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Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

Ted Stevens posted:

Will work for booze. Honestly, if I can't even get booze out of a job, forget it. That's how I stayed un-sober in college.

I don't, because I powerlift with medium dedication and alcohol inhibits testosterone production.

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boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

Bob Morales posted:

I made the mistake of doing some work for a co-worker without discussing price. She said the Geek Squad wanted $150 and I said I could do it for 'quite a bit less'.

After the job was done, she gave me the standard "So what do I owe you?"

Before I could reply with "Well, I usually charge $50...", she interrupted with "Do you like meat? I just bough 50lbs of pork...."

I told her $30 would be fine. Ugh.

Hark! A dream sequence!

Hold on, let me check...
(whips out cell phone, makes BEEP BOOP NOISES while obviously not dialing anyone)
OH YES HELLO CHASE BANK CAN I PAY MY MORTGAGE IN PORK BUTT? WHAT'S THAT? GET THE gently caress OUTTA HERE, YOU SAY? AND YOU SAY PORK ISN'T A FUNGIBLE ASSET?
(making "can you believe these assholes" gesture to phone)
OK WELL THANKS CHASE BANK
Sorry, $50, same as in town.


Just now:
Oh, I've been assigned a ticket "user is having an issue with website..."
and it's about opening an excel file from a network share?

enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

When I meet new people now, and all my friends know this as well. . . I am not enotnert the computer guy, I am enotnert, a man who eeks out an earnest living repairing r-12 systems in 80-82 caprice estate station wagons.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

Maker Of Shoes posted:

I'd do side jobs for booze. Seriously. I drink a lot and that poo poo is expensive.

That used to be my standard fee for a callout or personal favor. I still think a single bottle of Oban 14 is a bit light for a trip to the office on Thanksgiving.

Verdugo
Jan 5, 2009


Bob Morales posted:

I made the mistake of doing some work for a co-worker without discussing price. She said the Geek Squad wanted $150 and I said I could do it for 'quite a bit less'.

After the job was done, she gave me the standard "So what do I owe you?"

Before I could reply with "Well, I usually charge $50...", she interrupted with "Do you like meat? I just bough 50lbs of pork...."

I told her $30 would be fine. Ugh.

I had a client try to pay me in zucchini once. Now I work out prices in advance.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007



Verdugo posted:

I had a client try to pay me in zucchini once. Now I work out prices in advance.

That's funny, because to anybody who grows zucchini, they're loving worthless. You get so many you can't give them away.

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

FISHMANPET posted:

That's funny, because to anybody who grows zucchini, they're loving worthless. You get so many you can't give them away.

There is, in fact, about twenty or thirty pounds of zucchini sitting in paper grocery bags in our lunch room right now. They've been sitting there for days, just like every time someone brings it in, because absolutely no one wants that much zucchini.

Honey Im Homme
Sep 3, 2009



So were having a parents evening at my school in 2 weeks and my boss has somehow got it into his head the parents will want to walk through our lovely backroom office to see the servers. He's tried to get this to happen for the past 2 and a half years but it never happened untill this time. I have no idea why he wants this to happen or what he think it will achieve. I'm pretty sure he just wants everyone who walks through the door to know he's the network manager and *this* is his network.

The place is a loving pig stuy and now he wants me to drop all my work and clean this poo poo up. See:


Click here for the full 1024x768 image.


The room is about 3 times the length seen there behind the camera. False wall with a classroom behind it on the left.

And what amazing things will they get to see when they round the corner to the right?


Click here for the full 526x1224 image.


WoooooooooooooooooooooooW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On top of all this I'm told it's compulsory I'm availible from 8am to 8pm with no pay past 4.30pm.

gently caress off

Honey Im Homme fucked around with this message at Sep 22, 2010 around 21:56

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

Honey Im Homme posted:

And what amazing things will they get to see when they round the corner to the right?

WoooooooooooooooooooooooW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


is that a toe tag?

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

Honey Im Homme posted:

On top of all this I'm told it's compulsory I'm availible from 8am to 8pm with no pay past 4.30pm.

gently caress off

Are you a member of the teacher's union ? No ? Put it on your timesheet, complain when it doesn't get paid.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003


mllaneza posted:

Are you a member of the teacher's union ? No ? Put it on your timesheet, file a lawsuit for millions when it isn't paid.

Nebulis01
Dec 30, 2003
Technical Support Ninny

mllaneza posted:

That used to be my standard fee for a callout or personal favor. I still think a single bottle of Oban 14 is a bit light for a trip to the office on Thanksgiving.

