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mcmagic posted:They don't need Bush's Hispanic vote to win though. They could easily just run up the white vote on turnout alone and win Ohio and Florida which is enough to win. Those demographic arguments aren't nearly iron clad. If every single of those states goes Republican in 2016, Clinton would still win.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Oh poo poo, I forgot about the "blacks will riot if Obama loses" talking point. Reminder that at Ole Miss the white kids did riot in protest when Obama won
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Even better, 2012 was even more of a laugher than '08 and Romney out performed McCain among White voters in each of the states he mentioned. It's a really strange, not actually supported in fact, argument he's trying to make. Especially since the actual data tends to suggest Hillary will do slightly better among Whites (particularly White women) than Obama did and its reasonable to assume that she will under-perform him among black voters (though not terribly much so) and likely do as well or better with Hispanic voters. Like, denying that Democrats have a natural demographic advantage in Presidential year elections is some pretty fantastic mental gymnastics. BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 19:34
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Fried Chicken posted:Reminder that at Ole Miss the white kids did riot in protest when Obama won Can you imagine what the next four (eight) years are gonna be like for MRAs if Hillary wins?
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Can you imagine what the next four (eight) years are gonna be like for MRAs if Hillary wins? Sexless, I imagine
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mcmagic posted:They don't need Bush's Hispanic vote to win though. They could easily just run up the white vote on turnout alone and win Ohio and Florida which is enough to win. Those demographic arguments aren't nearly iron clad. Ah yes Florida; a state where you don't need the Hispanic vote to win and why Romney took it in 2012. It's also definitely not a state where the Hispanic population is growing and offsetting the white population more and more every year. I'm sure the GOP will capture the 70 plus percent of the white vote there that they'd need to win without massive voter suppression in minority communities. Maybe the GOP can just restrict voting hours and locations even more than they did last time.
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icantfindaname posted:Sexless, I imagine I'd figure that would be a given.
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But here, let me help you McMagic... the "swing states" in '16 that Republicans absolutely have to win: New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, and Florida (Dems can lose Ohio and Virginia, and still win) all have huge minority populations. Obama lost the white vote in each of those states in '12 and still won them. The calculus for a Republican victory is so tight that they have to literally win every real swing state to win.
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icantfindaname posted:Sexless, I imagine They probably shouldn't breed anyway.
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mcmagic posted:They don't need Bush's Hispanic vote to win though. They could easily just run up the white vote on turnout alone and win Ohio and Florida which is enough to win. Those demographic arguments aren't nearly iron clad.
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JT Jag posted:If "running up the white vote" couldn't win the Republicans the White House against Obama, it definitely won't work against a white person But what about these "trust" numbers from a single poll I have right here?
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Democrats need to face the facts that if Clinton loses New York, California, and Illinois, she's going to have trouble winning the election.
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borkencode posted:Democrats need to face the facts that if Clinton looses New York, California, and Illinois, she's going to have trouble winning the election. white liberals on somethingawful.com were polled and they hold a dim view of Hillary, clearly this bodes poorly for her in liberal states like ny, cal, and illinois
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The white male vote would have to probably top 70% for Generic Republican 2016 for running up the score to even matter, and there's no reason to think white flight from the Democratic Party will ever top 2012.
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Rick Perry is giving a speech in DC today. It is titled "Defending Conservatism Against the Cancer of Trump-ism" Gosh, I wonder what it will be about?
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borkencode posted:Democrats need to face the facts that if Clinton loses New York, California, and Illinois, she's going to have trouble winning the election. Best joke in the thread so far. Fried Chicken posted:Rick Perry is giving a speech in DC today. It is titled "Defending Conservatism Against the Cancer of Trump-ism" I wonder what Trump's going to do to get even with Perry. Flaming dog poo poo on his front steps? Order him a thousand pizzas?
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Fried Chicken posted:Rick Perry is giving a speech in DC today. It is titled "Defending Conservatism Against the Cancer of Trump-ism" Rick Perry saying things that make sense "Republicans need to admit that black people are unfairly treated by the criminal justice system." Is the most Bizarre loving thing.
