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PantsOptional posted:No, that's still Superman III. Superman IV contributed nothing of value. He has super-fixbrokenwall vision.
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# ? Sep 4, 2014 20:08 |
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zoux posted:I like to read about horribly troubled productions so it gave us that So do I! Is there a particular place where we could read about it?
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# ? Sep 4, 2014 20:27 |
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Unlucky7 posted:So do I! Is there a particular place where we could read about it? http://www.agonybooth.com/recaps/Superman_IV__The_Quest_for_Peace_1987.aspx There's a bit about it here on this retrospective on Cannon Films: http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/cannon-films/27317/the-rise-and-fall-of-cannon-films zoux fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Sep 4, 2014 |
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zoux posted:Per our discussion yesterday, if you really wanna gently caress up your kids show them Superman III That scene scared the poo poo out of me as a kid.
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# ? Sep 4, 2014 21:09 |
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Madkal posted:That would be so right and so wrong at the same time. Because then everyone would be wondering why Shazam wasn't calling Black Adam a punk and giving him a death sentence.
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# ? Sep 4, 2014 23:26 |
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I don't care if it is or isn't, but it seems like Shazam isn't connected to MoS/BvS? Actually, I do care.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 00:47 |
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omg chael crash posted:I don't care if it is or isn't, but it seems like Shazam isn't connected to MoS/BvS? It sounds like it is, it just won't directly cross over with those films.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 01:13 |
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bobkatt013 posted:He has super-fixbrokenwall vision. He also stops a volcanic eruption by cutting off the top of a mountain, turning it upside down and dropping it onto the volcano like he corks a bottle. Makes me think that all the people complaining that Superman didn't do enough Supermanly things in Man of Steel should just watch Superman IV, he practically never stops saving people in that movie.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 09:22 |
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Supermanly things = lifting and bending things.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 12:47 |
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Also, tearing phone books in half and shaving with a hunting knife/bone shard.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 12:51 |
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Grendels Dad posted:Also, tearing phone books in half and shaving with a hunting knife/bone shard. This is the most Supermanly way to shave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvkDcrbLP2s
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 13:19 |
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That is not how mirrors work! Unless his bathroom mirror is made from his space ship he came in as a baby. The silver age expansion would be he has a clone trapped in a mirror dimension to help him shave, or he shoots miniature super men from his hand and those use their heat vision.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 13:28 |
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greatn posted:That is not how mirrors work! God, that drove me nuts as a kid. He gets his superpowers from the sun, but why the hell is everything from Krypton indestructible on Earth?
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 13:29 |
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Modern movie era shaving would be Superman has a beard but then Batman tells him his beard is stupid and the beard retreats and Superman cries because holy poo poo you guys Batman is that awesome.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 13:32 |
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Has Superman always been powered by the sun? I could have sworn that wasn't a thing when I read Superman comics when I was a child, or at least it wasn't heavily focused on.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 13:32 |
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Grendels Dad posted:Has Superman always been powered by the sun? I could have sworn that wasn't a thing when I read Superman comics when I was a child, or at least it wasn't heavily focused on. No, in the original origin Superman's powers were just the result of his species. They used a "he comes from a planet that is super-large and has immense gravity" explanation after a while. The Earth's Yellow Sun explanation came along later. However unless you're in your 80s, Superman's powers being the result of the sun would have been around when you were reading comics.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 13:44 |
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Grendels Dad posted:Has Superman always been powered by the sun? I could have sworn that wasn't a thing when I read Superman comics when I was a child, or at least it wasn't heavily focused on. Yes, originally he was just 'more evolved', hence the "Man of Tomorrow" moniker. The development of Superman's powers are actually pretty interesting, like being able to fly because Fleischer ask since it was easier to animate, or his heat vision simple being him "concentrating" his x-rays into a single beam. edit: After a quick trip to wikipedia, Superman has been getting his powers from the sun since the '60s. e X fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Sep 5, 2014 |
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In my 30's so I probably just missed it. Thanks.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 14:02 |
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It wasn't that important a plot point in non comic media until maybe the 90s. I don't think Reeve or Reeves ever worried about the sun, not sure if Dean Stockwell had to worry about it. It didn't show up in TV til the animated series I think, and not in movies til returns. It was a thing in comics but not really common pop culture knowledge until recently.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 14:48 |
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greatn posted:It wasn't that important a plot point in non comic media until maybe the 90s. I don't think Reeve or Reeves ever worried about the sun, not sure if Dean Stockwell had to worry about it. It didn't show up in TV til the animated series I think, and not in movies til returns. Dean Cain, surely?
