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berserker posted:Got missed on the last page apparently, I'm looking for some advice for putting together a good team to take on Satan tomorrow for the least amount of stones. Help!? Popular set up I've seen is doing the following team: Bastet: Echidna/Valk/King Shynee/Angelion. This team allows you to stall, burst and delay with equanimity.
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Are the Tamadra emails safe to keep unopened like the PAL emails? 4 free box slots are cool to me. I'm sure someone in the JP version has tried this experiment already since that's like 30 free box slots for them.
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Feb 22, 2014 01:12
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Thanks guys for the advice, I guess I just have to hope for a Grape Dragon to be super pro.
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Feb 22, 2014 01:13
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Furious Lobster posted:Popular set up I've seen is doing the following team: Make sure you have the HP if you run this team.
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Feb 22, 2014 01:15
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Eddain posted:Make sure you have the HP if you run this team. Yep, healer teams have terrible HP but given your box I think you're already familiar with this. Alternatively, one could put Venus instead of Echidna to maximize your burst at the end.
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Feb 22, 2014 01:18
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Cryohazard posted:Thanks guys for the advice, I guess I just have to hope for a Grape Dragon to be super pro.  THE CARNIVAL BECKONS
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Feb 22, 2014 01:20
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mphill posted:
gently caress you I haven't bought any stones since January. NO.
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berserker posted:Got missed on the last page apparently, I'm looking for some advice for putting together a good team to take on Satan tomorrow for the least amount of stones. Help!? Looking through your box you have two options with a Bastet team: Bastet/X/Valk/Angelion/King Shynee/Bastet Where X should be either Echidna or Venus. Please note that the magic number of HP you're looking for is 12,011 which will let you survive Satan's preempt + one attack, which will already give you three turns to combo hard on him (first turn he puts up status shield, second turn he hits you, one more turn before you die). With your monster levels and using Echidna, you're literally less than 50 hp away from this magic number so you gotta find a buff Bastet bro to put you over the hp threshold. Venus has better hp so you should be okay there. With an ideal Venus CTW combo (5 light matches + 5 others) and King Shynee active you should be able to one-shot Satan. With Echidna you get 6 turns to combo hard, make sure you open with Angelion + Valk + Shynee so you'll have one more turn at the end to Angelion + Valk again before losing. Your opening burst with the Echidna team should yield about 4mil damage assuming you do a 4 light + 4 other combo. After that, five more turns should be enough time to wear the other 2.6mil now assuming you do at least 7 combo everytime. Stall on one Kraken or one Vamp, being sure to keep their hp above the magic % before they have access to their one-shot moves (70% for Kraken, 30% for Vamp). yergacheffe fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Feb 22, 2014 |
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Feb 22, 2014 01:32
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I'd use the fruit dragons if they had subtypes. Plain dragons are pretty limited, even with good awakenings.
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DaveWoo posted:On the whole "how to awaken Satan" question, my advice would be to just run Metal Dragons regardless. If you're lucky and get some Tamadras, great; if not, well, you'll still end up with a whole bunch of King Metals to feed to your spare Satans. That's what I did, and it worked out just fine for me. I was going to post something along these lines at one point and then I realized it'd be bullshit because for me personally I still wouldn't give those tamadra to satan. 
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Eddain posted:I'd use the fruit dragons if they had subtypes. Plain dragons are pretty limited, even with good awakenings. Maybe after another year of power creep if they get ultimates. Adding a subtype right now would be crazy overpowered with those awakenings.
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Feb 22, 2014 01:49
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I was under the impression that fruit dragons were added as an extra little boost for colour- and not type-based teams, and that's precisely the reason they're Dragon-type, because Dragon-type is 99% useless.
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Feb 22, 2014 01:58
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Sweet thanks for the advice, dudes. Hopefully I snag that cold hearted bastard tomorrow.
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Cryohazard posted:I was under the impression that fruit dragons were added as an extra little boost for colour- and not type-based teams, and that's precisely the reason they're Dragon-type, because Dragon-type is 99% useless. They really shine with gronia (jesus gently caress I want melon dragon and grape dragon so bad).