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Fried Chicken posted:Rick Perry is giving a speech in DC today. It is titled "Defending Conservatism Against the Cancer of Trump-ism" is trump-ism the samething as liberalism ?
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Fried Chicken posted:Rick Perry is giving a speech in DC today. It is titled "Defending Conservatism Against the Cancer of Trump-ism" Someone wants Trump to talk about him.
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Gravel Gravy posted:Someone wants Trump to talk about him. Also your phone number
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:I wonder what Trump's going to do to get even with Perry. Flaming dog poo poo on his front steps? Order him a thousand pizzas? Perry's speech is going to get DDOS'ed
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:It's a pretty good way to get your name in the news. It certainly made Graham relevant again for about 15 minutes.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Rick Perry saying things that make sense "Republicans need to admit that black people are unfairly treated by the criminal justice system." Is the most Bizarre loving thing. tbf Rick Perry has probably executed more latinos than black people.
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PupsOfWar posted:tbf Rick Perry has probably executed more latinos than black people. 
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"He offers a barking carnival act that can be best described as Trumpism: a mix of demagoguery, mean-spiritedness and nonsense" Hey check it out, Perry found someone who knows how to use words longer than 2 syllables to write for him Seriously though, this is a move from treating this as entertainment to treating it as politics. So congrats Donald, they are starting to take you seriously. Now let's see how long this lasts; if this were Cruz or Walker I suspect it would hit harder than coming from a guy who grasping at straws because he is probably being bumped out of the debate by Trump
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Also mods please change my name to Barking Carnival Act tia
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PupsOfWar posted:tbf Rick Perry has probably executed more latinos than black people. Actually according to the Texas Department of Criminal Justice There are more black death row offenders than either whites or hispanics atm, which are both roughly tied. Chelb fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Fried Chicken posted:Also mods please change my name to Barking Carnival Act tia Changing your name won't stop those articles of impeachment, fyi.
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Fried Chicken posted:Also mods please change my name to Barking Carnival Act tia That's been a recurring theme this cycle. It already feels like so many moons ago that Rep. Peter King (R-NY) dismissed Ted Cruz as a "carnival barker."
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:I wonder what Trump's going to do to get even with Perry. Flaming dog poo poo on his front steps? Order him a thousand pizzas? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spite_house (except it's a skyscraper with his name on it).
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How to destroy your cell phone with Sen. Lindsey Graham Say this for him, senator graham has always had a sense of humor
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Fried Chicken posted:How to destroy your cell phone with Sen. Lindsey Graham Funny but I don't like Graham enough to spread his video like he hopes people will.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Can you imagine what the next four (eight) years are gonna be like for MRAs if Hillary wins? I'm an MRA and I don't think Hillary in the white house would have any negative effect on the movement.
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Per today's briefing the White House is in final stages of drafting a plan to close Gitmo. It is already almost empty, these would be the last and the facility itself
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Jewel Repetition posted:I'm an MRA ban this sick filth.
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Jewel Repetition posted:I'm an MRA and I don't think Hillary in the white house would have any negative effect on the movement.
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Fried Chicken posted:Rick Perry is giving a speech in DC today. It is titled "Defending Conservatism Against the Cancer of Trump-ism" That glasses actually do make you learn gooder, you don't mess with Texas, and um uh, what's the third one there... oops.
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Fried Chicken posted:Per today's briefing the White House is in final stages of drafting a plan to close Gitmo. It is already almost empty, these would be the last and the facility itself Took 7 years, but that'd be a campaign promise kept, wouldn't it?
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NY just approved $15/hr minimum wage for fast food workers!!!... ...and employers must comply by 2021 
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Alter Ego posted:Took 7 years, but that'd be a campaign promise kept, wouldn't it? If he can do it, yeah. I do appreciate that when he got blocked at closing it by congress he has kept chipping away at it, but the place going away for good is an important and necessary thin IMO. If nothing else I don't want to see how quickly Bush repopulate sit if a black swan happens and he wins.
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