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Hahaha Oates is a moron. I can't remember, did Oates ever play with Hasek? Guy would have had a stroke or something seeing him play goal.
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Gunjin posted:The problem is Holtby was already effective, his career numbers are pretty good, and until Oates tried to force the change this season they were even better: To add to this, Holtby was significantly better to end the season when he reverted back to his original aggressive style. Even with his lovely start, he finished with a .930 even strength save percentage, good for 8th out of 25 goalies who played 41+ games, tied with Lundqvist.
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It seems Oates is a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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romanowski posted:yay we don't have to blame kolzig But we still get to blame our still employed coach.
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burf posted:Canada's WC roster so far: No Evander Kane? 
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@SportsnetSpec posted:Media in VAN on Torts alert after meetings with Linden. Rumblings unconfirmed that a decision on his employment could come soon. 
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Oh my god please Linden, please fire Torts
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Linden presser. "We will not fire Torts..." "...out of a cannon. We'll still fire him though..."  "...with a catapult!" Commence the 2014 Vancouver celebration riots.
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I don't want vancouver to fire tortarella because I'm scared that the capitals will decide that his no-loving-around attitude is precisely what they've been missing this whole time
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Torts ending up in DC is one of my biggest fears, but I don't think it will happen. I honestly think if he's let go it's going to take a few years in a TV studio or as an assistant or AHL/overseas coach before Torts gets another shot at an NHL head job (if he ever does).
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Gunjin posted:Torts ending up in DC is one of my biggest fears, but I don't think it will happen. I honestly think if he's let go it's going to take a few years in a TV studio or as an assistant or AHL/overseas coach before Torts gets another shot at an NHL head job (if he ever does). Vancouver had positive possession and were unlucky, yet I'd still agree on not bringing in Tortorella. St. Louis Blues prospect Jake Allen wins Goalie of the Year in the AHL.
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romanowski posted:I don't want vancouver to fire tortarella because I'm scared that the capitals will decide that his no-loving-around attitude is precisely what they've been missing this whole time to be fair torts would be an improvement over Oates The bar is, uh, kinda low there, though
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Heaf posted:Vancouver had positive possession and were unlucky, yet I'd still agree on not bringing in Tortorella. Early in the year the Canucks were their regular selves. The Sedins were PPG, the defence was solid, goaltending was good and the bottom six wasn't a huge liability. The problem was that the big three in the twins and Kesler got exhausted and collapsed down the stretch, primarily due to a bunch of nagging injuries. I seem to recall early on that the team was close to the top of the league in possession stats, but they sagged over the latter half of the year and were merely average. Torts would be a great coach if seasons were 40 games long, but he overworks his top guys, openly despises his 4th line and never practices so little problems that might easily be corrected get magnified. He wasn't completely horrible, he got a lot out of our top guys at the beginning of the year and was a great interview. As the team struggled he became a lightning rod for criticism (along with Gillis) and I don't think he'll ever be able to escape the negative stigma he created. It's probably for the best to let him go and hire some unknown to takeover. No matter who the GM and coach are, this is Linden's team now and he'll be forever linked to its success or failure. If he's smart he'll hire a couple of good at their job nobodies to take the other roles so that he can use his bank of good grace to absorb any initial growing pains.
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Adam Oates wants his team to play homeopathic offense, chiropractic defense, and voodoo magic in the locker room.
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I'm interested in what MacT does this summer. Is it the time to flip one of their young forwards for a d, or does he hope ekblad falls to them and fulfills his Nurse-Ekblad fantasy while tanking another season?
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romanowski posted:I don't want vancouver to fire tortarella because I'm scared that the capitals will decide that his no-loving-around attitude is precisely what they've been missing this whole time This but for Nashville.