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Cryohazard posted:I was under the impression that fruit dragons were added as an extra little boost for colour- and not type-based teams, and that's precisely the reason they're Dragon-type, because Dragon-type is 99% useless. Green Sonia / Grape Dragon / Melon Dragon / Dragon Zombie / Draggie might be fun I guess? I don't get why they felt the need to make the dragon boost only 2.5x. It's already one of the worst types
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Cryohazard posted:I was under the impression that fruit dragons were added as an extra little boost for colour- and not type-based teams, and that's precisely the reason they're Dragon-type, because Dragon-type is 99% useless. Pretty much the same awakenings as the ridiculously good FA Lucifer (plus a rank of Extend Time!) with an eight turn orb change is an appealing package to tempt someone to run an off-type monster. I'm not as keen on it as a few other posters, but it's a worthy contender for sure. If one falls into my lap during a Godfest I may have to give it some serious thought. For now I'm pretty content with a combination of Vampire/DJ till I max skill my Persephone/Loki/King Baddie/Hera-Ur/a few other subs. Big thing I need is either a FA Lucifer or a Cerberus. Still using janky old Hera-Ur for an orb enhancer till I get a real one.
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rivals posted:I was going to post something along these lines at one point and then I realized it'd be bullshit because for me personally I still wouldn't give those tamadra to satan. I didn't, either.  PaulC posted:Green Sonia / Grape Dragon / Melon Dragon / Dragon Zombie / Draggie might be fun I guess? I'd probably go full Green - Green Sonia / Green Ripper / Canopus / Draggie / Melon Dragon. With a Green Sonia friend leader, that gives you 4 Row Enhances, plus 8 Skill Boosts, plus the option to turn the whole board Green (Sonia -> Ripper), enhance the board, and fire Draggie, to the tune of somewhere around 3-4 million damage.
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DaveWoo posted:I'd probably go full Green - Green Sonia / Green Ripper / Canopus / Draggie / Melon Dragon. With a Green Sonia friend leader, that gives you 4 Row Enhances, plus 8 Skill Boosts, plus the option to turn the whole board Green (Sonia -> Ripper), enhance the board, and fire Draggie, to the tune of somewhere around 3-4 million damage. I'd do the same team pretty much except using Melody in place of Canopus. On the subject of Green Row Teams, I've put together the following team for Perseus: Perseus / Melon Dragon / Cu Chu / Astaroth / Sasuke I initially put Artemis in place of Cu Chu to maximize Row Enhancements but I feel that her active conflicts with Perseus' too much and also with Melon Dragon, I'm going to need something to break all the hearts that this team can produce. Interested in hearing others' thoughts on this team make-up.
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BGrifter posted:Pretty much the same awakenings as the ridiculously good FA Lucifer (plus a rank of Extend Time!) with an eight turn orb change is an appealing package to tempt someone to run an off-type monster. I'm not as keen on it as a few other posters, but it's a worthy contender for sure. If one falls into my lap during a Godfest I may have to give it some serious thought. Just did the math. With a 1-combo row match: DJ team: Satan/DJ/Vamp/Loki/Bad Luci/Satan: 292,450 damage Grape team: Satan/Grape/Vamp/Loki/Bad Luci/Satan: 286,001 damage Grape does 2% less damage than the same team with DJ, but you gain a lot of stuff: 2 skill charge awakenings, 0.5s extended movement, +40% enhanced orbs, and a 3000 hp heal. These are pretty big things. The skill charges mean that you have Vamp and Luci available turn one, whereas with DJ they're available on turn 3. This is really, really important for a lot of dungeons. As for the extended movement, most people average a combo every half second to second, so a half second should be worth something like 3/4 a combo on average, which is 3/4 * 25% = 19% damage increase on average, more than making up for the 2%. I'd argue that it's actually way better than that for a team that relies on making row matches, since some of those two row splits can take a while, and missing one more than halves your damage. e: also, the heal lets you use Satan -> Grape -> Satan! With max skilled Satans this powerful combination would only take 20 turns to stall for with the awakenings! 
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mphill posted:Just did the math. With a 1-combo row match: Looks about right to me, although DJ isn't really a top of the heap Satan sub. The competitors for the spot the Grape would take up are Gryps or Persephone. I'm guessing Gryps comes out notably ahead. Persephone would be closer especially once she gets that rank of skill boost to help her crummy first three awakenings. It's certainly not bad by any stretch. Not sure it takes a spot in REM-heavy best of the best teams, but if I had one I'd probably throw some resources into it over time. Really the strength of Satan teams is how flexible they are depending on what subs you have available to you. It's a question of which ridiculously kickass Satan team you have the pieces for, not whether you have the pieces to make it work at all.