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:02 |
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greatn posted:It wasn't that important a plot point in non comic media until maybe the 90s. I don't think Reeve or Reeves ever worried about the sun, not sure if Dean Stockwell had to worry about it. It didn't show up in TV til the animated series I think, and not in movies til returns. In Superman 2 Zod realizes that its the sun that gives him power when he is on the moon. Then in Superman 4 Superman moves the planet since Nuclear Man's weakness is darkness.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:08 |
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Yeah Superman getting his powers from the sun (and then subsequently storing said power in his body for when the sun wasn't there) isn't anything new and has been a thing for ages. It's just more recently it's been used as a second wind/powering up in battle when he's getting his rear end handed to him.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:12 |
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Superman has to burn himself to get rid of hair. Sure hope he doesn't have to do any manscaping.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:12 |
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bobkatt013 posted:In Superman 2 Zod realizes that its the sun that gives him power when he is on the moon. Then in Superman 4 Superman moves the planet since Nuclear Man's weakness is darkness. I thought he moved the moon to create an eclipse? I think I was distracted at the time trying to figure out why Mariel Hemingway wasn't busy exploding or suffocating in the vacuum of space.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:21 |
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Lobok posted:Superman has to burn himself to get rid of hair. Sure hope he doesn't have to do any manscaping. On my planet the S stands for Smooth.
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PantsOptional posted:I thought he moved the moon to create an eclipse? I think I was distracted at the time trying to figure out why Mariel Hemingway wasn't busy exploding or suffocating in the vacuum of space. Yes it was the moon. It was stupid no matter what. Trying to remember that movie can cause brain damage.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:25 |
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PantsOptional posted:I thought he moved the moon to create an eclipse? I think I was distracted at the time trying to figure out why Mariel Hemingway wasn't busy exploding or suffocating in the vacuum of space. I think there was another scene where Superman had her in his arms in space and Nucular man attacked him, and she dangled on his hand, about to fall back to earth. From space. I don't know much about gravitation and whatnot, but that was hella stupid even to kid me.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:31 |
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Lobok posted:Superman has to burn himself to get rid of hair. Sure hope he doesn't have to do any manscaping. Superman having chest hair in Man of Steel was something Cavill actually requested.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:35 |
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Grendels Dad posted:I think there was another scene where Superman had her in his arms in space and Nucular man attacked him, and she dangled on his hand, about to fall back to earth. From space. I don't know much about gravitation and whatnot, but that was hella stupid even to kid me. A bigger challenge would be finding something that the movie did right.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:38 |
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bobkatt013 posted:A bigger challenge would be finding something that the movie did right. I liked that Superman gave a museum one of his hairs to educate people how insanely powerful he is. Also the hair is really long, as far as I remember.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:41 |
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Grendels Dad posted:I liked that Superman gave a museum one of his hairs to educate people how insanely powerful he is. Also the hair is really long, as far as I remember. And the weight says 1000 lbs on it.
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Grendels Dad posted:Also the hair is really long, as far as I remember. eww.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:49 |
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Gathering up the worlds nuclear weapons and throwing them into the sun is like the first thing I'd do if I had Superman powers and I dunno why he's ever only done it once in a terrible movie and only because Christopher Reeve insisted on it. That's...not from his head.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:50 |
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zoux posted:Gathering up the worlds nuclear weapons and throwing them into the sun is like the first thing I'd do if I had Superman powers and I dunno why he's ever only done it once in a terrible movie and only because Christopher Reeve insisted on it. You mean besides it would be Superman placing his will on the world instead of them doing it themselves? Once he does that he will soon be wearing the Super-pope hat.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:55 |
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bobkatt013 posted:You mean besides it would be Superman placing his will on the world instead of them doing it themselves? Once he does that he will soon be wearing the Super-pope hat. I'm confused, you say this like it's a bad thing.
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Getting rid of all guns was indeed something Injustice Superman did. And he's basically Super-pope.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 15:59 |
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bobkatt013 posted:You mean besides it would be Superman placing his will on the world instead of them doing it themselves? Once he does that he will soon be wearing the Super-pope hat. This would also happen if I was Superman.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 16:00 |
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bobkatt013 posted:You mean besides it would be Superman placing his will on the world instead of them doing it themselves? Once he does that he will soon be wearing the Super-pope hat. I'd be down with that. Who doesn't want a Space Pope?
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 16:00 |
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Lurdiak posted:Getting rid of all guns was indeed something Injustice Superman did. And he's basically Super-pope. drat. I never noticed that the symbol on the flag is the same one used in Injustice. That's a nice callback. EDIT: Aw gently caress. That's not the original. I'm a big stupid.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 16:07 |
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Lurdiak posted:Getting rid of all guns was indeed something Injustice Superman did. And he's basically Super-pope. I like how Hal is bringing Supes a burger while everyone else has jewels. Kal-El the merciless will not be pleased. If I was Superman I'd gather up all the Right Wing leaders and pundits and exile then to their own planet. Hey they keep saying how they were successful without any help or privilege so they should be fine.
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# ? Sep 5, 2014 17:25 |