW MEOW MEOW.
MEOW MEOW MEOW
MEOW MEOW ASSHOLE.

Vir posted:

Also note that the tax return we're talking about is from 2007. We don't know if the Will and Jada foundation will give any money to Scientology this year - apart from the New Village Academy.

Oh give me a break, I don't see why anyone's giving him any leeway here. He's a bleedin' clam.

Before Tom Cruise "came out" as a full COS drone, he gave the same speech about being a Catholic enjoying studying Scientology.

# ? Dec 19, 2008 06:08

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

He's suspect, at least, but charity is against the Scientology doctrine of equivialent exchange, so I'm not yet sure if he is one. It would not be the first time that they milked money out of a non-member for "charity" purposes.

LA Valkyrie premiere report:
http://www.socalanon.com/forums/new...t-game/msg2763/

quote:

Extrie! Extrie! Read all about it!

Where's the hoardes of fans?
Where's all the pretty girls?

Here's the eye-witness account of a brave "Anon", at the sad scene of the Lolkyrie premiere:

When we arrived at the spot of the premiere, there were barricades set up along both sides of the street, presumably for the throngs of fans and paparazzi that weren't there. We took our spot across the street from the hubbub against one of the barricades.

We immediately noticed a lot of cops. We're talking between 15-20 just along the front. Some on foot, some on rested motorcycles. We even saw a few familiar faces on the squad: the usual suspects from the LRH Way street closures.

There was a red carpet within a tented area set up so that stretch limos could pull up in front, and the assorted celebs could get out, walk about 5' and file into the tent through a flap door. There was also a bullpen type area to the side of the tent that allowed around 100 fans to hang out and try to catch a glimpse of aforementioned celebs.

The moment we arrived, several fans within the bullpen area started taking photos of us. Two guys sitting at a table in front of the coffee shop, obvious PI types, were doing some fail camera work. They claimed to be there for Tommygirl, but kept their cameras on us the whole time. When an anon called them out, they left the table to go sit in their minivan, parked just across from us and continue filming.

When Tom arrived, he quickly entered and they closed the flap to the tent but only while he was in there. One of the paparazzo on our side of the street came over to tell us that he was in there and that they'd closed the tent. At that point, the Anons started calling Tom and asking him to come out and play. They cited various crimes that his money goes to bankroll, challenged him to come hang out and chat, etc.

Nothing.

No response on Tom's part.

What happened to confronting and shattering suppression?

Boo.

After about an hour, Lizza Uvizl, the woman who ever-so-lovingly filed a restraining order against AGP, came down the street, refusing to look in our direction and briskly walked into the building. AGP just so happened to have been present at the time.

Coincidence?

Around 7:30, when the movie was starting and the assorted celebs were all nestled in with their popcorn, we walked down to the garage entrance to catch people who weren't staying for the movie. A ladyfan who'd been in the tent area came over to chat with us. She'd wanted to leave but the valet guys had her car blocked in the garage. She asked us to give her info on what we had been yelling about and what kind of nasty business CoS was up to. We explained a bunch of stuff, including Fair Game, and she said "Yeah, I heard one of the guys on the corner talking on a radio about where you guys were standing and that you'd moved. I thought that was kind of creepy and excessive."

At least 2 paparazzi got film of us waving our signs around and Shoop hollering when Tom arrived. We also had our photos taken by several different paps. At one point, one of them came over to us and told us that Jenna Elfman apparently overheard Anons and got a nasty look on her face. "You got to her!" they said.

Tee hee.

Fun night, very receptive people on the street, everyone was on their best behavior and it was freakin' COLD. Ya know, for Cali...

# ? Dec 19, 2008 11:20

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

And it made the Daily Mail.

Slender Tom Cruise takes to the red carpet for premiere.... but anti-Scientology protesters steal the show again

With pictures of LA Scientology protesters.

