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Episode 20: Devil in Disguise Episode 20: Devil in Disguise With guest co-commentator Lunethex Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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Now that's how you end an LP!
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Question #1 What was your involvement with "The Saboteur", how big of a role did you play in its development? Answer: I was lead writer for 1st 3 years. Played major creative role almost from beginning, developing world & characters. Question #2 Did the untimely demise of Pandemic Studios rush the project out the door? Was there any planned DLC for post-launch content? Answer: No. Game was finished before studio was shuttered. 1 could make case the delay of project from 3 to 4.5 years+ played role in EA choosing 2 shut down Pandemic. (Mercs 2 as well) But that's just speculation. Don't know about DLC. Certainly there were plans for a sequel. DLC was just becoming a thing at that point, so not sure about that. -------------- Got any questions for Tom? Let me know and I'll shoot him a tweet! (Future questions) Question #3 Were there any plans for a bigger role for General Eckhardt? The 3rd act feels rushed, is this intentional? Question #4 Who's your favorite character in the game, and why? Question #5 What's your fondest memory from the development of "The Saboteur"? Question #6 Do you think "The Saboteur" will ever get a sequel? Would you want to go back to it, and where would you have it set?
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Q&A with Lead Writer Tom Abernathy - Part 2 Question #3 Were there any plans for a bigger role for General Eckhardt? The 3rd act feels rushed, is this intentional? Answer: The script underwent some revisions after I left, especially in the 3rd act. (Although rule of thumb in game dev is that you put a lot more work into beginnings than endings, bcs only maybe 1/3 of players play to the end. I can't speak to the "rushed" part. Originally there were 2 main villains, Dierker & Eckhardt. Think Vader & Emperor. Dierker was cut after I left project. Eckhardt was always meant to be more power behind scenes, a la Emp Sidious, so it's possible the loss of Dierker accounts for any sense that Eckhardt isn't around as much as you'd expect. Edit: Question 3.5 "You say that Dierker was cut, but he was still the main villain. Don't you mean Eckhardt was cut, affecting Dierker?" Answer: Sorry, yes. That's what I meant. :-) Question #4 Who's your favorite character in the game, and why? Answer: This is SUPER hard, because I love them all. Aside from Sean, bcs duh :-), probably Skylar Sinclair. Lots of great 1s cut too. Fav of those: Georgia Parker, inspired by Josephine Baker. Cut from game. Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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Q&A with Lead Writer Tom Abernathy - Part 3 Question #5 What's your fondest memory from the development of "The Saboteur"? Answer: 2 things come to mind. For my 1st 6-9 months the design team was lead des Tom French & me. Blissfully productive. More specifically, working w concept artist to develop Skylar's plane. 2+ wks of convo & iteration. End result: A plane that evokes Skylar, both her look & her personality. Thrilling example of cross-disciplinary collaboration. Question #6 Do you think "The Saboteur" will ever get a sequel? Would you want to go back to it, and where would you have it set? Answer: Hard to imagine. Highly regarded but low sales, bcs no support from EA at the time. Whole team is gratified that so many fans have discovered it & are passionate about it. I'd do another in a heartbeat. Plan was to go to Berlin.
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It's really weird to me that Skylar's plane was a loving P61 Black Widow. Why not use a Lysander? They were actually used for covert insertions and things, specifically with the French Resistance.
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Night10194 posted:It's really weird to me that Skylar's plane was a loving P61 Black Widow. Why not use a Lysander? They were actually used for covert insertions and things, specifically with the French Resistance. Lysanders aren't sexy though
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Was the subplot of the "glowing thing in the trunk that's totally the Ark of the Covenant/Holy Grail" that Bishop has you recover originally going to go somewhere or pay off? Or was is just a fun nod to Indiana Jones-style Nazi mysticism plots? The Saboteur, visually, feels like a giant love letter to 1940s/50s cinema. Were there any major cinematic influences that helped shape the script? What inspired the choice to have the protagonist be an Irishman in a predominantly French setting? What is your favorite line of dialog from the game? Was there a need to keep things "historically accurate", or as close to as possible? On that note, if The Saboteur did actually get a sequel and Sean made it to Berlin, would we have encountered Hitler (or any other famous Nazis) at any point? Or would you have stuck to fictitious ones as antagonists? If yes, a followup: "Hitler Boss Fight? [Y/N]" And lastly, Skylar and Veronique seem like the Betty and Veronica of The Saboteur. Who would you prefer Sean ultimately wound up with between the two?
