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Imagine you are tracking down your Nemesis that you are mildly irritated with, and then he turns into Sauron, summons 50 orcs, kicks the crap out of you and then teabags your corpse. Especially when he turns back into the orc and he makes fun of you in his cockney accent like the orc was the one who beat you. You'll be furious!
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Oct 11, 2014 00:11
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Actually I'd probably sigh because it'd be the twentieth time that session it had happened.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:21
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It would have been pretty rad if the final boss fight was basically Mr. Freeze. A powerful enemy who is vulnerable to things *once* and then becomes immune to him, encouraging you to use every ability and skill you've unlocked so far to damage him. An unstoppable monster who you sic monsters on, lure into traps, stab from above and frantically try to wear down would have felt cooler.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:30
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I was hoping the Tower was going that way but no, it was a fairly standard 'hit three times' thing.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:31
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ImpAtom posted:It would have been pretty rad if the final boss fight was basically Mr. Freeze. A powerful enemy who is vulnerable to things *once* and then becomes immune to him, encouraging you to use every ability and skill you've unlocked so far to damage him. An unstoppable monster who you sic monsters on, lure into traps, stab from above and frantically try to wear down would have felt cooler.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:32
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Donnerberg posted:Heh, and then there's the PS3 and 360 which get a version without the nemesis system. Why even put it out at that point?  Are you for real right now?
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Oct 11, 2014 00:33
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Michaellaneous posted:
S/he is in no way joking.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:34
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We're not 100% clear on what it is missing, just that it was outsourced, has some 'lesser' form of the Nemesis system and was massively delayed away from the next-gen version. Odds are very high it'll be a bit of a pile of rear end.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:35
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This thing runs perfectly fine on my sub par PC why the gently caress would they do that for any other reason than sony and microsoft want people to buy the next console.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:50
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Donnerberg posted:The horde fight before the final fight is pretty nice. They were on the right track capitalizing on your nemesis. Instead of the QTE end, there should just have been a boss rush of the biggest dudes you had defeated. Say Sauron or Saruman or someone brought them back to stop you. Yeah, it would have been nice to rez whatever orc had killed you most or who you'd had the most encounters with and made him level 20 if you'd killed your nemesis rather than picking some dude I had never heard of to be my final nemesis. Could have had his head crudely bolted back on or something. With all the thought that went into the game I'm surprised they didn't have a better plan to deal with people who had hunted down and murdered all the orcs that had ever wronged them before heading across the sea. "Oh poo poo, loving Deathkill McMutilator is back!" would have been a far better reaction than "Huh, who is Shitdick the Neverheardof?"
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Oct 11, 2014 00:51
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Michaellaneous posted:This thing runs perfectly fine on my sub par PC why the gently caress would they do that for any other reason than sony and microsoft want people to buy the next console.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:52
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Al Nipper posted:Looking forward to more aggressively stupid tags showing up in game.  EDIT: Also a reminder that it doesn't pick people from just your friends list. No idea if it just picks any Steam users currently playing the game or what.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:56
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I would unironically pay for extra DLC that let me sic orcs on other players. 
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Oct 11, 2014 00:56
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poptart_fairy posted:I would unironically pay for extra DLC that let me sic orcs on other players. Just have a red branded orc show up in the middle of a fight and spout off something like, "My Master sends his regards."
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Oct 11, 2014 01:17
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Michaellaneous posted:This thing runs perfectly fine on my sub par PC why the gently caress would they do that for any other reason than sony and microsoft want people to buy the next console. How much RAM does your sub-par PC have? Because the answer is "more than the PS3/360." The same goes for my smartphone also.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:19
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Brainamp posted:Just have a red branded orc show up in the middle of a fight and spout off something like, "My Master sends his regards." Aaaagh, don't turn this into Souls of Mordor, my heart could not take the disappointment of a sequel not living up this ideal. 
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Oct 11, 2014 01:22
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poptart_fairy posted:I would unironically pay for extra DLC that let me sic orcs on other players. That would be incredible. I'm sure someone out there has some ambusher crossbow-orc with deadly, quick shot, immune to all three types of damage, only fear is of a rival, and no last chance. Unleashing that on the world would just be a big "gently caress you" to everyone.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:22
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Pakled posted:That would be incredible. I'm sure someone out there has some ambusher crossbow-orc with deadly, quick shot, immune to all three types of damage, only fear is of a rival, and no last chance. Unleashing that on the world would just be a big "gently caress you" to everyone. I have an orc that is literally unkillable, so I'd find it amusing. he's immune to all damage types, and has counter/slam/poison/fast attack/group. his only weakness was a fear of betrayal, but as soon as I branded him he lost it, so now he just has no weaknesses.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:25
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Anyone else just patch? Couldn't find any news on the matter.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:27
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On the other end of the vendetta spectrum...
