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I'd be fine with Frozen Flames being limited to Frostlings if their class supports could be Pledged. And if Frostling Phalanx got Pledge of Protection.
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May 25, 2015 21:44
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Gerblyn posted:Yes, you can steal almost anything, including debuffs. I explicitly blocked some things (you used to be able to steal Overload, for example) but not very many. I did this to myself earlier when I was testing things out. Got 10 stacks of despair on something and then stole them all to put on my own reanimator.  e: For anyone that has done the necro campaign, does your alignment choice at the end of map 2 affect the story, or is that just your choices in the last map? I never liked the other campaigns but for some reason I'm finding this one much more fun. Carnalfex fucked around with this message at 23:24 on May 25, 2015 |
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May 25, 2015 23:17
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Carnalfex posted:I did this to myself earlier when I was testing things out. Got 10 stacks of despair on something and then stole them all to put on my own reanimator. The choice you make at the end of map two determines your specializations going into the last map, either Grey Guard or Shadowborn Master. I don't believe it has any story impact.
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May 25, 2015 23:30
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psudonym55 posted:Currently busy for the next few days but will be free from Wednesday onwards, pick a day and time and I'll be there. I cant know for sure within a day of advancce for the enxt few weeks whether i have free time but i'll try to let you know
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May 25, 2015 23:54
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When a Bone Collector eats a corpse, is it healed for 20 hp, then gains 20 max hp, or does it just gain the max hp? That is, on an injured Bone Collector, does eating a corpse function as +40 hp?
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May 26, 2015 07:17
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ninjewtsu posted:When a Bone Collector eats a corpse, is it healed for 20 hp, then gains 20 max hp, or does it just gain the max hp? The unit heals 20hp, then gets + max 20hp. When a unit's max HP goes up, the system scales their current HP up so they still have the same proportion of HP left. So, if a unit has lost 50% of it's HP, and it gets +20 max HP, it heals for 10hp at the same time. Also, I just checked for the damage calculation: 1) Attack value calculated (bonuses for slayer and charge are added, for example) 2) Target defenses calculated (bonuses for shield are added) 3) Attack and Defense are combined to get base damage (so, 15 attack vs 11 defense becomes 14 base damage) 4) The system applies the 20% random damage spread (here the system does normal rounding, so 0.4 = 0 and 0.5 = 1) 5) The system applies a multiplier to the damage value that combines the line of sight penalty, ranged penalty and the fumble penalty/critical bonus. The multipliers are multiplied together, not added (so 50% damage falloff and 50% LOS penalty becomes a 75% reduction). The result of this is rounded up. 6) The system applies multipliers for damage resistance/weakness. These results are also rounded up. So, the system rounds 3 times during a standard damage calculation.
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May 26, 2015 09:13
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Thanks! Can a link to this maybe go in the op? This is pretty useful information for the theorycrafter and number cruncher players that isn't given anywhere else, it would be a disservice if it was buried.
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May 26, 2015 16:22
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So I played Orange last night and he rolled Tigran Necro as a sort of joke. Evidently I waited too long to laugh because he was one-turning 71 hp Prowlers among other things. That's pretty hard to deal with if you let it happen. He also turned the entire middle of the map into a no-man's land of razed cities which he could later resurrect if it suited him. That's a pretty neat strategic option and he was able to resurrect at least one city quite sneakily. Anyway I'm improving every time I get to play, so thanks for the game. It's a lot harder to be smart with your army in multiplayer.
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May 26, 2015 19:21
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Yeah, I'm starting to get a handle on necro. They're not a class where your class units do the heavy lifting - the real attraction is are your normal racial units, which you can medal higher and buff stronger than almost anyone. The class units are situational and best used as debuffing powerhouses and/or healing. I did have a decent amount of luck in that game, and honestly, what won it for me had nothing to do with *Tigran* necromancer but the fact that I ghouled a *Goblin* city for the sweet, sweet Swarm Darter counter to High Elves. Dark Gift is super awesome, by the way, and it's worth it to get your CPs up to 50 so you can cast it without your leader.