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Q&A with Lead Writer Tom Abernathy - Part 4 Question #7 If you had the choice, what time period of Berlin would you set it in? Near the end of the war? During 'His' rise? Answer: Never got that far, at least while I was there. Original plan was to end 1st game w Allied liberation of Paris, but we were asked not to go that far, so as to preserve part of the war in Europe for a sequel. Question #8 Was it a deliberate choice not to mention Hitler, or most/all of the people who actually participated in the war? also ties into Question #10 Was it also deliberate to skew the timeframes a bit? What was the inspiration for terror troops, zeppelins, and wulf tanks? Answer: In general, we were making a stylized version of occupied Paris; historical accuracy mattered but wasn't paramount. To do a Medal of Honor-type historical game would've meant too many limitations. We were aiming more for Raiders of the Lost Ark feel, w a little James Bond in there as well. Don't recall ever discussing whether or not to mention Hitler specifically; wasn't germane to what we were doing. Once you introduce him, you've reached apex antagonist. We were more interested in a microcosm of the war, with our own characters as the focus. Although Devlin is loosely based on 3 real Grand Prix drivers who worked for SOE. It was their experience we were concerned with depicting, & none of them ever met Hitler. Not having been alive during the war, I can't say how often Hitler was discussed in everyday conversation. So just wasn't a big issue for us. Other inspirations: Where Eagles Dare, The Train Not aware of any skewing of timeframes. We were specific about starting the game just before the Paris occupation and it ends before the liberation. There were some historical inspirations for the things you mention, but again we wanted to give ourselves as much artistic license to imagine as possible. & zeppelins are just awesome. :-) Question #9 Who named the various vehicles so I know who to blame? You spoke of Skylar's plane, did you use blueprints of the P-61 or stock photos for the design? Answer: No idea who named vehicles. Can't speak to blueprints of specific referents. TONS of research done, though.
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nine-gear crow posted:Was the subplot of the "glowing thing in the trunk that's totally the Ark of the Covenant/Holy Grail" that Bishop has you recover originally going to go somewhere or pay off? Or was is just a fun nod to Indiana Jones-style Nazi mysticism plots?
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Oh, and speaking of double-crosses and such. What was the reason for Santos' betrayal? Was he a Franco loyalist? Can't speak to that. Santos was maybe the only major character I didn't create. He was created after I left.
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All great answers. If you're reading this, Tom, thanks a bunch!
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Were Margot and the other resistance cell leaders dead offscreen? It looked like Veronique was chosen just because she hung around Luc and the people with actual experience in the resistance got tossed aside. What is the deal with the glowing eyes thing at the end? Scalding Coffee fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Sep 10, 2016 |
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Scalding Coffee posted:Were Margot and the other resistance cell leaders dead offscreen? It looked like Veronique was chosen just because she hung around Luc and the people with actual experience in the resistance got tossed aside. I think all the cell leaders are supposed to be dead, thanks to Santos' betrayal. Its not very well explained in-game, but they did find two of our HQs, with characters like Bryman and co dying in the Belle de Nuit. There is a bonus episode coming, eventually, but as far as I know there are no missions from any main quest-giver. Everything passed this point is side mission stuff. The glowing eyes is a running joke from Lunethex's amazing Syphon Filter LP
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This video here completely and concisely explains everything you need to know about the "Rhoemer Saga" from the Syphon Filter LP.