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BGrifter posted:Looks about right to me, although DJ isn't really a top of the heap Satan sub. The competitors for the spot the Grape would take up are Gryps or Persephone. I'm guessing Gryps comes out notably ahead. Persephone would be closer especially once she gets that rank of skill boost to help her crummy first three awakenings. I guess it depends on how powerful the 0.5s is. I've never used it, much less on a row awakening team, so I'm not really sure. Honestly, I thought the two row enhance awakenings would come out significantly ahead, but I guess you start running into diminishing returns. It's actually giving me second thoughts on Grape over Persephone. I'd like to try it, but man is that an expensive experiment.
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Grape is also really really good on a mono-dark team for what it's worth. My team is D/D Batman, Bad Lucifer, Vampire and Hanzo. I wanted a little more defense, so Grape Dragon it is. With a Loki friend it's 70% row bonus, two offensive orb changers, one defensive orb changer and Lucifer because he's Lucifer. A well-balanced team that can burst when it needs to. The only thing I'd put in the Grape Dragon slot is Loki, which is totally useless with a friend loki since their abilities don't stack.
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mphill posted:I guess it depends on how powerful the 0.5s is. I've never used it, much less on a row awakening team, so I'm not really sure. I'd love a couple +0.5s awakenings on my Satan team, the problem is finding a way to fit them in without sacrificing things like orb changes or row awakenings. To state the obvious, part of what hurts the Grape dragon is the typing. Losing that 12.25x multiplier on 1457atk on Persephone or 1466atk on Gryps stings. He's still viable, but I suspect the numbers will fall pretty consistently on the side of Persephone or Gryps. I'd rate him in a similar category to DJ actually. If you have Grape maxed/awoken by all means use him, if you have other teams that would want him then go for it too. I don't know that I'd rush to max and awaken purely for a Satan team though unless your other options aren't particularly good.
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NA event announcedquote:*Mardi Gras*
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We're getting the sticker girls?
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Increased Tamadra appearance? Welp guess I'm not ranking up and wasting all my stamina on jewel dragons.
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Here's hoping they activate that Indian busty data they just gave us.
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Potsticker posted:We're getting the sticker girls? Yes, that's what the announcement says. I don't know why it says 'previously JP-exclusive' though since we've had the pink dragon rem at least once before, maybe twice?
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Unknown_PC posted:2/24 - 3/4 - All Eggs Guaranteed [+] Only $1485 for a guaranteed fully +'d character!!
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berserker posted:Only $1485 for a guaranteed fully +'d character!! Assuming you get equal amounts of all three + types!
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Potsticker posted:Assuming you get equal amounts of all three + types! Someone in Japan will spend the money to do this.
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I will get Hera-Ur this time. I think I need her for Queen of the Gods. There's no way I can stall for Gravity, so enhance it is. e: and sticker girls huh... Fuu + Angel Cinnamon + Valk could be fun ReidRansom fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Feb 22, 2014 |
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Feb 22, 2014 06:23
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Uh, what are the "Five Elements Gods"?
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Uh, what are the "Five Elements Gods"? Chinese.
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No free Tamadra and no Groove Coaster.  berserker posted:Only $1485 for a guaranteed fully +'d character!! My friend tells me people actually do this...?!?
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Have we gotten all the elemental carnivals since they last refreshed the REM? The refresh started with Forest Gala, and after this weirdo carnival I think it's due to loop around. Looks like my wish for an Indian x Green carnival might come true...... squeee Pavarti party happy whale time I don't think I've used my present egg yet... Anyone want it? (358,366,276)
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Xtanstic posted:My friend tells me people actually do this...?!?
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Part of me is excited for another vent so soon, but the other part wonders when I'll ever get around to finishing the last 5 sets of normal dungeons.
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Ya, I think I've found my healer team. Valk/Angel Cinnamon/Fuu/LL Archangel/Valkitty/Valk, as if I will ever have the light XP to make that happen. Dammit GungHo I told myself I was done shaking hands with these damned dragons.
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umm... what are the drop odds on the GungHo Samba Collab? Because if I can buy ruby kings for 10 stam a pop this is going to be crazy.
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