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Oct 11, 2014 01:27
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Is there anyway to remove an ability, via console or save editing or some such? I bought the explody heads ability and I really hate it. The animation is too long and boring and it repeats constantly.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:45
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I too didn't care for the head exploding thing. When you first see it, it sounds awesome, but then it gets old quick.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:47
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Black Griffon posted:Anyone else just patch? Couldn't find any news on the matter. http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/521614893541208337 Nothing major at all.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:11
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Rookersh posted:I have an orc that is literally unkillable, so I'd find it amusing. I don't think you can get immune to explosions, or basic hits, so no one is actually unkillable. Also, none of those immunities apply against orcs, or Graugs.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:15
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Darkrenown posted:Yeah, it would have been nice to rez whatever orc had killed you most or who you'd had the most encounters with and made him level 20 if you'd killed your nemesis rather than picking some dude I had never heard of to be my final nemesis. Could have had his head crudely bolted back on or something. With all the thought that went into the game I'm surprised they didn't have a better plan to deal with people who had hunted down and murdered all the orcs that had ever wronged them before heading across the sea. "Oh poo poo, loving Deathkill McMutilator is back!" would have been a far better reaction than "Huh, who is Shitdick the Neverheardof?" I must have had it lucky, because that's exactly what happened to me. The dude who first killed me, and killed me most often returned for one final battle. We were dead even in our kills (3 and 3), so it was loving awesome to have a tie breaker right at the end of the game. He had risen to level 20 before I left the first area too, so he was suitably powerful with lots of poison and bullshit resistances. He was the true final boss for me.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:17
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I too didn't care for the head exploding thing. When you first see it, it sounds awesome, but then it gets old quick.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:18
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I still wince when he cuts out an orc's legs and decapitates them as they fall - but even that's nothing compared to when they're on the floor and he stabs them in the throat before breaking their neck. It's like, jesus christ Talion, calm down.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:36
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I too didn't care for the head exploding thing. When you first see it, it sounds awesome, but then it gets old quick.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:39
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Darkrenown posted:Yeah, it would have been nice to rez whatever orc had killed you most or who you'd had the most encounters with and made him level 20 if you'd killed your nemesis rather than picking some dude I had never heard of to be my final nemesis. Could have had his head crudely bolted back on or something. With all the thought that went into the game I'm surprised they didn't have a better plan to deal with people who had hunted down and murdered all the orcs that had ever wronged them before heading across the sea. "Oh poo poo, loving Deathkill McMutilator is back!" would have been a far better reaction than "Huh, who is Shitdick the Neverheardof?" Then he loving rears his ugly, mutilated head at that showdown. It was pretty incredible. At that point I'd single-try bulldozed so many other officers he was just about the only orc that WOULD have made me take notice (or that I'd even recognize), and I was so sure I had seen the last of him that it was a genuine surprise. I was grinning in spite of my hate for the guy. What a perfect choice. Well done, game. Rookersh posted:I have an orc that is literally unkillable, so I'd find it amusing. Vib Rib fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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Oct 11, 2014 02:41
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poptart_fairy posted:I still wince when he cuts out an orc's legs and decapitates them as they fall - but even that's nothing compared to when they're on the floor and he stabs them in the throat before breaking their neck. It's like, jesus christ Talion, calm down. You're talking about the one where he makes them fall on the sword? Yeah that one is my second favorite. The best is when you do a ground finisher from a bit away and he pulls the orc by the leg closer to him so he can stab him in the throat  that one and the brutalize kill from a ledge
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Oct 11, 2014 02:45
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Skandranon posted:I don't think you can get immune to explosions, or basic hits, so no one is actually unkillable. Also, none of those immunities apply against orcs, or Graugs. Combat master makes him invulnerable to basic attacks and executions.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:57
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poptart_fairy posted:I still wince when he cuts out an orc's legs and decapitates them as they fall - but even that's nothing compared to when they're on the floor and he stabs them in the throat before breaking their neck. It's like, jesus christ Talion, calm down. 
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Oct 11, 2014 02:59
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poptart_fairy posted:I still wince when he cuts out an orc's legs and decapitates them as they fall - but even that's nothing compared to when they're on the floor and he stabs them in the throat before breaking their neck. It's like, jesus christ Talion, calm down. This game has my favorite unfeasible melee kill move, which is casually dropping a dude on a sword that you're holding pommel to the ground, and whispering sweet nothings in his ear.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:03
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I did 16 main missions then hit a wall. I assumed I had to do this influence 5 warchiefs thing in order to get another main mission. Nope I gotta do the dwarf missions which I thought were side-missions. Holy poo poo I wasted so much goddamn time getting those 5. Also that final fight is so hilariously bad. Great game though.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:23
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James Woods Fan posted:I did 16 main missions then hit a wall. I assumed I had to do this influence 5 warchiefs thing in order to get another main mission. Nope I gotta do the dwarf missions which I thought were side-missions. Holy poo poo I wasted so much goddamn time getting those 5. If it's any consolation, you have to do both. 
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Oct 11, 2014 03:29
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Pakled posted:If it's any consolation, you have to do both. Good. I was so furious thinking I had done all that for no reason. One in particular was an absolute bastard. I had to dominate his top-shelf (thanks to my dumbass) bodyguards before battle and do a betrayal mission. They ganked his rear end like Caesar.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:33
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Brainamp posted:Combat master makes him invulnerable to basic attacks and executions. It only makes them immune to executions and other finishing moves (end move of flurry, combat drain, ground execution). You can hit them normally to build up combos/do tiny damage. There is a different ability where they can counter basic attacks, like Berserkers. Also, it only makes them immune to the combat finishers where you have to touch them. Wraith Flash and Wraith Burn still work.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:36
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Vib Rib posted:You can still blow him up and catch him on fire.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:37
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Wait after branding 5 warchiefs that's it? I really need to start waiting for sales.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:48
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That's the final goal of the second zone, to be fair. I can see why someone would be wary of the game at full price but it definitely encourages general loving around more than some other sandbox games, as the Nemesis system keeps mixing things up a chunk and the runes nudge you towards pushing orc groups to become tougher and stronger. All the collectibles, etc, will take a bit of time as well but I know they're not for everyone. If you rush to the end then you're missing out a lot as the 'campaign' is more a glorified tutorial than anything.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:50
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