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Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013


Fifteen of Many posted:

Flamelurker

Is this one of the two bosses mentioned that gives people trouble because . I've almost killed him twice now (ended up grinding a couple of levels to get soul arrow on my lil soldier since straight melee seems to be right out) and am using the pillars to play keep away. Does he have some kind of berserk when he's low HP? It seems like my last couple of tries he's one or two soul arrows away from dead but he goes into this frantic combo mode where it's just nothing but fire all the time and I'm stunned until dead.

You want a really high upgraded weapon for him, with some SWS slathered on it for more damage.

Though there is a trick if you have enough spice with them Soul Arrows. When you start the fight,goad him towards you. Then, run past him to the stairwell behind him, run up it, and place yourself in the back corner behind the debris. You may have to do this a few times, but when you do it right, it shatters his AI and you're free to hit him with ranged attacks with impunity. Just be ready to dodge out of the way and restart the cycle if his AI fixes itself for a second.

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Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010


lordfrikk posted:

I actually killed Flamelurker on my first try as a melee guy, but I think I used about 50 crescent moon grasses in the process Using the sticky white stuff (eww) helped a lot.

He's not really that hard, especially if you're going into it from Dark Souls 1/2. Dunno that I've ever died to him even though he's like the only boss I've never cheesed, the true boss is the shortcut down the shaft. But yeah, Flamelurker and the final boss of Boletaria are the two people tend to get stuck on.

Also the intro music in Demon's Souls is great. It has the best intro cutscene, the best lore, the best aesthetic, the best hub, and the best opening areas. 1-1 is way better than the burg or the forest.

KaneTW
Dec 2, 2011

Jones killed Solaire! How could she.



He was really easy with a Sticky Compound Long Bow but that's basically cheating.

Fifteen of Many
Feb 23, 2006


I think some of the problem I was having initially was that the speed with which he can close the gaps on you made it hard to learn his pattern without him turning around and stun-lock killing me. Once I stuck a pillar between us it was better, although I'm still not sure how I'd manage mano y mano without some kind of exploitas a pure melee. It seemed like when I got close enough and on his side enough to hit him once, by the time my attack animation was wrapping up he was winding up for the next round of murder with very little downtime.

Either way, he's dead. Good God, Fool's Idol was such a pushover after lurker.

Fifteen of Many fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2014 around 03:14

v1ld
Apr 16, 2012


Fifteen of Many posted:

I'm still not sure how I'd manage mano y mano as a pure melee. It seemed like when I got close enough and on his side enough to hit him once, by the time my attack animation was wrapping up he was winding up for the next round of murder with very little downtime.

My 1st run was pure melee and this fight eventually devolved to getting enough strength to keep the Purple Flame Shield between us at all times. The better melee strategy is to use the big explosion AOE as opening to go to town with whatever two-handed weapon of choice.

There was one video response to a Flamelurker no-shields challenge on youtube that had some speedrunner doing perfectly timed rolls through the AOE attack. I can't find it anymore, pity, but does anyone know the vid I'm talking about? This other one's pretty good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORi1f463WeM

lordfrikk
Mar 11, 2010

casual lamer


I just did it as without a shield because I didn't want to look up where to obtain one with fire resistance, and it's relatively simple once you get the roll timings down pat. Fume Knight taught me well

lordfrikk
Mar 11, 2010

casual lamer


Alright, yesterday I finished the last world (Valley of Defilement) and I have to say 5-2 is my least favourite of all the iterations of the poisonous swamp area archetype. From the most likeable to least likeable it's: Blighttown, Gutter and Valley of Defilement. To be precise, though, it's only the second area that I dislike because you can't see too far at all, so you're sort of wandering around. And then there's the meat cleaver black phantom that can roll while you can't and when you do you get stuck in the unable-to-roll animation and probably killed.

I'm really glad they decided to ditch the item encumbrance in the later Souls games. I will concede it made me use the stash for the first time and I actually had to think what to take with me in order to have space for armors I might find (goodbye Brushwood Armor).

Some of the boss runs where amazingly agonizing. Maneater was probably the worst because the black phantom Mindflayer is a super-dick. The regular ones are easy enough but he left little space in between casts for me to attack, I think he actually killed me more times than the boss, welp. I ended up casting Warding and wrecked him with Quality Kijil+5 with SWS.

Penetrator's twin pirouette never ceased to botch up my roll and get hit. Dirty Colossus and Leechmonger were probably the easiest bosses, Old Hero and Old Monk weren't hard at all, too. Maiden Astraea was an amazing encounter, more of those (I'm glad I was smart enough to take a bunch of Widow's Lotuses with me, I was expecting something to give me plague any minute once I found it).

The last thing I did was try to kill Old King Doran but he's a seriously buff guy, once he wielded his sword in two hands the proverbial poo poo hit the fan. I emerged victorious in the end but it was one of the most nerve-wrecking fights I had in the game.

In terms of weapons and armor, I ended up using the starting Rapier along with Kilij and Uchigatana (but mostly the first two). I crafted the Meat Cleaver but didn't like the moveset at all (tbh I didn't like any of the heavy weapon movesets, too many vertical smashes for my taste). I brought the fashion souls mindset with me to DeS so I just ended up wearing what looked best: Three-cornered Hat (seriously the best looking wizard-y hat in all the Souls games), Rogue's Clothes and Rogue's Boots and Silver Bracelet.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010


While I agree that the poison swamp sucks, unless you go off the incredibly obvious trail there is no getting lost or wandering around. There is some nice stuff out there though (I believe the item you need to make the Blueblood Sword is being guarded by that Meat Cleaver phantom, plus the Large Sword of Moonlight is a pure white tendency event).