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May 26, 2015 19:39
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Gerblyn posted:Thanks! In theory, there are only 2 valid ways a concealed unit can get hit by roamers: Sent you a save. The unit in question is a lost soul hiding in a blighted forest on the eastern edge of the explored area. I've reloaded the autosave several times and it gets sniped by the scoundrel stack every time. It's got some movepoints left, so you can try moving it to another position and watch the scoundrels hunt it down. Hope it helps. edit: Some additional info: The next turn i sent that lost soul into the domain of the AI rogue, (i moved it across the river so the scoundrels wouldn't get it after i sent that save) and it gave me a message saying that trespassing would incur a relations penalty if the unit is seen.  Sure enough, the next turn, the AI bitched about my units in its domain and i took a relation hit for trespassing.  So, not sure if that helps or not, but it seems to me the game code is actually flagging it as visible, not just the all-seeing AI always knowing where everything is. Anyway, now that i'm done investigating possible bugs, it's time to make a graveyard and call it peace  Sjonnar fucked around with this message at 21:36 on May 26, 2015 |
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May 26, 2015 21:09
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Sjonnar posted:Sent you a save. The unit in question is a lost soul hiding in a blighted forest on the eastern edge of the explored area. I've reloaded the autosave several times and it gets sniped by the scoundrel stack every time. It's got some movepoints left, so you can try moving it to another position and watch the scoundrels hunt it down. Hope it helps. Thanks, I'll check it out!
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May 26, 2015 21:57
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Gerblyn posted:The unit heals 20hp, then gets + max 20hp. When a unit's max HP goes up, the system scales their current HP up so they still have the same proportion of HP left. So, if a unit has lost 50% of it's HP, and it gets +20 max HP, it heals for 10hp at the same time. Thanks for the info Gerblyn!
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May 26, 2015 23:11
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One annoyance with necromancer in multiplayer is how everyone can surrender the fight as soon as they do all the damage they can to your troops before you can get your cadavar snowball rolling.
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May 26, 2015 23:21
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:One annoyance with necromancer in multiplayer is how everyone can surrender the fight as soon as they do all the damage they can to your troops before you can get your cadavar snowball rolling. Maybe they can grey-out the 'surrender' button after the first action is taken each turn, then? It does seem a little (and I hate using this word) unfair to be able to use your turn to run up and do serious damage or even eliminate a unit, and then surrender in order to deny the opponent any xp. If you take any actions on your turn, you should probably be committed to not surrendering until the start of your next turn.
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May 26, 2015 23:27
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Is that any different than doing that to deal damage then prevent conversion/seduction/etc.? (not that I actually think it's fair; maybe have some % chance to cadaver/seduce/etc. upon surrender?)
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May 26, 2015 23:42
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Sounds like a pretty dickish thing to do regardless of class. Fight, or surrender, but abusing surrender like that is kinda ugly, IMO.
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May 26, 2015 23:49
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madmac posted:Sounds like a pretty dickish thing to do regardless of class. Fight, or surrender, but abusing surrender like that is kinda ugly, IMO. Seems to be a common tactic in multiplayer when they can't win the fight to just do all the damage they can then surrender immediately to deny exp. I do like the suggestion of greying out surrender if you took a action that turn so you'd at least have a retaliation turn after the suicide rush before they can surrender to mop up their army and revive anything as a necro.
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Taking a full turn of actions into a surrender definitely sounds like an obnoxious multiplayer edge case.
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Voyager I posted:Taking a full turn of actions into a surrender definitely sounds like an obnoxious multiplayer edge case. Less of an edge case than an abuseable mechanic that no one ever bothered even thinking to use against a cpu, since no one loses battles to a cpu that matter. Either you stomp them flat or you let them bloat so much that they have infinite armies, you never really get into a situation where spitting in their eye and suiciding would matter. If the game is fairly close it can make a difference, you just don't really see close games against cpus. It sounds like it would be easy to prevent either way though, kind of a reverse of the "battle draws if no one takes damage for 5 turns". If someone takes damage, suicide turns off.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I do like the suggestion of greying out surrender if you took a action that turn so you'd at least have a retaliation turn after the suicide rush before they can surrender to mop up their army and revive anything as a necro.
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How does everyone play their games versus the AI? I've been playing on king with 6 opponents and 55 seals to victory, and I rarely get a chance to use T4s. I'm simply curious to see how others play settings wise.