Edit: And it's *that* megaphone again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl0psoO2UJk

Vir fucked around with this message at Dec 19, 2008 around 23:08

# ? Dec 19, 2008 14:55

sildenafil: Dec 17, 2004

This was posted on a local forum. It's a quote from The Complex concerning Anonymous.

quote:

"Scientology was firmly on the world agenda and as my confidence grew, an organisation called Anonymous emerged. Anonymous are really a viral marketing version of a human rights movement. It is made up of regular people from all professions, creeds and religions across the world, who had decided to stand up and say 'this is enough'. I think this Internet-based group of wonderful activists will prove to be Scientology's nemesis. They believe in the right to freedom of speech and fight organisations that try to hide nefarious deeds behind the cloak of legal threats and 'public relations'. Anonymous run forums, print material, alert journalists and, since February 2008, have staged protests every single month outside every Scientology Centre in the world. Their mere existence has empowered me, and many others, to be even more vocal in exposing this abusive cult. They have given me huge strength and a new-found belief in the human race. The humanity and the sense of empathy I have gotten from these strangers, or as the Church of Scientology has described them 'cyber-terrorists', has been just gut wrenching for me. Each and every one of them who have contacted me, have expressed their disgust and shock at the conditions endured by staff and Sea Org members.

When I realised what the movement are doing and how powerful a force Anonymous have become I actually broke down and cried. They are taking a stand for me and for Scientology's victims like Alice* and Lisa McPherson, and for the countless others whose stories have not been told but whose lives have been destroyed by this evil cult."

* For those who haven't yet read the book, Alice is a young woman who was crippled after a suicide attempt at Saint Hill.

# ? Dec 20, 2008 00:25

Bagu: Mar 20, 2006; Show my note to River Man

Suing someone in England looks like it's going to get a bit harder.
British MPs are trying to reform UK libel laws. It seems they're tired of becoming an international laughing stock.

# ? Dec 20, 2008 03:12

BrainWeasel: May 08, 2007; I'll reattach your arm when I hit fucking Level 2!

OP updated finally. Let me know if there are any broken WWP links, missing articles I should have added, suggestions, etc.

In other news, I'm back at my family's place where there are actually TVs and holy crap are they dropping a lot of money trying to make Cruise seem not crazy. I never really got a sense of it online -- good job you lovable assholes, you.

# ? Dec 20, 2008 03:35

clamiam: Mar 04, 2008; IF A ROBOT IS BUILT IN THE FORM OF HUMAN BEINGS IT IS HARAAM

sildenafil posted:

This was posted on a local forum. It's a quote from The Complex concerning Anonymous.

* For those who haven't yet read the book, Alice is a young woman who was crippled after a suicide attempt at Saint Hill.

tl;dr: From the rear end in a top hat of the internet, a phoenix has risen.

# ? Dec 20, 2008 11:37

GonadTheBallbarian: Jul 23, 2007; "Serious sport is war minus the shooting."

clamiam posted:

tl;dr: From the rear end in a top hat of the internet, a phoenix has risen.

Ebaum's world had nothing to do with this, thank you very much

# ? Dec 20, 2008 22:21

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

Sydney had a raid on the 20th of December:

Photos by SNM

ASYD.ORG // ANONYMOUS SYDNEY / Photo's from today's raid

Zhent posted:

I too thought it was a fantastic raid!

There were definite improvements across the board from last month, and months before.
The enthusiasm and energy was pretty huge this month, everyone was really in the spirit and gave the raid their all.
Numbers seem to have held almost steady as well! Quite impressive as I though we would lose heaps of anons when the date was so close to Christmas.

Lots of signs this month! Excellent work and make sure to bring them next month.
Loads of singing and dancing, all through the day, it was fantastic fun.

One of the few things that spoiled the day was the weather, despite being fairly cool and nice for summer it did rain a little bit on and off, but it didn't stop us and we went full steam ahead regardless.

One thing i did notice was the absence of any real speech, where was the opening speech [guys]? [GUYS]?
We did have some talking over the megaphone at a few points but there wasn't anything really substantial, what happened to using the doombox for speeches? I have my doubts whether they can actually hear us outside the org/seaorg with just a megaphone.

Also it would seem we cranked the doombox too loud and ran out of batterys before the end. So moar batteries or less volume next time.

Also [fun]: I am sure many of you remember that hyper asian dude we picked up on the way to the sea org, did anyone actually talk to him and figure out what was going on? I have to say, I laughed pretty hard at his antics. (will post picture later)

So all in all, a great raid. Well done anons, Merry Christmas and a happy new year!
Will post pics later.

