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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
I solved my problem after finding a solution on Reddit, btw, I had to find the "Chromecast built-in" system app in Shield settings, clear its data, and reboot :toot:

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Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

I'm looking for recommendations for an extension that cleans up Facebook. I only ever want to see posts from my friends/family and the pages that I actually follow, in reverse chronological order. I want to completely get rid of anything "sponsored", "suggested", "for you" etc. I realize that FB's algorithm still won't show me everything from my follows, but getting rid of the crap will be a big improvement.

Bonus would be a Firefox extension that does the same thing, for my inevitable switchover whenever Google gets around to breaking uBlock Origin.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
I’ve used FB Purity for quite a while, though like most people I don’t really use Facebook any more.

https://www.fbpurity.com

I don’t think it works as well as it used to, and the guy is in an endless cat & mouse game with Facebook’s developers, but it’s worth trying at least?

ccubed
Jul 14, 2016

How's it hanging, brah?
In case anyone else runs into this again, again, and tabs turn to poo poo and that dumb side panel appears:

quote:

right click your desktop Chrome icon (or make a new one that you can then pin to the taskbar) & on the Target line of the first tab, either copy & paste the following or just add the part not in quotes:

C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --disable-features=CustomizeChromeSidePanel

Really need to just bite the bullet and switch to Firefox at this point

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Ofecks posted:

I'm looking for recommendations for an extension that cleans up Facebook. I only ever want to see posts from my friends/family and the pages that I actually follow, in reverse chronological order. I want to completely get rid of anything "sponsored", "suggested", "for you" etc. I realize that FB's algorithm still won't show me everything from my follows, but getting rid of the crap will be a big improvement.

Bonus would be a Firefox extension that does the same thing, for my inevitable switchover whenever Google gets around to breaking uBlock Origin.

I'm going to try out FB Purity. For chronological order I have my bookmark pointing to https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

webmeister posted:

https://www.fbpurity.com

I don’t think it works as well as it used to, and the guy is in an endless cat & mouse game with Facebook’s developers, but it’s worth trying at least?

Man, that website is definitely a 00's vibe.

Gave it a try and initial results are good. No more poo poo in my feed that FB thinks I should like and follow. Thanks.

TITTIEKISSER69 posted:

For chronological order I have my bookmark pointing to https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr

Good tip, thanks. However, I'm going to leave my bookmark vanilla because I like seeing birthday notifications, shortcuts to my groups on the left, and occasionally I like to look through "people you may know". Bookmarking sk=h_chr removes all of that and I couldn't figure out how to get back to it. Chrono-feed can still be easily accessed, I found, by clicking the "Feeds" button on the left.

Ofecks fucked around with this message at 16:41 on May 18, 2024

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
Another Chrome update another gently caress up of the padding in the right click menu.
The old flags did not work from the last time this happened, even tried reenabling them, relaunching and the disabling them with another relaunch, which didnt change it.
Found this though if it bothers you as it did me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/1czojpw/how_to_fix_the_new_broken_ui/

quote:

Right click again on Google Chrome. More options will be displayed, and you click on Properties.

A window opens with six tabs, you must go to the tab called “shortcut”.

Locate the line that says “target”

You will see this written: "C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe"

You need to add a space after the quote and add this --disable-features=CustomizeChromeSidePanel

You apply and accept.

If you have Chrome pinned to the start menu, open Windows Explorer and navigate here:

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

When you find the Chrome icon, repeat the six steps.

If you have Chrome on your desktop, you do the same, repeat the six steps.

OgNar fucked around with this message at 02:55 on May 26, 2024

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
What in the gently caress is Chrome/Edge's moon logic in forcibly elevating http sessions to https in normal mode, but not in private mode?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Normal browsing mode you want things to be secure by default, a private tab might be where you log into some ancient web UI that only speaks HTTP.

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


I'm using Chrome on my Mac and I always use it fullscreen. My problem is that the Chrome tabs are at the top and half the time I try to go click on one, I overshoot a tiny bit which triggers the Mac menu bar to appear, covering the tabs.

Is there any way to move the tab bar down to below the address bar, which I have to click way less frequently? Any results I've found searching for this seem to be for mobile, where that sort of thing is possible. I'd even tolerate everything moving to the bottom of the screen if it sorted this.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
I guess this is kinda a Chrome issue. I've "installed" my budgeting app as PWA and thought my eyes were getting bad. Putting screenshots from running it as PWA and then as regular website, pixelpeeping in Photoshop, the PWA version renders blurrier. The same drat runtime renders the app. What the hell.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

Combat Pretzel posted:

Come next month, Google's gonna ditch MV2 and as such neuter UBlock Origin. There's a lite version for MV3 with a static filter list, but it'll lose a lot of dynamic filtering capabilities. I was wondering, are the APIs for page manipulation still available, or did they get knee-capped, too? Would a two pronged approach work, where another extension scrubs the page as it gets parsed into the DOM tree?