I'd do it for a bottle of Oban 32, that stuff is amazing.

Or maybe of bottle of Oban 18 and the '93 Distillers edition.

Nebulis01 fucked around with this message at Sep 22, 2010 around 23:03

frogbert
Jun 2, 2007


sanchez posted:

I would have taken the pork as long as it was $50 worth, pork is delicious.

I get 5kg of prawns and/or fish every time I fix a neighbours PC.

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard

Haha never had anything as bad as cookies. I've had plenty of nothing, but it's a bit like not leaving a tip being better than leaving 2p i.e. the cookies are more insulting (unless that's all they can afford, which as we know isn't the case)

Booze works for me. Thankfully when I think about it, although it's easy to only remember the one or two who barely know you and expect you to do everything as "a favour", most people around here are at least considerate enough to hand over some booze as I'm walking out. With those people I know it's ok to be nice beforehand if they ask what they owe, and respond with "ahh I wasn't here that long, get me a pint sometime / don't worry about it", because I know they probably have a bottle of something ready for that eventuality

I don't mind doing favours and being neighbourly when people don't take the piss - meaning they hand over some booze or something once in a while (with the exception of proper friends, obviously we just help each other out without thinking about it, I'm referring more to acquaintances and neighbours) and respect my free time enough not to be calling every 2 minutes. Part of it is a very British cultural thing - you don't officially "expect" anything, but you sort of... do. It's often applied to apologies here, they're often "not needed" but "actually they sort of are or we'll be all passive-aggressive about it later, but if you apologise then I'll tell you not to be silly". It's all very feminine, but it works.

Most seem to understand the unspoken sliding scale of a quick visit being a pint or a couple of cans/bottles, an hour being a pack (or a few pints round the local), a couple of hours a good box of the stuff or a decent bottle of wine, a few hours a decent blended whiskey, most of the day a good single malt (or a car boot full of beer). Longer is up for negotiation and getting into "okay, let's start thinking about being formal about it" territory though!

What, you sat through my entire post? Have a couple of cookies

GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at Sep 23, 2010 around 00:18

frogbert
Jun 2, 2007


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shredswithpiks
Jul 5, 2006
Blast! I need a goon account!

Honey Im Homme posted:

On top of all this I'm told it's compulsory I'm availible from 8am to 8pm with no pay past 4.30pm.

gently caress off

This is a good place to put your foot down. Without paid on-call rotationy, I might answer my phone when company calls but I'll probably be drunk

Negromancer
Nov 26, 2003
<3mini-moni+animu^_^



shredswithpiks posted:

This is a good place to put your foot down. Without paid on-call rotationy, I might answer my phone when company calls but I'll probably be drunk

While I do have a oncall rotation, they are known to call me no matter what for certain issues. This is why when I get off of being oncall I start drinking out of spite.

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003


I work on the neighbors' machines for free, but my skills match the salary.

I'm very sorry, but without the original CDs I can't restore the age-old laptop you tried to install a pirated copy of Windows XP on. Would you like the laptop back or should I just put it on a shelf somewhere while you dig around for the media?

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard

Crowley posted:

I'm very sorry, but without the original CDs I can't restore the age-old laptop you tried to install a pirated copy of Windows XP on. Would you like the laptop back or should I just put it on a shelf somewhere while you dig around for the media?

Agreed, this is what I say.

Yes I could try to download an identical version and do it legally that way (though downloading the actual disc image is illegal), which sometimes involves hacking the setup files to accept {Manufacturer}'s OEM keys and re-creating the disc, using the official key on the laptop base, having to activate it over the phone etc etc... what a palava. Half a day gone and me risking my arse on piratebay because they couldn't be bothered to keep the restore discs in a safe place. Sorry but losing the discs is your fault - go find, or go pay your £27.50 to Toshiba or whoever for replacement ones.

GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at Sep 23, 2010 around 09:48

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

less faggotry, more rs4.

Maker Of Shoes posted:

I'd do side jobs for booze. Seriously. I drink a lot and that poo poo is expensive.

This is the only reasonable compensation other than money

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 3, 2006


FISHMANPET posted:

When pork chops are on a bagel you can have pork chops anytime?

God drat this made my morning.

mng
Nov 18, 2006


Two cases of beer for fixing an insecure WiFi connection and hook up a printer? Sold!