Edit:

Also on the 20th:

anon0004;658808 posted:

Hamburg Anons joined up the Munich and and Stuttgart Anons for thier Epic night march through Munich

Have a look

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/281-...many-34246/new/

Vir fucked around with this message at Dec 21, 2008 around 15:01

# ? Dec 21, 2008 04:37

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/285-...ntartica-34283/

frosted posted:

Sorry I was unable to plan this at all, you have no idea when you will be able to do things out here. Anyway I decided to raid the South Pole. Unfortunately I lack crew of any kind so I could not get more then two pics. I only ran into one person, the pole isn't a very active place...

Anyway Pictures.

The image stuff on the forums has no love - links to full size images.
Full size img1
Full size img2

Just making it a bit more GLOBAL

# ? Dec 21, 2008 16:10

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

Several "old guard" critics and anons are reporting that videos showing LA Scientology's in-house lawyer Kendrick Moxon, or videos showing people talking about him, are being removed from YouTube in droves after being up for a long time before.

A condition of continued ad-revenue from Scientology to Google, perhaps? Is this something a reporter would be interested in?

# ? Dec 24, 2008 02:00

GonadTheBallbarian: Jul 23, 2007; "Serious sport is war minus the shooting."

Vir posted:

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/285-...ntartica-34283/

Somebody get this man an Anon flag and have him plant it ASAP.

# ? Dec 25, 2008 01:10

BiggerJ: May 21, 2007; What shall we do with him? A permaban, perhaps? Probate him for a few years? Or...shall we employ a big red custom title? You, the goons of SA, shall decide his fate.

Vir posted:

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/285-...ntartica-34283/

I wonder how many continents that makes it now.

# ? Dec 26, 2008 07:13

Jut: May 16, 2005; May a drunk driver mow down my family and get away with it. Manslaughter's just an accident, man. I'd get over it.

I know it's still a while away but what's the plan for the 1 year anniversary of the anon protests? I'd love to see anon organise the biggest protests yet, celebrating all the win's so far over scientology.

# ? Dec 26, 2008 11:10

GonadTheBallbarian: Jul 23, 2007; "Serious sport is war minus the shooting."

BiggerJ posted:

I wonder how many continents that makes it now.

all of them.

In other news, bought my copy of The Complex today.. loving stoked to read it!

GonadTheBallbarian fucked around with this message at Dec 27, 2008 around 04:07

# ? Dec 27, 2008 04:04

Skinty McEdger: Mar 09, 2008; The Flaming Scotsman.

In todays copy of the UK's mail on Sunday its been reported that Cruise is living under armed guard due to death threats recieved from the anti-scientology group Anonymous. Now apparently the FBI are investigating Anonymous.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/tvsho...logy-group.html

# ? Dec 28, 2008 14:42

Jut: May 16, 2005; May a drunk driver mow down my family and get away with it. Manslaughter's just an accident, man. I'd get over it.

Skinty McEdger posted:

In todays copy of the UK's mail on Sunday its been reported that Cruise is living under armed guard due to death threats recieved from the anti-scientology group Anonymous. Now apparently the FBI are investigating Anonymous.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/tvsho...logy-group.html

gah, looks like the daily mail took a scientology press release and reported it as fact.

quote:

'The threats are perceived to be so great that the FBI has been alerted,’ said a source.

Yep, a scientology press release.
I'm just supprised there is no mention of anon stealing the british people's jobs and causing the value of their houses to drop :s

Jut fucked around with this message at Dec 28, 2008 around 16:04

# ? Dec 28, 2008 16:00

Pulled Pork Taco: Mar 27, 2008

Skinty McEdger posted:

In todays copy of the UK's mail on Sunday its been reported that Cruise is living under armed guard due to death threats recieved from the anti-scientology group Anonymous. Now apparently the FBI are investigating Anonymous.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/tvsho...logy-group.html

That's not exactly what the article said. It said the FBI had been alerted, in other words a complaint was made.

Exactly the kind of complaint that was made about Paulette Cooper, one assumes.

# ? Dec 28, 2008 16:01

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

Celebrities get death threats all the time; if they're real I hope law enforcement deals with them, as they should. Anonymous has inside "sources" too, and according to them, Cruise is really worried about the Scientology protestors overshadowing his movie premieres - they don't want a repeat in London of what happened in New York and LA where the reporters seemed more interested in the protestors than the movie. London anons are you ready to overshadow his premiere? And to act as his bodyguards if these threats turn out to be real?