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Some notes about the finale. It doesn't matter if you shoot him or not he always dies. Fun note you shot the guy giving the place the background music. When he died it stopped in game. Pretty sure that if you left them alone, except for the drunkards, they'll eventually all kill themselves.
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... Is that p-61 that a loving p-61... How gently caress long has this game been going on that thing didn't get produced until 1943 and how the hell did she land that in the those hills short landing are not a thing that does. Also BF 109 machine guns don't work that way drat it. And she's using the turret while flying (I mean I guess there could have been another person in the plane but if that was the case where the hell did they stick everyone else) Jobbo: Also I don't know why stuff is exploding.... Me: Why Jobbo that simple she's just dropping the nonexistent bombs that P-61 could carry one it's bomb mounts... you know that one that weren't there in the cut scenes. So you did this episode back on august the 15. And now I see a bit of mortician and a bit of road.... Jobbo did you break the game again? Jobbo Two seconds later: and the game crashed. Why did the Nazi fall of the tower? Oh... that's why. Okay I wasn't expecting Dirker to have a Heel realization there. Well played Jobbo off to read the developer comments I guess. cokerpilot fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Sep 10, 2016 |
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oh drat the LP is over already? please tell me there is a video of all the side missions at least.
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there's another update with something in it.
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also there seems to be some massive audio desync for me in the last video.
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Blind Sally posted:there's another update with something in it. Hoping for a musical montage of all the remaining free play targets getting exploded.
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Thefluffy posted:also there seems to be some massive audio desync for me in the last video. There was a slight audio volume issue but no desync as far as I know. Might just be youtube shenanigans?
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Bonus Episode 01: Bonus 01: Deutschland Uber Phallus With guest co-commentators Blind Sally, Faerie Fortune, Jamie The D, and Nine Gear Crow
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Did I miss anything? Did I miss anything in my playthrough? Want to see something done in-game? Now's your chance to get your suggestions in! Should I show off how to jump off the Eiffel Tower... and live to tell the tale? Are there any vehicles you want to see driven? Let me know! (Please try to keep requests simple. I will try to do whatever is asked for, although I don't have saves before every mission so please don't ask for me to re-do Mission X just to kill one dude differently )
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You're welcome! I should've put a Dead Kennedys album cover on the thumbnail, damnit!
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If ever there was a non-Rhoemer occasion to use Klezmer Party, that was it.
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Also, as promised
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The video ended with exploding cows. That was going to be my one request. Unless you can manage to use the cows to also blow up nazis. Then do that.
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nine-gear crow posted:If ever there was a non-Rhoemer occasion to use Klezmer Party, that was it. http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=h...Name=SeanDevlin
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I see your Klezmer and I raise you Duke: http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=h...Name=DukeDevlin
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nine-gear crow posted:I see your Klezmer and I raise you Duke: I thought it was going to be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7rnhIkjhEg Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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As Fae said, that show isn't burlesque. Burlesque is all about titillation, what those girls are wearing is what you see for like, a few seconds as the big reveal of a Burlesque show after like three minutes of slowly building up to it. And the nudity... Yeah, you will never see nipples at a burlesque club. I know that this is a minor thing and no one but I really care but I just wanted to state it anyway. Oh, also, thank you for the LP! I would have loved to see what this concept could have been if it... wasn't this.
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Looks like the game is coming on Steam and GOG.
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Thanks for a great LP!
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Scalding Coffee posted:Looks like the game is coming on Steam and GOG. https://www.gog.com/game/saboteur Already out on GOG! I would like to take this moment and credit myself for the sudden surge in popularity of the game
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Are we going to see the pimp mobile or did you already show it?
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Scalding Coffee posted:Are we going to see the pimp mobile or did you already show it? I may not have shown it, come to think of it...
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Jobbo_Fett posted:https://www.gog.com/game/saboteur and with that I have no reason to keep my old xbox 360 anymore.
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