You can poison Doran.

Also the vertical attacks are the best part of any big weapon so you're a crazy person. You can stunlock or outright kill nearly everything with that.

neetengie
Jul 17, 2013

Shittiest taste in anime and video games.


Manatee Cannon posted:

While I agree that the poison swamp sucks, unless you go off the incredibly obvious trail there is no getting lost or wandering around. There is some nice stuff out there though (I believe the item you need to make the Blueblood Sword is being guarded by that Meat Cleaver phantom, plus the Large Sword of Moonlight is a pure white tendency event).

You can poison Doran.

Also the vertical attacks are the best part of any big weapon so you're a crazy person. You can stunlock or outright kill nearly everything with that.
No, there are some items behind Meat Cleaver girl, but you can find the item for the Blueblood Sword pretty easily in multiple places.

Also while Valley of Defilement makes you slow as poo poo, have the Regen Ring on and your HP will drain really, really slowly.
e: Well slower than usual, the poison HP drain is already pretty slow compared to Dark Souls.

neetengie fucked around with this message at Sep 17, 2014 around 17:04

v1ld
Apr 16, 2012


lordfrikk posted:

Maneater was probably the worst because the black phantom Mindflayer is a super-dick. The regular ones are easy enough but he left little space in between casts for me to attack, I think he actually killed me more times than the boss, welp. I ended up casting Warding and wrecked him with Quality Kijil+5 with SWS.

Maneater's majesty is not dimmed by some random mindflayer you should be backstabbing, black, blue or red phantomed it be.

Maneater is the reason for Warding and Second Chance being in this game.

Maneater is the reason they let invaders play the final boss - they wanted to make it easy in comparison, like all the other final levels.

quote:

Penetrator's twin pirouette never ceased to botch up my roll and get hit.

Biorr had a twin, but doesn't pirouette.

lordfrikk
Mar 11, 2010

casual lamer


neetengie posted:

Also while Valley of Defilement makes you slow as poo poo, have the Regen Ring on and your HP will drain really, really slowly.
e: Well slower than usual, the poison HP drain is already pretty slow compared to Dark Souls.

Yeah, this is the only thing that made it bearable for me. I think the regen ring is a bit too good, no wonder they mostly did away with it in the later games. Warding is way too good as well, it makes most of the bosses a complete joke.

Gann Jerrod
Sep 9, 2005

A gun isn't a gun unless it shoots Magic.


I agree, I think I might have made it too easy with my Blessed Mirdan Hammer build. As long as I slap on the Adjudicator's shield in between fights, I'm usually back to full heath by the next encounter.

Sheep-Goats
Jul 28, 2003



I've been enjoying watching a German named Dante and some probably chubby goth chick named Holly play through Demon's Souls. They're doing everything coop so of course there are parts that they should suffer badly on but do okay just by spamming R1 attacks (they both quickly settle on using their Dragon Long Swords so they get extra stagger that way too), but they are going at things blind and aren't using magic. The loving tears that Stonefang tunnel produced were great. Really great. Also Dante has the worst Demon's Souls intuition of anyone I've ever seen so he's often getting told to do something by his phantom, which is the right thing to do, and he ignores it and keeps bashing his head into a wall.

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?li...y6lhl1i5zCheXNg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J13r2W9VyKM#t=2068s

This cuts to the Flamelurker meltdown so if you don't want to hear a German yell at a videogame in English don't click it. Their first tries at Tower Knight were also hilariously bad.

Sheep-Goats fucked around with this message at Sep 18, 2014 around 11:59

Read
Dec 21, 2010



On a related note, Kay of Kay Plays did a Demon's Souls run a while back. Not sure if it was posted here but it's wonderful.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu...LRVEjF8viOEjm9g

e: There's a screamer (this is still a thing apparently??) in the first like 20s of the next episode of that guy's LP, if anyone is bothered by those.

Read fucked around with this message at Sep 18, 2014 around 18:12

lordfrikk
Mar 11, 2010

casual lamer


Since we're recommending vids, I think you would enjoy someone talking at length about Demon's Souls. The guy's name is Matthewmatosis and his commentary is very insightful and intelligently put. There is no screaming, memes or poo poo like that, but I guarantee it is worth your time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLItPEpkK7A

I even went and watched his other videos, they are all equally good. He also did one for DSII but none for DS1 as far as I know.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend


Two recs for LPs and neither is fellow goon WanderingNewbie's? Shame on y'all.

EC fucked around with this message at Sep 18, 2014 around 22:49

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010


That shouldn't even be necessary, when looking for an LP you should always check the LP Archive first.

Sheep-Goats
Jul 28, 2003



EC posted:

Two recs for LPs and neither is fellow goon WanderingNewbie's? Shame on y'all.

Squint uber alles

I liked the Wandering Newbie episode where he got killed like six times in a row by the invader. I tried to invade him a few times but never got through.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend


Sheep-Goats posted:

Squint uber alles

I liked the Wandering Newbie episode where he got killed like six times in a row by the invader. I tried to invade him a few times but never got through.

Pretty sure that was LotusGramarye, aka Genocyber.

VERY GOOD

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012
Actually thinks Borderlands 2 is well written.


EC posted:

Pretty sure that was LotusGramarye, aka Genocyber.

VERY GOOD

He got fairly mad cause I kept knocking him off Latria with the Stormruler.

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Sheep-Goats
Jul 28, 2003



Right through his stupid spell spamming phantom and everything. I was SO HAPPY

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