Perhaps somebody should follow up on this FBI story and see if it's real? When CoS spokesthetan Tommy Davis said on CNN that the FBI were investigating anti-Scientology protestors for attacking epilepsy forums, CNN had already done their homework and got a statement from the FBI which showed that Davis was wrong.

Journalists? Anyone?

Back to the movie:
I had a look at the IMDb boards to see if there were any shitstorms there about this moderately successful WWII movie. And boy, either this poster should become a professional troll, or it's the living caricature of a Scientologist on the Internet:

Vir fucked around with this message at Dec 28, 2008 around 17:31

# ? Dec 28, 2008 17:23

clamiam: Mar 04, 2008; IF A ROBOT IS BUILT IN THE FORM OF HUMAN BEINGS IT IS HARAAM

Vir posted:

Back to the movie:
I had a look at the IMDb boards to see if there were any shitstorms there about this moderately successful WWII movie. And boy, either this poster should become a professional troll, or it's the living caricature of a Scientologist on the Internet:

Notice that "SP" is capitalized...is this a coincidence?

# ? Dec 28, 2008 17:49

glitchkrieg: Dec 10, 2004; "Paranoia is just reality on a finer scale."

Vir posted:

London anons are you ready to overshadow his premiere? And to act as his bodyguards if these threats turn out to be real?

I don't think London will be able to overshadow the the event. I know a lot of people have stopped taking part.

# ? Dec 28, 2008 18:00

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

glitchkrieg posted:

I don't think London will be able to overshadow the the event. I know a lot of people have stopped taking part.

New York only had - what? - 15 people? - and it was still enough to get the desired results without having to re-enact the final scene in the V for Vendetta movie.

# ? Dec 28, 2008 19:21

dj_clawson: Jan 12, 2004; We are all sinners in the eyes of these popsicle sticks.

Skinty McEdger posted:

In todays copy of the UK's mail on Sunday its been reported that Cruise is living under armed guard due to death threats recieved from the anti-scientology group Anonymous. Now apparently the FBI are investigating Anonymous.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/tvsho...logy-group.html

The FBI continually monitors and investigates Anonymous, and we always come up clean. Some of us are in regular contact with the FBI (every couple months) to answer questions and report personal threats made to us by the OSA.

# ? Dec 28, 2008 20:13

Pulled Pork Taco: Mar 27, 2008

glitchkrieg posted:

I don't think London will be able to overshadow the the event. I know a lot of people have stopped taking part.

We are still getting 50 or so for monthly protests, which is more than some cities had to start with.

We do intend to show for Valkyrie but everyone won't be able to make it. However we have had flashraids throughout the holidays, the most recent being today, shutting down stress test tables at the Trocadero.

Only the most insane are left and that's how we roll. Anyone is welcome to join. http://www.marcab.org has a loldon group.

# ? Dec 28, 2008 21:20

Jut: May 16, 2005; May a drunk driver mow down my family and get away with it. Manslaughter's just an accident, man. I'd get over it.

glitchkrieg posted:

I don't think London will be able to overshadow the the event. I know a lot of people have stopped taking part.

which is why we need to start recruiting again...a huge 1 year celebration (in clearwater, i dream).

# ? Dec 29, 2008 19:32

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

WhyWeProtest.org has been down for a few hours. I don't know when it'll be back up. [EDIT: It's up again]

http://marcab.org is recommended as an alternative communication hub until it comes back up again. Or look at the local forums:

http://www.anonymousresources.com/local-anonymous-cells

http://xenu.nu/wiki/index.php/Anonymous_Directory

Vir fucked around with this message at Dec 29, 2008 around 23:43

# ? Dec 29, 2008 21:10

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

Comiket (Comic Market) is one of the largest comic book conventions in the world, largely devoted to fan-created comic books but also having fully commercial publishers. It is held twice each year at TOKYO BIG SIGHT -Tokyo International Exhibition Center-.