I read about this a while back and just saw an alarmist post on Imgur about same. Are we just in wait and see mode to see how this goes or should I begin moving over to FF?

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
You're probably not going to drown in a surprise flood of ads, if you're moving to UBlock Lite or whatever the MV3-compatible version is being called, when the relevant version of Chrome et al gets pushed out, but you'll probably be seeing a few slip through here and there.

The issue is that filter lists are static and embedded in the plugin manifest file. If you/they want update the lists, they have to submit an update to the extension store and it has to go through approval process, which may delay things for a few days. Up until now, the extension does it itself every browser start (and when you click the update button). We don't know the practical effects yet, but I'd figure that sketchier sites and those will the absolute will to want to serve you ads (e.g. Youtube and their intent to bypass blockers) will be able to exploit that delay.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

codo27 posted:

I read about this a while back and just saw an alarmist post on Imgur about same. Are we just in wait and see mode to see how this goes or should I begin moving over to FF?

You can:
1. switch your install to Chrome Enterprise, which will have MV2 support for another year
2. switch to Vivaldi, which will keep MV2 support at least that long or possibly longer, depending on how easy or difficult it is to maintain that code when google removes it (and also has a built-in adblock with none of the MV3 restrictions, which is about as powerful as UBO in non-expert mode)
3. switch to Firefox

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

Vivaldi gets addons from chrome store. Where will it get them after mv2 is removed next week?

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Ihmemies posted:

Vivaldi gets addons from chrome store. Where will it get them after mv2 is removed next week?

Most extensions, the chrome store as usual. Things that don't depend on the neutered webrequest API are updating to MV3, and vivaldi already supports them.

Ublock, download it from the UBO github page and drag and drop into the manage extensions page. So yeah, manual updates, but UBO only updates once a month or so. (And the extension updates aren't super critical to get right away, it's the block lists that need to update every day.)

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Combat Pretzel posted:

You're probably not going to drown in a surprise flood of ads, if you're moving to UBlock Lite or whatever the MV3-compatible version is being called, when the relevant version of Chrome et al gets pushed out, but you'll probably be seeing a few slip through here and there.

The issue is that filter lists are static and embedded in the plugin manifest file. If you/they want update the lists, they have to submit an update to the extension store and it has to go through approval process, which may delay things for a few days. Up until now, the extension does it itself every browser start (and when you click the update button). We don't know the practical effects yet, but I'd figure that sketchier sites and those will the absolute will to want to serve you ads (e.g. Youtube and their intent to bypass blockers) will be able to exploit that delay.

The block lists are also limited in length now too, no?

It’s trivial to work around and it’ll be exploited by every ad network that serves you ads, as intended, by design.

For a preview of the future, go try using the very limited ad blocker on iOS Safari to surf sites with lovely ads and pop-ups. It’s back to the 90s.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

RE: Facebook, I've used the Social Fixer extension for some time. Its not perfect however, but it has tons of options to gently caress with.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

wooger posted:

The block lists are also limited in length now too, no?
Yea, 30000 rules.

However looking this up to verify, the Chrome document talks about dynamic rules. One complaint was that they all had to be packaged, but on first glance this reads like they could be loaded during runtime. v:confused:v

quote:

Dynamic and session rulesets are managed using JavaScript while an extension is in use.

  • Dynamic rules persist across browser sessions and extension upgrades.
  • Session rules are cleared when the browser shuts down and when a new version of the extension is installed.
https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/api/declarativeNetRequest#dynamic-and-session-rules

--edit:
Then again, that's what UBlock quotes for me currently: 191,677 network filters + 204,685 cosmetic filters

Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Jun 3, 2024

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


finally time to pop over to Firefox, huh?

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Not if I don't click Finish update!