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The Dirty Burger posted:I'm interested in what MacT does this summer. Is it the time to flip one of their young forwards for a d, or does he hope ekblad falls to them and fulfills his Nurse-Ekblad fantasy while tanking another season? Unfortunately, the Oilers will probably be bad enough to end up with one of Hanafin or Kylington in next year's draft. They'll get their premier defenseman sooner or later
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whatis posted:Unfortunately, the Oilers will probably be bad enough to end up with one of Hanafin or Kylington in next year's draft. They'll get their premier defenseman sooner or later Tough to take them if they're also taking McDavid
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They're gonna have lots of poo poo-competition next year though. Buffalo (x2 if the Islanders defer their 1st rounder), Vancouver, Nashville, Calgary...a couple surprise teams or two
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McDavid will save the Canucks! (who am I kidding we'll pick 3rd  )
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Rutkowski posted:Linden presser. Jokes on you, that's how Vancouver does urban renewal
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Oates saying "he made two saves I didn't like" out-stupids anything else I've heard him say and that's pretty steep to say
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I love melnyk using the Hemsky trade as him showing he's "willing to spend" Ignoring that to make the trade he had to waive Conacher, loan Corvo to another AHL team and make the Oilers retain salary
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communist kangaroo posted:*checks adam oates' employment status* I am considering purchasing isadamoatesstillemployed.com or hasadamoatesbeenfiredyet.com, not sure which tho
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Okay here's a list of coaches NHL Peter LaViolette-last coached the Flyers to the playoffs missed playoffs once, was on the US Olympic staff and will coach the US Worlds Barry Trotz- Only coach in Nashville history, made expansion team perennial playoff team Claude Noel- Coached the Jets and got fired Kevin Dineen- Coached the Florida Panthers, was fired, guided Canadian Women to Olympic Gold Ron Rolston- ahaha this guy's going back to the AHL if he's lucky Phil Housley- Predators assistant coach won Gold in 2013 with US World Junior squad I don't know any other assistants... AHL Willie Desjardins- Texas Stars HC has lead the team to two straight seasons as Western Conference regular season champions and best record in AHL this year, 12-13 Coach of the Year Jeff Blashill- Lead Grand Rapids to the Calder Cup Championship in 2013, contention for 2 division titles, reigning coach of the year Brad Larsen- Lead his Springfield Falcons to two consecutive division titles, young at 37 John Hynes- WBS Pens head coach has always had team in playoffs, would join a coaching tree including Bylsma,Todd Richards, Therrien Luke Richardson- Binghamton Senators Coach has team contending again for a division title Keith McCambridge- IceCaps coach started strong in 11-12 and has rebounded from poor second season with impressive third
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As a Leafs fan, having the goalies be Reimer/Scrivens is pretty funny.
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Pretty sure thats Scrivens/Reimer mate. He had that one good game and he plays for Kevin Lowe's team.
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my team is bad because the flyers aren't going to win in MSG in the next decade
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Hand Knit posted:As a Leafs fan, having the goalies be Reimer/Scrivens is pretty funny. Gallows humor. On the subject of Torts: gently caress Torts. The best possible interpretation of his career would read, "he is a 50/50 shot of either the playoffs, or your team is a steaming burrito dump". A kind person would attribute the success rate to intent, rather than the statistical noise associated with a thousand howling baboons and their type writers.
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Watching the way all these playoff teams are producing goals... really reinforces just how terrible the Devils were at doing it this season.
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Can someone explain to me why the Oilers are a bad team?
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Admiral Goodenough posted:Can someone explain to me why the Oilers are a bad team? Management. 100% piss poor GMing and lovely management.
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Admiral Goodenough posted:Can someone explain to me why the Oilers are a bad team? Management and coaching staff are former Oilers players who played without helmets. No incentive to be better b/c the owner has a big boner for the 80s.
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Admiral Goodenough posted:Can someone explain to me why the Oilers are a bad team? Bad management, bad coaching, bad player development, no defense, and (up until the second half of this year) terrible goaltending. But Veskit is right, bad management is the most egregious problem
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