It's a HUGE event.

and Anonymous was there, simply cosplaying into Comiket as
...
Anonymous

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/279-...postgame-34978/

Trev6 posted:

So, as per the plan, I went to the Tokyo Comike. I got lots of QR cards littered around the event area, and also in various shops, restaurants, and public bathrooms around Tokyo during event downtime. I also raided the cosplay area, thusly:

(...)

Kindred Spirits, yo!:

How much impact we actually had there is something only the future can tell. I overheard some people talking about Scientology once while I was at the Comike, so at least somebody found a card, scanned the QR code, and learned about the site. But only site traffic at xenu.jp will show how successful we were.

Before anybody busts out the champagne, though, I don't think the cosplay area appearance went as successfully as I'd hoped. I'd forgotten that A) Cosplay nerds are self-obsessed people who barely pay attention to anything besides themselves, and B) Most people want to take pictures of this:

So, really, if we want people to pay attention at this kind of event, we need to do this:

EDIT: inb4weaboofaggot

# ? Jan 01, 2009 02:51

Uglycat: Dec 04, 2000; A gimmick account that took on a horrible life of its own.

There's a couple encouraging stories up on ESMB of people who decided to leave following the Feb protests. Unfortunately, they're almost unreadable on account of being so full of sci-speak. Nonetheless, awesome stuff.

# ? Jan 02, 2009 06:45

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

Scientology has a new year's event which is pre-recorded and shown in all orgs at New Year's. David Miscavige has always been the MC at these events. You might remember him showing graphics of Scientology sending figurative hand grenades to government offices and vaxing about Global Oblitteration of psychiatry and "Apocalypse Now", as well as praising corporate sponsorships of Scientology programs without those corporations' knowledge.

The following is a rumor, but from several sources: David Miscavige was not hosting this year's event, but left the job to Tom Davis (famous for being Anne Archer's son, failing on CNN, and failing in the most recent Panorama documentary where BBC's man practiced Tone 40). It was taped in LA, but not in the the usual location. People were asking Where in the World is David Miscavige. Had he taken the money and run away? Then he was spotted at Flag in California attending the screening of the recorded event, so DM has been found.

A previous time where DM was oddly absent from an event like this was when the Lisa McPherson case was about to hit.

Is there some flap developing which requires DM's presence in Florida, or is he preparing to pass the baton to a new figurehead?

Vir fucked around with this message at Jan 02, 2009 around 07:01

# ? Jan 02, 2009 06:59

Uglycat: Dec 04, 2000; A gimmick account that took on a horrible life of its own.

Vir posted:

Is there some flap developing which requires DM's presence in Florida, or is he preparing to pass the baton to a new figurehead?

There seems to be speculation that Scientology may have lost a bundle in the recent pyramid-scheme that hit wall street. Apparently a number of celebs were taken in. No confirmation, strictly whispers.

# ? Jan 02, 2009 07:50

Eris Is Goddess: Nov 18, 2000; MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW
MEOW MEOW MEOW.
MEOW MEOW MEOW
MEOW MEOW ASSHOLE.

Uglycat posted:

There seems to be speculation that Scientology may have lost a bundle in the recent pyramid-scheme that hit wall street. Apparently a number of celebs were taken in. No confirmation, strictly whispers.

Oh my god yes.

# ? Jan 02, 2009 08:32

Mozzie: Oct 26, 2007

Uglycat posted:

There seems to be speculation that Scientology may have lost a bundle in the recent pyramid-scheme that hit wall street. Apparently a number of celebs were taken in. No confirmation, strictly whispers.

Merry Christmas

# ? Jan 02, 2009 08:32

Vir: Dec 14, 2007; Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

It's not like it hasn't happened before.

http://www.slatkinfraud.com/

quote:

Earthlink co-founder Reed Slatkin, an unregistered investment manager and ordained Scientology minister, admitted to defrauding clients of approximately 255 million dollars in a Ponzi-type investment scheme. Many of his victims were fellow Scientologists; others were wealthy investors with Hollywood connections.

I've also seen Scientologists pushing scams of their own, but I don't have any data on whether Scientologists are more or less prevalent among scams except for the scams run by CoS.

Edit:
When reading about Slatkin, I wonder why not more people understand how ironic it is that the symbol for Dianetics is a PYRAMID.

Vir fucked around with this message at Jan 02, 2009 around 10:01

# ? Jan 02, 2009 09:43

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