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Combat Pretzel posted:

However looking this up to verify, the Chrome document talks about dynamic rules. One complaint was that they all had to be packaged, but on first glance this reads like they could be loaded during runtime. v:confused:v

They can be loaded / modified during runtime, but a different restriction on Manifest V3 is that you aren't allowed to fetch any code or "logic" from a remote server. Filter lists fall under this policy:

ars tech posted:

Manifest V3 bans "remotely-hosted code," but this is typically how ad blockers updated their filter lists. In an end-of-2023 interview with Ghostery’s director of product and engineering Krzysztof Modras, Engadget wrote "Modras said that under Manifest V3, whenever an ad blocker wants to update its blocklist—again, something they may need to do multiple times a day—it will have to release a full update and undergo a review "which can take anywhere between [a] few hours to even a few weeks."


Note that the "remotely-hosted code" ban is not enforced by the actual capabilities of the API, but by google policy. So evil extensions that load evil remote code and manage to slip through the review process will be just as bad as they always were. If anything tells you how much the security excuse is a sham, that should.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


So you will still be able to manually load an extension in that has its own update checking logic and can remotely load filter lists?

biznatchio
Mar 31, 2001


Buglord

Thanks Ants posted:

So you will still be able to manually load an extension in that has its own update checking logic and can remotely load filter lists?

Yes, but it'll still have to be a Manifest V3 extension which means it'll be limited to the watered-down blocking capabilities V3 allows. You won't be able to manually load V2 extensions.

Xenthalon
Jun 28, 2010
After 10+ years on Chrome, I dipped my toe into the Firefox ecosystem as preparation for manifest v3.

Went with the Floorp browser some people in the Firefox thread recommended, and... it's alright. The couple of extensions I use are present, bookmarks were imported right away, just had to set up my quick launch pages in the new tab.
Fonts look a bit different, but the biggest change will be to get used to the different icon on the task bar. Mobile I use Vivaldi, so session-sharing is out anyways.

I used to be a Opera user before Chrome came around, and it feels kinda nice to get back into browser wars and being the underdog again :dance:

sauer kraut
Oct 2, 2004
Yeah I don't know what it is about fonts, but Firefox sometimes chooses to display some 'interesting' ones.
That and rapidly skipping forward in youtube videos being very slow is keeping me from switching :unsmith:

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Xenthalon posted:

After 10+ years on Chrome, I dipped my toe into the Firefox ecosystem as preparation for manifest v3.

Went with the Floorp browser some people in the Firefox thread recommended, and... it's alright. The couple of extensions I use are present, bookmarks were imported right away, just had to set up my quick launch pages in the new tab.
Fonts look a bit different, but the biggest change will be to get used to the different icon on the task bar. Mobile I use Vivaldi, so session-sharing is out anyways.

I used to be a Opera user before Chrome came around, and it feels kinda nice to get back into browser wars and being the underdog again :dance:

You could use Vivaldi on desktop too. They’re keeping Manifest V2.

Xenthalon
Jun 28, 2010

Arivia posted:

You could use Vivaldi on desktop too. They’re keeping Manifest V2.

Yeah, but for how long... at some point the code base will just diverge too much. I'll keep an eye on it for sure though.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Thanks Ants posted:

So you will still be able to manually load an extension in that has its own update checking logic and can remotely load filter lists?

Yes, if someone hypothetically made such an extension.

I doubt it'll happen -- uBO has already put out uBO Lite as the MV3 solution and is focusing on a permission-less and low-impact design. Making the best of the MV3 poo poo sandwich by creating a new useful goal that MV3 works for.


Xenthalon posted:

Yeah, but for how long... at some point the code base will just diverge too much. I'll keep an eye on it for sure though.

Definitely for at least the next year (chrome itself is keeping V2 available for enterprise users). Probably a while past that -- I've heard chrome's codebase is pretty modular and well-organized, so it'll be hard for google to make it totally incompatible right away.

Also vivaldi has a built-in adblock that will keep working normally even if V2 is removed. It's about as good as uBO in non-expert mode.

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

So will I be getting ublock updates from chrome store for the next year at least for Vivaldi?
Or do I have to start manually installing updates from GitHub repo once a month starting now?

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Ihmemies posted:

So will I be getting ublock updates from chrome store for the next year at least for Vivaldi?
Or do I have to start manually installing updates from GitHub repo once a month starting now?

You will continue to get automatic filter list updates inside ublock.

You will *not* get automatic updates to the extension itself from the chrome store, as google will be deleting all MV2 extensions (and vivaldi doesn't have an independent extension store). You'll have to download it from github and drop into the extension page.

OTOH updates to ublock aren't that big a deal these days, the thing is pretty mature and mostly gets small fixes. Constant filter updates are what keeps you from seeing ads.

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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I wonder if we will see an extension that you sideload that enables a 3rd party extension store and handles the updating for you

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