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



enotnert posted:

When I meet new people now, and all my friends know this as well. . . I am not enotnert the computer guy, I am enotnert, a man who eeks out an earnest living repairing r-12 systems in 80-82 caprice estate station wagons.

Hey can you fly over to Wales and have a look at the aircon on my Cefiro that stopped blowing cold. I'm not sure if it's R12 or R134a and there are no English language manuals available for it, only Japanese and Thai, but I'll pay you a couple of leeks for your trouble.

(On a serious note, since the A/C is basically going to be the same as a 1993 240sx, do you know if that's R12 or R134a?, and if R12 what the best replacement gas is?)

Lum fucked around with this message at Sep 23, 2010 around 12:57

afflictionwisp
Aug 26, 2003

Following arrays have missing required members and cannot be configured.
ARRAY #0 RAID-5

No Logical Drives found.


Honey Im Homme posted:

So were having a parents evening at my school in 2 weeks and my boss has somehow got it into his head the parents will want to walk through our lovely backroom office to see the servers.

No, they won't. I can remember when I was in high school, the principal had this idea. They set aside a whole weekend specifically to allow parents to tour the school and see the network and computer setups. He was really serious about it, payed teachers to be there, got students to volunteer their time, sent home news letters, advertised in the newspaper every day for a week.

Not a single person showed up the entire time.

enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

Lum posted:

Hey can you fly over to Wales and have a look at the aircon on my Cefiro that stopped blowing cold. I'm not sure if it's R12 or R134a and there are no English language manuals available for it, only Japanese and Thai, but I'll pay you a couple of leeks for your trouble.

(On a serious note, since the A/C is basically going to be the same as a 1993 240sx, do you know if that's R12 or R134a?)

According to here it's r12. I'll tell you like I tell everyone. . . Unless you have a very very very specific reason to need R12 (like living in the middle east) go ahead and empty the system, get the converters and change it over to R134A. I don't know how hard R12 is to come by in your country, but I have a stash of around 20 old 12oz refill carts I found in a wrecked car that I had someone offer me ~$200 a pop for since R12 is more or less illegal in the states these days.

*edit*

Yes, I actually grew up working around a gas station/garage. It's still a family business. . . Right now I'm trying to figure out how to open the back hatch of the wifes jeep cause it had been sticking, and instead of informing me that one of the hydraulic arms that hold it up had come off the mount she just said "door broke" and now it's wedged shut with that stupid arm.

enotnert fucked around with this message at Sep 23, 2010 around 13:00

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



I think R12 is pretty much illegal worldwide because of the whole ozone layer thing, though they probably still make tons of it daily in China or somewhere.

I also thought there were better alternatives to R134a for converting old systems, and that R134a would risk leakages in an R12 system?

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have an oral fixation and it's not the sexy kind

Lum posted:

Hey can you fly over to Wales and have a look at the aircon on my Cefiro that stopped blowing cold. I'm not sure if it's R12 or R134a and there are no English language manuals available for it, only Japanese and Thai, but I'll pay you a couple of leeks for your trouble.

(On a serious note, since the A/C is basically going to be the same as a 1993 240sx, do you know if that's R12 or R134a?, and if R12 what the best replacement gas is?)

The US forced the switch to R134a in the '95 models, I'm guessing Europe was about the same. This seems to support that: http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/35915-r12-r134a.html

So I guess you get out that this one.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have an oral fixation and it's not the sexy kind

Lum posted:

I think R12 is pretty much illegal worldwide because of the whole ozone layer thing, though they probably still make tons of it daily in China or somewhere.

I also thought there were better alternatives to R134a for converting old systems, and that R134a would risk leakages in an R12 system?

It can eat some kinds of hoses, so those might need to be replaced too.

enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

Lum posted:

I think R12 is pretty much illegal worldwide because of the whole ozone layer thing, though they probably still make tons of it daily in China or somewhere.

I also thought there were better alternatives to R134a for converting old systems, and that R134a would risk leakages in an R12 system?

I've never seen any huge leakage problems. I know over here r134a is normally used because you can walk into any random auto parts store and get a recharger+oil in one package with a tip already on it for like $8.99. Unless you work HVAC other refrigerants are hard to come by in reasonable amounts.

The R12->R134a in my current car has never leaked. Only problem I had with it was the condenser went out once.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



Well I guess if I want to use R134a I'd better get it done quick as it's being banned in Europe next year (for new cars, not sure how long it will be around for recharges) and replaced with HFO-1234yf.