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Tend to go with Emperor AI and 4-6 on a medium map depending on underground on or off. They usually end around turn 55-70. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 12:26 on May 27, 2015 |
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Kinetica posted:How does everyone play their games versus the AI? I've been playing on king with 6 opponents and 55 seals to victory, and I rarely get a chance to use T4s. I'm simply curious to see how others play settings wise. Since I enjoy exploring and building, I play extra large maps w/ seal victory (70 seals) and diplomacy enabled. It makes for super long games - like several days - but you get the full array of units/abilities/spells to play with and can even build up dwellings. Granted, your main hero stacks are so powerful it's possible to auto resolve the hardest mythical lairs - but like most 4x games (and EU) I rarely finish a game anyway. Blackluck fucked around with this message at 13:25 on May 27, 2015 |
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Kinetica posted:How does everyone play their games versus the AI? I've been playing on king with 6 opponents and 55 seals to victory, and I rarely get a chance to use T4s. I'm simply curious to see how others play settings wise. Campaign (which I've still never finished), or else I'm testing an MP build so 1v1 medium/king, where if I even bother to finish it's typically before turn 50. Also, has anyone played World of Magic lately? It's on sale through today, and while I know it was rough on release has it got any better since to justify picking it up?
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orangelex44 posted:Campaign (which I've still never finished), or else I'm testing an MP build so 1v1 medium/king, where if I even bother to finish it's typically before turn 50. Can't say I'm a fan yet. I tried a quick game on my friend's computer and it's still not all that great.
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Kinetica posted:How does everyone play their games versus the AI? I've been playing on king with 6 opponents and 55 seals to victory, and I rarely get a chance to use T4s. I'm simply curious to see how others play settings wise. I like to play with 3 King opponents (4 if there is underground) on medium maps with standard seal victory conditions. The games usually take somewhere between 50-80 turns, and I'd have T4s around turn 50. Around 40 if I'm lucky...
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orangelex44 posted:Also, has anyone played World of Magic lately? It's on sale through today, and while I know it was rough on release has it got any better since to justify picking it up? I last played it around 3 weeks ago. At that point, there were still a ton of graphical glitches, some random crashes, assorted UI bugs, and all sorts of balance issues, over and above the decidedly sub-par graphics. I can't see any possibility that they've made the game playable yet, especially when they replied to my negative review by basically saying "we're so busy adding new features that it's adding new bugs faster than we can fix them", although they did promise me that all the bugs would rapidly disappear once they're done adding new features. (Bonus note: They had already patched the game *19* times by that point.)
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Taliesyn posted:they did promise me that all the bugs would rapidly disappear once they're done adding new features. hahahahahaha
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ninjewtsu posted:hahahahahaha My thoughts exactly!
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Good to know. I'll save my pennies then, and see what it looks like when it's on sale again in six months.
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Has anyone ever used summoner's aura? The sorc city defensive enchant that buffs and heals summoned units while inside the city domain?
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May 28, 2015 00:03
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Once, just to fully heal my army as I was passing through a captured city, it's good to keep the momentum if you don't have enough apprentices to heal the eldritch abominations and phantasms.
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Hey guys in my bracket: sorry I've been pretty AFK the last week or so but I've been busy with work, family events, and discovering that my 5 1/2 year old gaming PC can indeed run the Witcher 3. I'll be looking to get a match or two in over the next two days (Thurs and Fri) if anyone still needs to get some games done.
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May 28, 2015 01:56
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So does anyone know how long High Elf Shaman and Apprentices have been using Shock Sister idle animations?
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Gerblyn please do not change this Fight as hard as you can to keep this in place
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May 28, 2015 03:49
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copying from the official forums:quote:We have finally moved the Tutorial Campaign to Open Beta! Mind you, the patch isn't up yet so they may have jumped the gun a bit with those notes. :p madmac fucked around with this message at 13:46 on May 28, 2015 |
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May 28, 2015 13:38
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Dat post release support
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May 28, 2015 13:52
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OK, now it's live! http://ageofwonders.com/forums/topic/update-v1-52-patch-notes/page/9/#post-205760
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quote:Fixed an issue where you could cast Inspect Plague on another player’s city without triggering a war declaration Exalted Evangelist combo is going to be scary now. I know you keep saying you're short on time, but how much longer is this patch going to be in beta? (Also guys, this is the last planned patch for a while, so if you have feedback to get in, now's the time.) madmac fucked around with this message at 15:18 on May 28, 2015 |
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