Any idea if that will work in my R12 system, thus allowing a bit more future proofing?

enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

Lum posted:

Well I guess if I want to use R134a I'd better get it done quick as it's being banned in Europe next year (for new cars, not sure how long it will be around for recharges) and replaced with HFO-1234yf.

Any idea if that will work in my R12 system, thus allowing a bit more future proofing?

I'd have to ask a proper HVAC guy, but generally speaking any refrigerant will work in any system. It's just have the proper connectors, and making sure that components aren't made out of something that the new refrigerant will eat through.

Honestly, just go find a decent mechanic, treat him like you would a fellow IT guy and offer up a few beers for some advice.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Microsoft Dynamics Navision Classic.

So many deadlocks.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



Sorry for the continued derail, but if you do have contacts in this area, what do you/they think of the hydrocarbon refrigerants such as HyChill HR12?

According to their marketing and to various forums posts it works better and more efficiently than the original R12 in these older cars. Meanwhile some detractors say it's about as sane as putting LPG into your aircon system.

enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

No clue, my uncle works in HVAC, but I haven't heard from him in a month or two. I'll ask him next time he rings me up.


SomethingAwful IT: We don't fix computers, just car air conditioners

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Your post is bad and you should feel bad.


HalloKitty posted:

This is the only reasonable compensation other than money

Being paid in guns work. Although I have been paid in $25 dollar gift certificates to a local gas station.

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard

Figured out how to get rid of Evevo market research

Hi I'm Elvis calling from Exevo how are you doing today sir

Oh gawd. I've told you to go away 3 times already today...

Great, sir. So if I can ask you a few questions

... okay then! I give in, ask away!

Thank you sir so first of all how many flatscreen monitors does your organisation have?

None.

.... er.... ok.... how many printers?

None.

...? ... no printers? Any computers?

None, we're just pen and paper here.

.... o... kay... you don't qualify for the study. Have a great day.

I am now! Bye!

Midelne
Jun 19, 2002

I shouldn't trust the phones. They're full of gas.

LakesGuzzler posted:

I am now! Bye!

When organizations refuse to stop calling no matter what, they have violated the social contract that requires you to treat them with some level of respect or answer their questions with any degree of honesty. The best way to celebrate this sundering is by explaining that you are unable to answer their questions because you do not speak English, preferably in clear English.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003

"This song is in Rock Band."

Naramyth posted:

Being paid in guns work. Although I have been paid in $25 dollar gift certificates to a local gas station.

My shop has a policy where we normally work on everything first come first serve, but if you want to get to the top of the queue you can pay out the nose. However, we have also accepted beer, pizza, chinese food, thai food, wine, whiskey, baked goods, etc.

frozenphil
Mar 13, 2003

YOU CANNOT MAKE A MISTAKE SO BIG THAT 80 GRIT CAN'T FIX IT!


All the grad students know that they can bring me some brownies and I will fix their poo poo as quick as I can. I have a soft spot for brownies.

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froglet
Nov 12, 2009


I get at least one of these calls per shift:

Hello, [ISP] tech support, froglet speaking.
Hi I'm the IT admin for [company], user name is [blah]. We're having a problem with slow speeds and I need to talk to your level 2 guys.
Level 2 are busy right now and I have to ask a few questions before I can escalate [starts standard troubleshooting].
I don't think you understand, I'm the IT admin for [company] and I have been through all this before calling you. This is a business, I am their IT guy and I need to speak to Level 2.
Just to clarify, is this account for a business?
Yes, it is.
Our records here show this account is a residential account. (I then explain that residential account owners can't jump the queue just because they know computers, and the direct number to Level 2 is a service provided to our business premium customers and where they can get further information about that service).

Customers don't seem to understand the concept of 'you get what you pay for'.

Oh and one more favourite of mine:

Hi I'm the owner/operator of [IT-oriented business] and we can't access certain websites.
Okay, what kind of setup do you have there?
Cisco
Unforuntately we are not permitted to troubleshoot Cisco equipment.
Yeah that's fine, I know that. What can we do, though?
We've found some users are having issues with MTU size. I would recommend changing it, and if that does not work I will escalate it to Level 2.
How do I do that?
Who set up your system?
Oh it was Steve, but he doesn't work here anymore.
Well you're going to need to find Steve or another person with knowledge of Cisco to change the MTU size within your router because we do not support it.
I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO HELP ME CHANGE IT I JUST WANT SOME TIPS ON HOW TO DO IT!

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